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Beachura
Helghan Empiral Armada Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:13:00 -
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Hi guys, so im making a few hundred mil isk a day running anoms + ded's at the minute. I'd like to get into Mag and Radar sites and want advice on everything I need to know. I have good scanning skills and want some advice including how much money I could be making out of these
Thanks guys!
(If anyone wants to help me with my skills, getting me started in hacking / archaeology etc : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Beachura) |

Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:29:00 -
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Warp to it, shoot stuff, hack cans. Theyre the same as anoms effectively. |

Faulx
Brother Fox Corp
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Posted - 2012.07.18 07:02:00 -
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The exploration pages would probably be quite useful to you: List of All W-Space Systems Wormhole Interconnections Cosmic Signatures Cosmic Anomalies DED Complexes Unrated Complexes Gravimetric Sites Ladar Sites Magnetometric Sites Radar Sites Base Signature Strength (advanced scanning)
There's still some holes in the information, but it will definitely get you started.
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:25:00 -
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mfw 'Magometric'
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Rastin Crysknife
The Nommo
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Posted - 2012.07.18 11:11:00 -
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The main point to note about radar and mag sites is that they are about a class of difficulty higher than the anomalies, so unless you can handle an anomaly in a class of wormhole at least 1 higher than where the signature is, it's best to stay clear. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.18 15:29:00 -
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Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Beachura
Invitation
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:06:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.
I beg your pardon? I have been a member of the eve online community for nearly six years and I am asking for some assistance on one of the few issues that I am grey on.
Shut, the, **** up. Unhelpful idiot. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.22 21:14:00 -
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Beachura wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything. I beg your pardon? I have been a member of the eve online community for nearly six years and I am asking for some assistance on one of the few issues that I am grey on. Shut, the, **** up. Unhelpful idiot.
6 years in the eve community and you still come onto these forums and ask dumb questions that take 10-15 minutes of research and data collection.
All can be found and worked out using EFT, evewiki, evesurvival and goonwiki.
But nah you would rather come on here and expect everyone to do it for you.
Also nice mail you sent me, I like how much you wanted the attention. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.23 01:17:00 -
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for w-space mag/radar sig sites you need to (usually): - Find the site; - Kill the sleeper rats (in some C5 IIRC you can part clear the rats and then open the cans); - Salvage and loot the wrecks; - Open the cans and loot their contents.
Finding the site.
Plain old scanning. they are usually the smallest / weakest sites in the w-system so often need decent scan skills to locate and bookmark.
Clearing the sleepers.
These sites are tougher than the toughest anom for whatever class of w-system you're in. So if you cannot clear the toughest anom you're not likely to be able to clear the mag/radar sites. I use tengu for this (C2-C5) ... but lots of other ship types are ok.
Salvage / loot the wrecks.
I always keep a cloaky scout on grid ... to make 100% sure the site doesn't depsawn when I warp off to swap ships. I use a plain old noctis for this.
Open and loot the cans.
I use dedicated hurricanes for this. Plenty of cargo space and can run multiple can-opening modules. They're very quick for the job, because of the multiple modules and dedicated rigs ... but probably not worth it unless you're running your own resident system. Sometimes, if I have hostiles hassling me, I will use a multifunction can-opener covops frigate. Not as quick but safer to use when evil doers are in the site.
We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.23 19:47:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.
Your alliance earned a lot of respect with your ATX performance. Try not to go **** it all away by acting like a complete ******* moron on the forums, would you? |

Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
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Posted - 2012.07.24 02:40:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Beachura wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything. I beg your pardon? I have been a member of the eve online community for nearly six years and I am asking for some assistance on one of the few issues that I am grey on. Shut, the, **** up. Unhelpful idiot. 6 years in the eve community and you still come onto these forums and ask dumb questions that take 10-15 minutes of research and data collection. All can be found and worked out using EFT, evewiki, evesurvival and goonwiki. But nah you would rather come on here and expect everyone to do it for you. Also nice mail you sent me, I like how much you wanted the attention.
^this...
if youre too lazy to spend 10min on google, why should people with sometimes years of experience assist you in your incompetence...
WH veterans WILL give you good information if you can show that you are actually trying to figure things out and ask good questions. on the other hand, blanket questions that equate to "im lazy/scared, spoon feed me to make things easier" will get you mocked or ignored.
Quote:I always keep a cloaky scout on grid ... to make 100% sure the site doesn't depsawn when I warp off to swap ships. I use a plain old noctis for this.
^cloaked ship no longer hold sites open. |

Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
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Posted - 2012.07.24 02:41:00 -
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D-D-D-Double Post!!!! |

Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Talocan United
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Posted - 2012.07.24 03:04:00 -
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The info is out there. Have you considered just doing a quick search? It takes about 2 minutes to google a site, what you'll find inside, how many ships you'll need to clear it, and no one will insult you. Wormhole space isn't about "I'm new please halp ", it's about taking risks, the reward it brings for doing something risky, and the fun. By coming here and asking, you show that you have no respect for how we do things.
Maybe you should work for it. All I'm saying. |

Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.07.24 03:12:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote: ^cloaked ship no longer hold sites open.
Ahhh yes, good point, thanks.
I do remember reading that somewhere, but haven't been running any w-space sites since then. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Zicon Shak'ra
Vacuo Anomalia
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Posted - 2012.07.24 15:00:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploration_guide
Googling is difficult now, apparently. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.26 10:28:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything. Your alliance earned a lot of respect with your ATX performance. Try not to go **** it all away by acting like a complete ******* moron on the forums, would you?
As if I give a **** about respect m8 and I always shitpost, always have.
Technically my post was what most people where thinking, not my fault I am harsh and right to the point.
Also know how I learned how to do mag/radars? I flew a ship into them to see what would happen, same day I had perfected fits for both sites. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Mister Tuggles
Faceless Men
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Posted - 2012.07.26 11:13:00 -
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Beachura wrote:Hi guys, so im making a few hundred mil isk a day running anoms + ded's at the minute. I'd like to get into Mag and Radar sites and want advice on everything I need to know. I have good scanning skills and want some advice including how much money I could be making out of these Thanks guys! (If anyone wants to help me with my skills, getting me started in hacking / archaeology etc : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Beachura)
The isk you make is totally random like all of WH, but you can make a pretty decent amount of isk from them if only just from the salvage. You need to have hacking and analyzing at 5 or it will take you for fricking ever to open things up.
You also need to be able to clear the site, which as someone said, they are usally 1 class higher in difficulty.
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Coolsmoke
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.26 16:46:00 -
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You won't beat the "few hundred mil isk a day" you mentioned until you're able to take on Mags & Radars in C3 systems. C1&C2 will give you a few of the valuable Melted Nanoribbons (from salvage) and Caldari Decryptors (from Radar cans).
But the real can loot starts dropping from C3 sites - particularly the Mag sites which can be worth 150-250mil including "Malfunctioning" relics and Hull Sections. Sleepers in C3 sites neut heavily in the last waves.
To "safely" run C3 sites solo, you need an HML Tengu with an 800-900dps tank, 65% cap stability and good missile support skills. Something like this:
[Tengu, T2 C4 solo] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Domination EM Ward Field Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
DPS isn't fabulous, but you can clear a C3 Mag site in about 35 mins with this. The main dictum in solo-fighting Sleepers is: Tank then Gank. Tank = cap tank and dps tank.
Play with that fit (which is reasonably cheap apart from the T2 rigs). But tbh, you're probably better off running C1/2 sites in a Drake first just to get a taste of the mechanics.
Probably a lot more to tell, but I can't think offhand. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
166
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:14:00 -
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Coolsmoke wrote:You won't beat the "few hundred mil isk a day" you mentioned until you're able to take on Mags & Radars in C3 systems. C1&C2 will give you a few of the valuable Melted Nanoribbons (from salvage) and Caldari Decryptors (from Radar cans).
But the real can loot starts dropping from C3 sites - particularly the Mag sites which can be worth 150-250mil including "Malfunctioning" relics and Hull Sections. Sleepers in C3 sites neut heavily in the last waves.
To "safely" run C3 sites solo, you need an HML Tengu with an 800-900dps tank, 65% cap stability and good missile support skills. Something like this:
[Tengu, T2 C4 solo] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Domination EM Ward Field Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
DPS isn't fabulous, but you can clear a C3 Mag site in about 35 mins with this. The main dictum in solo-fighting Sleepers is: Tank then Gank. Tank = cap tank and dps tank.
Play with that fit (which is reasonably cheap apart from the T2 rigs). But tbh, you're probably better off running C1/2 sites in a Drake first just to get a taste of the mechanics.
Probably a lot more to tell, but I can't think offhand.
lol Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Zicon Shak'ra
Vacuo Anomalia
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:33:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Coolsmoke wrote:You won't beat the "few hundred mil isk a day" you mentioned until you're able to take on Mags & Radars in C3 systems. C1&C2 will give you a few of the valuable Melted Nanoribbons (from salvage) and Caldari Decryptors (from Radar cans).
But the real can loot starts dropping from C3 sites - particularly the Mag sites which can be worth 150-250mil including "Malfunctioning" relics and Hull Sections. Sleepers in C3 sites neut heavily in the last waves.
To "safely" run C3 sites solo, you need an HML Tengu with an 800-900dps tank, 65% cap stability and good missile support skills. Something like this:
[Tengu, T2 C4 solo] Fit
DPS isn't fabulous, but you can clear a C3 Mag site in about 35 mins with this. The main dictum in solo-fighting Sleepers is: Tank then Gank. Tank = cap tank and dps tank.
Play with that fit (which is reasonably cheap apart from the T2 rigs). But tbh, you're probably better off running C1/2 sites in a Drake first just to get a taste of the mechanics.
Probably a lot more to tell, but I can't think offhand. lol
"T2 C4 solo" <- Even more lol |

Coolsmoke
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:45:00 -
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Hah yeah, in fact it IS a C4 fit. I used it on SISI to test Sleeper Neuting when it was reintroduced. It solo'd a Frontier Barracks anom and one other I can't remember, but that's all. And it took forever. But no way could it solo a C4 site. |

Zicon Shak'ra
Vacuo Anomalia
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:01:00 -
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Lolokay. |

Keith Planck
Ashton Technologies Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:15:00 -
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Beachura wrote:Hi guys, so im making a few hundred mil isk a day running anoms + ded's at the minute. I'd like to get into Mag and Radar sites and want advice on everything I need to know. I have good scanning skills and want some advice including how much money I could be making out of these Thanks guys! (If anyone wants to help me with my skills, getting me started in hacking / archaeology etc : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Beachura)
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Canabi
Frontier Explorer's League Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:30:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything.
Good lord. What a tw at. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
167
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:52:00 -
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Canabi wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Go and try it and see what happens, stop asking to be ******* spoon fed everything. Good lord. What a tw at.
pft dont like reality go **** hedgehogs
Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:05:00 -
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Coolsmoke is Canabis alt. ITS OBVIOUS!!!. I need something sweet nao... |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2012.07.28 23:04:00 -
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Eve is definately full of dicks. I love threads that are asking for help that recieve replies that don't actually provide any help. Why even insert your useless opinion if it doesn't even help the OP? I mean, you've taken the time to read it, and then more still to actually write a responce, why fill it with unhelpful insults? I assume from the "high-and-mighty" allknowing attitude that you clearly think you've done us all a favour, coming down to our level to laugh at all those lesser. Bet it makes you feel all shiny inside.
Which brings us back to the origional point, eve is full of dicks! The haters are gonna hate. But hey its easy to identify these morons and simply ignore their entire post! Some people aren't even worth acknowledging.
But for the OP, rad sites are generally easier than the mags, which tend to be alot harder. With good reason too, because the mags are the ones that give you the nice and important things needed for T3 production. Definately worth doing them if you can manage it, but they become quite hard to solo from class 3's upwards, with class 4s and above becoming more like a small fleet. Depends what you're flying of course.  |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:52:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Eve is definately full of dicks. I love threads that are asking for help that recieve replies that don't actually provide any help. Why even insert your useless opinion if it doesn't even help the OP? I mean, you've taken the time to read it, and then more still to actually write a responce, why fill it with unhelpful insults?] Because there's different kinds of dicks in EVE. One kind are competent and figure stuff out by themselves or find existing sources of knowledge on the web. The other kind of dicks is too lazy to read and they keep asking everyone they can get a hold of stupid questions all the time so they don't have to invest any work of their own. The first kind are dicks only towards those who deserve it, while the others are just dicks all the time.
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