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Terrigal	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:17:00 - [1] Take a pat on the back CCP as youve finally broken the camels back. It is no longer worth mining at all now it used to be well sorta worth now youve absolutely decimated it. Armaggedons in Jita 32 million, I can understand those who use mining marco's now as its the only way you can make it profitable. CCP how about banning the remaining macro miners then you can totally destroy eve as we know it. I'm so glad there's a heap of new mmo's coming out soon cause CCP ive had it with you lot.
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar Conflagration.	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:28:00 - [2] Oh no! He is going to leave! How exactly removing macro miners would destroy EVE as we know it?
Jay Wareth Amici Noctis	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Terrigal Take a pat on the back CCP as youve finally broken the camels back. It is no longer worth mining at all now it used to be well sorta worth now youve absolutely decimated it. Armaggedons in Jita 32 million, I can understand those who use mining marco's now as its the only way you can make it profitable. CCP how about banning the remaining macro miners then you can totally destroy eve as we know it. I'm so glad there's a heap of new mmo's coming out soon cause CCP ive had it with you lot. Your stuffs, can I haz?
Terrigal	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Oh no! He is going to leave! How exactly removing macro miners would destroy EVE as we know it? Well work it out as its now only profitable to mine if your a macro if your not why bother. And Jay Pm me in game and i'll tell you where to go.
Wyke Mossari Gallente Staner Industries	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:46:00 - [5] Wrong, the destruction of mining as a profession is down to massive over production from because of years of buffing and macro miners. Insurance has been propping up that dead horse for years. You should be demanding... 1) Unholy Rage II. 2) A huge mineral sink.
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:48:00 - [6] i am truley sorry for your lots Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
Hans Krieger	Posted - 2010.06.18 06:14:00 - [7] i hear the NC will be wanting LOTS of minerals now :P
waylander Dakeyras	Posted - 2010.06.18 06:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Hans Krieger i hear the NC will be wanting LOTS of minerals now :P Nah, for some reason it seems NC got some of their ships back... make of it what you will but it seems the lagdeath reimb rules are applied differently for NC to the rest of the population.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.18 09:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Terrigal Take a pat on the back CCP as youve finally broken the camels back. It is no longer worth mining at all now it used to be well sorta worth now youve absolutely decimated it. Armaggedons in Jita 32 million, I can understand those who use mining marco's now as its the only way you can make it profitable. CCP how about banning the remaining macro miners then you can totally destroy eve as we know it. I'm so glad there's a heap of new mmo's coming out soon cause CCP ive had it with you lot. Not quite sure what you mean, mining is still quite profitable to me. Apply \| Sigs
Qoi New Eden Warriors	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:02:00 - [10] In before Akita T "Mining is for spongeheads anyway" post.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Qoi In before Akita T "Mining is for spongeheads anyway" post. Please point out on doll where Mr. Akita T. touched you. /looks at all those skill points put into mining Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:50:00 - [12] Originally by: Qoi In before Akita T "Mining is for spongeheads anyway" post. Will you settle for a Helicity "Did I hear macro miners?" post?
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:53:00 - [13] The mining pie is a lie ! _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Dred 'Morte New European Regiment Blade.	Posted - 2010.06.18 11:22:00 - [14] Let me see if I understand this right. You have ships, equipment, skills and implants that provide you the ability to mine a lot more than it used to be possible, at least twice as much to my knowledge. You have minerals like tritanium worth 2 or 3 times as much as they used to be. You have battleship sized ships priced at very low levels. Your life is easier than ever. You complain. Does not compute.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Dred 'Morte You have minerals like tritanium worth 2 or 3 times as much as they used to be. You sure? Trit was once around 4.05 its now down around 2.3.....
Natalie Caladan Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:12:00 - [16] Edited by: Natalie Caladan on 18/06/2010 12:16:42 What about: Just ban the macro miners -> less supply/same demand will make prices rise -> more profit for miners and manufacturing. So just ban the macro miners and leave the insurance nerf as it is. Problem solved. CCP?
CAPSLOCKBROKE Caldari Independent Navy Reserve OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:17:00 - [17] Originally by: Serpents smile Originally by: Dred 'Morte You have minerals like tritanium worth 2 or 3 times as much as they used to be. You sure? Trit was once around 4.05 its now down around 2.3..... lol I'm buying it at 1.20 ISK where I live and have already bought over 8 million in the last few days. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAPSLOCK, BECAUSE SOMETIMES REGULAR FONT JUST, ISN'T, GOOD ENOUGH.
Sinister Mephisto	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:21:00 - [18] CCP won't ban macro users or scammers as they would be losing money from the loss of those accounts. Many people present evidence of people who macro, or are at least very likely too, and nothing is ever done. Unholy Rage, sadly, was likely just for show
Freemunt Jones	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:27:00 - [19] You can mine in this game?
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:35:00 - [20] Originally by: Freemunt Jones You can mine in this game? Confirming you can do this, sitting in a Hulk Apply \| Sigs
Opertone Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:35:00 - [21] Edited by: Opertone on 18/06/2010 12:37:11 Macro mining, makes non macro mining less profitable and non competitive. Macro mining is using automated bots, unmanned game interaction. Either modify eve to not work with MACRO scripts by forcing some protected environment mode or make bot behavior less likely to succeed without player interaction. A normal player can not mine more than 2 hours straight. His profits need to be higher or equal to other activities, simply a) to motivate, b) give the opportunity for mining to become more challenging. First, not all asteroid should contain the same amount of OREs, it should be randomly distributed still. Only roid scanner and good scanning skills would give estimates on where ORE (mineral rich substance) actually is. Mining barren rocks would become income less activity. Searching for good asteroids would require players to actively seek roids. Asteroid belts should be system wide, moving and drifting as suggested previously. Probing space for hidden roid fields (which drift across galaxy anyway) and luck would be required to find Mineral Rich asteroids. Regular belts should contain more dust than substance. Deep core mining skills and lasers should be required to get to the core of the rock. Thus challenging the players to bring different equipment to get extra profits. Random Minerals spawning in space should be cut down, refining should take time, refining things such as Modules, Drone alloys should take extra time. It will make industry exciting, planned activity rather than income less boring macro bot routine.
Lifelongnoob Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn Blood Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.18 14:17:00 - [22] Edited by: Lifelongnoob on 18/06/2010 14:17:39 i mine ore often i can build capitals mining then building capitals makes me isk i do it when im relaxing as its easy... just lock, mine until rock pops, then drag into orca and when full haul back... simple i mine ice when my pos screams at me or i need jump drive fuel. the rest of the time im either ratting or mission running... occasionally i die horribly in a poor attempt to pvp or when the lag monster eats my ship and my fleet members too :P
Gistatis Tribunus The Unknown Bar and Pub	Posted - 2010.06.18 14:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Dred 'Morte Let me see if I understand this right. You have ships, equipment, skills and implants that provide you the ability to mine a lot more than it used to be possible, at least twice as much to my knowledge. You have minerals like tritanium worth 2 or 3 times as much as they used to be. You have battleship sized ships priced at very low levels. Your life is easier than ever. You complain. Does not compute. You have to take into consideration that this is EVE Online though, and as a result, people will whine about everything no matter how illogical their whining is. Time Flux Detected You are going too fast! Wait five minutes and try again.
Lightningshade Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2010.06.18 16:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Sinister Mephisto CCP won't ban macro users or scammers as they would be losing money from the loss of those accounts. Many people present evidence of people who macro, or are at least very likely too, and nothing is ever done. Unholy Rage, sadly, was likely just for show The fact you group macro users and scammers together, shows that you have the general intelligence of a marauding flip-flop.
Dred 'Morte New European Regiment Blade.	Posted - 2010.06.18 17:35:00 - [25] Originally by: Serpents smile Originally by: Dred 'Morte You have minerals like tritanium worth 2 or 3 times as much as they used to be. You sure? Trit was once around 4.05 its now down around 2.3..... Back in 2003 trit was 1 isk, pye 2isk... megacyte reached a historical high of about 10 to 20K isk IIRC. I stand correct. You talk of "not profitable" is bull. The only thing that goes into mining is time, unless, I think (I don't mine) you use those tech 2 crystals. There's no such thing as unprofitable. You always mine something, you will always be able to sell it for a price. Not being able to turn of a profit is like, me buying a ship to do some leet plexing and then loosing the ship before I make more than it cost. But that's not macroers fault, that's my fault for being a looser.
Messoroz	Posted - 2010.06.18 17:41:00 - [26] Don't worry, Hulkageddon III is coming, it'll fix the mining profession some bit.
centurion zulu Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.06.18 18:09:00 - [27] Edited by: centurion zulu on 18/06/2010 18:11:27 What we need is another good all out eve fight. North vs. South whatever. Best thing To cure all the crying about poor prices etc. It's all about supply and demand. This whole game revolves around ships and mods, no matter what you do in it.
1Ekrid1	Posted - 2010.06.18 18:15:00 - [28] Ill take responsibility for this. he saw my awesomee expose thread about how insurance was an artifical price cap on ships, and as ships are made fo minerals, it puts anautomatic price cap on minerals as well, in the ratio that the minerals are needed to make the ship. So in summation, my threadnaught is what brought him to his senses and why he posted his concern. yay me! There's 1, repeat 1, frigate in the T1 lineup designed to be a suicide tackler. the rest are for COMBAT. so don't tell me to tackle when I'm in a combat T1 frig. OR tell CCP to fix their mess.
Kuar Z'thain Amok. Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.18 20:27:00 - [29] Originally by: Lightningshade Originally by: Sinister Mephisto CCP won't ban macro users or scammers as they would be losing money from the loss of those accounts. Many people present evidence of people who macro, or are at least very likely too, and nothing is ever done. Unholy Rage, sadly, was likely just for show The fact you group macro users and scammers together, shows that you have the general intelligence of a marauding flip-flop. Glad I wasn't the only one that caught it.
Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.06.18 22:24:00 - [30] yeah CCP how about making mining profitable again?

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