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John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.20 21:21:00 - [1] Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive: Anti-Slavery Policy The Ishukone-Raata Enforcer Government has placed this public announcement to clear up past misconceptions that have occurred over the past several months after our removal from the Providence Region and ultimately the Deliverance Project. While our organization has never permitted the dishonorable use of slaves we have been seen in the eyes of the community as conducting slavery by association with Amarr organizations, through trade and political backing of sovereign territory. We are here to clarify that Ishukone-Raata operations do not involve itself in the inner-workings of the Amarr political influences anymore, while we conduct trade in there space we do not political back them with their religions claims and beliefs. While we will still assist certain corporations that operate within the Amarr Empire's it will solely be to assist against Piracy, not political enemies of the Empire itself. We will not be forced by either side of the Amarr/Minmitar campaign of war to assist either side militarily, we will however offer our assistance to both sides economical and are more then willing to assist in a humanitarian manner. We at the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive and the Enforcer Government hope this has clarified some things to the New Eden Community, any questions may be directed toward our public COMM Array - IshuNET.
Neu Bastian Minmatar Valklear Guard	Posted - 2010.06.21 20:50:00 - [2] Let me be the first to congratulate the Ishuk-Raata in this step towards Righteousness. Perhaps its time to have a more formal discussions about our organization's relationship. Quote: Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
innot Minmatar Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.06.22 13:14:00 - [3] Edited by: innot on 22/06/2010 13:14:47 Edited by: innot on 22/06/2010 13:14:10 Edited by: innot on 22/06/2010 13:13:42 This announcement is welcomed with open arms. Much respect to RDC and the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Rin Kaeda Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.22 17:37:00 - [4] Mr. Revenent I applaud the strict stance you have taken against support of Slavery. You are indeed a man worth your words.
Maggot Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:50:00 - [5] Sorry to have to point this out but this statement of "anti-slavery" is nothing of the kind. It is clear that you will continue to work with those that embrace slavery. This is unacceptable. You continue to be collaborators until you reject all activity with the amarrian block and their allies.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.22 23:24:00 - [6] I am sure even the pilots of Ushra'Khan conduct trade in Amarr itself with sales of items they receive in Providence many of them may be unknowingly selling, buying, or producing items for Amarrian corporations and other aligned blocks. We conduct the same trade, I don't see how we are aiding the Amarr anymore then such other pilots are. As for "Anti-Slavery" in the term we have strict guidelines to ensure Enforcers of my organization, citizen's of the Caldari State, and merchants do not conduct in the trade/purchase, or transportation of such slaves within State borders. Anyone who is caught is detained and transferred to the proper officials.
Hori To T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2010.06.23 00:08:00 - [7] what about outside state borders?
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.23 08:04:00 - [8] I for one, welcome this step. Please, continue on the path. _______________________ We come for our people!
DeT Resprox Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2010.06.23 08:11:00 - [9] This is excellent news indeed. Hori To does make a valid point - what is your stance in areas outside of those stated? DeT Resprox T.R.I.A.D CEO INGAME CHANNEL: TRIAD AGENCY
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.23 09:12:00 - [10] Music to my ears. The Minmatar perspective towards the practice of slavery must be altered to see that nothing is as easy as life or death. There are many non-Matar working towards the same goals as the inspired Matar spirit; organizations like I-RED are a leading example. ------------------------------------------------
Kade Jeekin Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2010.06.23 09:13:00 - [11] I am in agreement with Maggot. What you have posted is not an anti-slavery policy, just a restatement of the Caldari State's policy on slavery. How has your policy changed from when you suckled up to CVA in Providence? Quote: Kinda'Shujaa - the Ushra'Khan Faction Warfare Detachment
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Kade Jeekin I am in agreement with Maggot. What you have posted is not an anti-slavery policy, just a restatement of the Caldari State's policy on slavery. How has your policy changed from when you suckled up to CVA in Providence? Do you recognize that Ishukone-Raata allowed the freeing of more slaves than most Minmatar 'freedom' fighters are able through their work in Providence? How can you say they are not anti-slavery? They just stated they were, they have shown so in the past, and I believe they will continue to do so. You don't have to kill someone over your disagreements, but I cannot under-exaggerate the desire for blood among many Minmatar... It's an evil that drives many who claim Matar as their home. I had hoped much of the thirst would be quenched with the over-whelming 'victory' in Providence and the on-going proxy war between Osoggur and Otelen, yet it is obvious the Minmatar desire real abolition of slavery. Can you deny others when they present a step towards what we desire? ------------------------------------------------
Gottii Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Gottii on 23/06/2010 21:43:11 Originally by: Eran Mintor Originally by: Kade Jeekin I am in agreement with Maggot. What you have posted is not an anti-slavery policy, just a restatement of the Caldari State's policy on slavery. How has your policy changed from when you suckled up to CVA in Providence? Do you recognize that Ishukone-Raata allowed the freeing of more slaves than most Minmatar 'freedom' fighters are able through their work in Providence? How can you say they are not anti-slavery? They just stated they were, they have shown so in the past, and I believe they will continue to do so. You don't have to kill someone over your disagreements, but I cannot under-exaggerate the desire for blood among many Minmatar... It's an evil that drives many who claim Matar as their home. I had hoped much of the thirst would be quenched with the over-whelming 'victory' in Providence and the on-going proxy war between Osoggur and Otelen, yet it is obvious the Minmatar desire real abolition of slavery. Can you deny others when they present a step towards what we desire? I am glad to see I-RED taking this step. I would have been more impressed had they made this statement before Providence fell, but such is the way of things. However, I find your logic troubling Eran. You would allow a group to free 50 slaves, yet indirectly profit from and fight to keep hundreds more enslaved, and then call that group anti-slaver. They're still slavers, just merely the scope of their crime and their list of victims has changed. Indeed, by this argument, the Empress herself is the greatest anti-slaver out there. She has free billions, who cares she has fought to keep untold billions more in chains? Your Walk has not veered so far into dark places that you're willing to make that claim are you Eran?
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 - [14] I'm not implying anyone's perfect; I simply find the black and white lines that everyone claims to be 'truly there' are non-existent. You will find throughout history that change does not simply happen because of people's desires or inclinations to change; slavery will not end itself through the violence it inspires, but the sacrifices it calls for. You will find that Lady Sarum is just as hypocritical as she is merciful. On one hand she says that slavery is no longer required and frees billions; on the other hand she re-continues "The Reclaiming". Trying to please everyone is impossible, and it is often the unpopular things that bring the most change, but most people don't see much further beyond their noses. While I-RED maintained operations in Providence during CVA's reign of power and profited from the collective space, it is a stubborn attitude that will not accept the good that comes from such interactions. Can you say they're slaver because of their actions, not the biased associations everyone loves to make? We cannot eliminate the Amarr; genocide is not the answer. We cannot force them to drop their practices like they tried to force us centuries ago; we must strengthen ties between all peoples. There are many Amarr inside the Empire who wish to see the same, or similar changes that many Minmatar freedom-fighters do, yet we deny them reason to change if we deny I-RED's sacrifices and accomplishments. Events happen over-night; change does not. ------------------------------------------------
Gottii Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2010.06.23 22:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Eran Mintor I'm not implying anyone's perfect; I simply find the black and white lines that everyone claims to be 'truly there' are non-existent. You will find throughout history that change does not simply happen because of people's desires or inclinations to change; slavery will not end itself through the violence it inspires, but the sacrifices it calls for. You will find that Lady Sarum is just as hypocritical as she is merciful. On one hand she says that slavery is no longer required and frees billions; on the other hand she re-continues "The Reclaiming". Trying to please everyone is impossible, and it is often the unpopular things that bring the most change, but most people don't see much further beyond their noses. While I-RED maintained operations in Providence during CVA's reign of power and profited from the collective space, it is a stubborn attitude that will not accept the good that comes from such interactions. Can you say they're slaver because of their actions, not the biased associations everyone loves to make? We cannot eliminate the Amarr; genocide is not the answer. We cannot force them to drop their practices like they tried to force us centuries ago; we must strengthen ties between all peoples. There are many Amarr inside the Empire who wish to see the same, or similar changes that many Minmatar freedom-fighters do, yet we deny them reason to change if we deny I-RED's sacrifices and accomplishments. Events happen over-night; change does not. Go find a young child of the People in a Holder's estate. I'm sure that child will look up to you and be very respectful, if shes heard stories of the Hero of Ezzara. Tell her that its acceptable that her entire life will be forfeit because there are grey areas, and change is difficult. Tell her that while its unfortunate that she will be a Vitoc addict her entire life, its for the best of everyone that she suffers that fate, because her People must foster ties with her Holder. Tell her its the right thing that she, and everyone she knows and loves, lives this way. Im curious if you could. Your words sound like wisdom, until you're forced to face in the flesh the People you are condemning. I know I will not choose who lives or dies under slavery. Apparently you would. And yes Eran, I say if you fight to defend slavery, and take rewards from slavers for your actions, I will happily call that person a slaver. We are not defined by our beliefs and our words alone. We are defined by our actions. Ultimately, we are what we choose to defend. You knew this once.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 - [16] Harsh words, but I am used to them now. You seem to hear half of what I say, and for that amount I am thankful for some hear nothing. Yes, some people must suffer, in fact all do. Everyone will die. Some people will live happily, some will live solemnly; I cannot say, however, who will or won't, but I could certainly theorize and speculate. I won't because I think we both know that would provide little of value. I have no desire to say anything of the sort to a slave-child, for that does not inspire any action. My previous communication was maybe too realistic and gloomy to deliver the humble hope I had hoped to. The solution to this problem does not necessitate turning a blind-eye to slavery in the effort to end it, nor does it require us to kill the slavers family, friends, and society either. Also, I do not consider myself a 'Hero of Ezzara', but rather a terror in the life of Amarr, and someone who actually worked unknowingly against my own long-standing goals for a long time. It is ironic, sad, and often confusing, but I have hope and that I am thankful for. ------------------------------------------------
Skogen Gump The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.23 22:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Eran Mintor Everyone will die. Most, my brother. Most.
Gottii Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2010.06.23 22:48:00 - [18] Edited by: Gottii on 23/06/2010 22:49:24 Aye Eran, I've heard your words, probably better than you think I have. You look at the people you have saved, by finding compromises and middle ground, by collaborating with those who's actions you hope to change. You look at me and say, "look at the good I have done, for they would not be free had I not done this, and we cant save everyone. Your way leads to comfortable absolutes but little results." And, in truth, you have a point. Its something that haunts me more than you know. But for me, I will point to the people you are giving up on, to the evil you are holding hands with, and say "I will not be an accomplice to that, for if we accept that evil, then we validate its existence. I can not condemn two to save three, not when I have the chance, however slim, to save all five." I can not go to the Ancestors with that on my spirit...Im sorry you will.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.23 23:18:00 - [19] Originally by: DeT Resprox This is excellent news indeed. Hori To does make a valid point - what is your stance in areas outside of those stated? As our officials have learned it is not our place to dictate policy of others outside the influences of the Caldari State and Ishukone itself, we can however control how our Enforcers operate and they will follow the strict guidelines we have put in place even outside the State itself. While we will remain neutral on the matters in the three other Nations of New Eden, thus meaning we wont actively scan and forcibly remove slaves from a Captains vessel outside State borders, but we will always be willing to act as a third party through our affiliation with the Cal-Matari Movement to act as a terminal to re-educate slaves on current affairs in the Caldari State and the Minmatar Republic in efforts to relocate them to proper lifestyles that they choose to have.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:38:00 - [20] A laudable move I-RED, and a smart one.
Azure Skyclad Amarr Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.06.24 19:32:00 - [21] Originally by: John Revenent You have the forked tongue of a politician John. You speak much yet say little. http://ultravixen.co.uk/
Butcher el'Hek	Posted - 2010.06.24 22:50:00 - [22] Warriors of the Ushra'khan I urge you to move away from the headline and read the text of emptiness that follows. Nothing but the words of someone who wishes to continue to profit from anything it can. John Revenent, I spit in your face.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.25 00:45:00 - [23] Originally by: DeT Resprox This is excellent news indeed. Hori To does make a valid point - what is your stance in areas outside of those stated? I did respond to this question, though it would appear with last nights GalNET problems it was removed... So I will attempt to repeat myself on behalf of the Ishukone-Raata Enforcer Government and High Command. We as an organization have learned over our past dealings with the Amarr Empire and loyalist groups, while some did end up to be profitable and some not. The link to slavery has been one trial after another. With this fact we wish to remove ourselves from that light, while we will be offering assistance to Anti-Piracy operations and giving Humanitarian Aid as we do with all four Sovereign entities no matter if they be foe or friend to the Caldari State, unless the organization itself is one of a Pirate Nature. (We will not be assisting in Anti-Piracy Operations in the Providence Region to either aid Ushra-Khan or CVA.) In short.. our Enforcers will never be permitted to conduct slavery, own slaves, or remove slaves from a captains holdings outside the State. As such is a neutral stance that we intend to hold until otherwise notified by Ishukone Corporation. We will remain neutral and out of the way of the Amarr - Minmitar blood fued that rages along there borders, but will remain vigilant to enforce the laws of the Caldari State in regards to Slavery.. and Piracy within the State itself.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.25 07:27:00 - [24] Edited by: Eran Mintor on 25/06/2010 07:36:51 Link to previously lost comms Profit can be made anywhere, it is a matter of how it's used. If you recognized that there will always be crime, wouldn't it be better if those criminals somehow gave back to society with which they took? If profits from trade with the Amarr or weapons-sales are always going to be acquired by someone, it's a matter of what those profits are used on. I think most will see that I-RED and Ishukone's actions speak louder than words. Defending of Providence (and like-wise, Intaki) was more than simply "defense of CVA/ILF" once they had sovereignty and assets in the region. While I am happy to see CVA weakened it makes me sad to see a place of relative peace fragmented and destroyed because of the opportunities it provided to create bridges for social change--opportunities exploited by the Cal-Matar. While Providence was no epitome of social justice, it was a place for a real variety of individuals to co-exist in relative peace; travelers, traders, anti-pirate, and even anti-slaver entities held and defended the space--the sad part was that it was ultimately controlled by slavers, but with the destruction of their power it has left a gap in the desire for a mock-utopia. It is my hope that an organization takes up the daring task to re-establish a cluster of systems to allow all traders and civilians relative security in space-travel, but one that is no-longer controlled by evil but righteousness towards man and justice. To Gotti; Quote: Aye Eran, I've heard your words, probably better than you think I have. You look at the people you have saved, by finding compromises and middle ground, by collaborating with those who's actions you hope to change. You look at me and say, "look at the good I have done, for they would not be free had I not done this, and we cant save everyone. Your way leads to comfortable absolutes but little results." And, in truth, you have a point. Its something that haunts me more than you know. But for me, I will point to the people you are giving up on, to the evil you are holding hands with, and say "I will not be an accomplice to that, for if we accept that evil, then we validate its existence. I can not condemn two to save three, not when I have the chance, however slim, to save all five." I can not go to the Ancestors with that on my spirit...Im sorry you will. I refuse to say I am holding hands with slavers. I don't get along with most of the Amarr militia, and, in fact, have been accused of not doing enough against the Minmatar by their pilots and organizations, as well as being accused of spying, and additionally conflicts between myself and Amarr that has resulted in the death of my own crew. I am hated by all, but my recent time in the Amarr militia is about being close to the few here I have loved and agree that a fight against each-other is undesirable, and change in both nations are needed to permit co-existence. I will take offensive action upon Minmatar militia simply because I disagree with it's leadership--a coup was not possible for a man of my small power; and thus it remains a protest more than anything as that is all I'm capable of at this time. The only offensive actions I was truly interested in was the undoing of my campaign in Amarr space. Now Amarr space has been re-secured...it is strange to say at this time I have little desire to leave but this is because of love and nothing else. However, it is still my desire that all Minmatar are freed, and also that the Republic faces another revolution of leadership. What I accept is that abolition of slavery is not going to be a short path, nor one ended with violence. Few realize this now, but as the death-tolls and poverty continue to rise, and few are freed and little is achieved but genocide of each-other, more will awaken to the call to change our ways of thinking that co-existing with races other than Minmatar is wise.
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.25 08:27:00 - [25] Originally by: John Revenent We will not be assisting in Anti-Piracy Operations in the Providence Region to either aid Ushra-Khan or CVA. In short.. our Enforcers will never be permitted to conduct slavery, own slaves, or remove slaves from a captains holdings outside the State. That is good enough for me. *Let My People Go*
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.25 12:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Maggot Sorry to have to point this out but this statement of "anti-slavery" is nothing of the kind. It is clear that you will continue to work with those that embrace slavery. This is unacceptable. You continue to be collaborators until you reject all activity with the amarrian block and their allies. Hear Him, Hear Him! Originally by: Butcher el'Hek Warriors of the Ushra'khan I urge you to move away from the headline and read the text of emptiness that follows. Nothing but the words of someone who wishes to continue to profit from anything it can. John Revenent, I spit in your face. Hear Him, Hear Him! The Ishuk-Raata may be saying they will not assist the CVA any longer or interfere in Providence but the CVA are hardly the only pro-slavery entity in New Eden and Providence hardly the only region where slavery is transacted. What of the KPV to which I-RED has promised support against 'pirates'? Will I-RED interfere with anti-slavery operations carried out in the Khanid Kingdom or against its paramilitaries in the Khanid Provincial Vanguard? What of the other Amarr loyalist entities to which I-RED has friendly relations? What of slavery in the regions of the Amarr Empire other than the Khanid Kingdom? No mention of them. Where is the repudiation of slavery? Where is the absolute condemnation of it and all who practice it? We still get mealy-mouthed evasions and statements full of loopholes from Ishuk-Raata. Perhaps what they say will save them from the fire and sword that the Ushra'Khan would bring against them as outright slavers. The Ushra'Khan warriors are noble and they may choose the path of forebearance. But I do urge them to be vigilant in this case. Those who have, by their free admission, indulged in support for slavery from the profit motive in the past and who give no sign of a moral opposition to slavery, indeed refuse to state such an opposition, should be watched carefully lest they slip into their old ways once again. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.25 13:41:00 - [27] Hear me. Originally by: The Cosmopolite The Ishuk-Raata may be saying they will not assist the CVA any longer or interfere in Providence but the CVA are hardly the only pro-slavery entity in New Eden and Providence hardly the only region where slavery is transacted. And IRED are hardly the only ones operating out of those regions and making transactions there. In fact, most capsuleers have some connections to Amarrian businesses. The null-sec alliances you ally yourselves with, and the likely-hood Star Fraction members do business in areas where slavery is legal is proof that nobody can claim innocence. There are other actions organizations against Amarr that inspire further harm against freedom fighters such as terrorist bombings--these bombings do nothing but inspire vengeance in Amarrian citizens and soldiers, amplifying the hate. Quote: What of the KPV to which I-RED has promised support against 'pirates'? Will I-RED interfere with anti-slavery operations carried out in the Khanid Kingdom or against its paramilitaries in the Khanid Provincial Vanguard? This question was already answered when John said that he is not going to interfere in the slave-trade outside of State borders as he has no authority to, except perhaps in Ishukone area's and IRED places of sovereignty. It's quite ironic to hear someone who is against forced beliefs insist that IRED should force their will upon others. KPV has a problem with pirates, which plague people everywhere across New Eden and pose problems against the abolition of slavery; Blood Raiders, Sansha, Cartel, and Guristas are all equal threats to what anti-slavers fight for and have largely gone ignored with the frenzy in the militia wars and CVA/U'K conflict. Though many pirates may be destroying slave convoys, they are far from "saving" them when they are killed or 'salvaged', especially when dealing with Sansha, Cartel, and Blooder Raiders. Quote: What of the other Amarr loyalist entities to which I-RED has friendly relations? What of slavery in the regions of the Amarr Empire other than the Khanid Kingdom? No mention of them. Where is the repudiation of slavery? Where is the absolute condemnation of it and all who practice it? Why is that necessary? You're close-mindedness has denied the ability to change. Your inability to accept that Amarrian loyalists, and the Empire can change is evidence of such. People change; how many recruits have you received who were once Amarr loyalists? And likewise, I know many Amarrians who are anti-slavery. Quite simply, your propaganda is getting old and tiresome. Quote: We still get mealy-mouthed evasions and statements full of loopholes from Ishuk-Raata. Perhaps what they say will save them from the fire and sword that the Ushra'Khan would bring against them as outright slavers. The Ushra'Khan warriors are noble and they may choose the path of forebearance. But I do urge them to be vigilant in this case. Those who have, by their free admission, indulged in support for slavery from the profit motive in the past and who give no sign of a moral opposition to slavery, indeed refuse to state such an opposition, should be watched carefully lest they slip into their old ways once again. The Cosmopolite Loop-holes, distractions, and manipulation...this seems like standard operational procedures for Star-Fraction. Why am I not surprised? The chaos and deceit that consumes Star-Fraction is a dark omen of what followers of their failed vision of anarchism will face should they give in to such foolish notions. ------------------------------------------------
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.25 15:03:00 - [28] The questions were not addressed to you but I do have a question for you. You say that "the Minmatar perspective towards the practice of slavery must be altered to see that nothing is as easy as life or death" and I wonder quite how you think the perspective must be altered. The Minmatar people, with the exception of the alas too numerous race-traitors of their blood, believe slavery to be a monstrous evil that must be extirpated. How should they change their views? As to I-RED and your assertion that they have already answered the critical points, they have not. Indeed, they have repeatedly refused to answer these very points and they still, for all the smoke they are blowing to confuse the issue, refuse to answer the critical points. The issue is not general business in the space of the greater Amarr Empire, including the Khanid Kingdom. That attempt to muddy the waters can be placed to one side. The issue is the slave trade and the trade in goods admitted to be manufactured with slaves. The issue is those who support and live by slavery. The issue is not one of inability to believe people can change, either. Yes, people can change and so can organizations and polities. But let us be clear: The Amarr Empire still sucks the life from billions of slaves. The Khanid Kingdom still holds hundreds of millions in thrall. These polities have not changed. Loyalty to the Empire and all it stands for is support for slavery. Loyalty to the Kingdom and all it stands for it support for slavery. I laugh that you ask why a clear repudiation of slavery and all who practice is necessary. It is necessary because its absence is telling. Why would someone who is against slavery resile from simply repudiating and condemning slavery and all who practice it? Why? Why not do so? If they are truly 'anti-slavery' they would do so. Yet they don't. Moreover they still work with slavers and defend slaver traffic as of their last statement on the matter of KPV. As for forcing our views on people. Nothing of the sort. People can hold whatever views they like. It is when they act on them that there may be consequences. Do I-RED repudiate slavery wherever it is found? Do I-RED condemn all those who engage in slavery? Do I-RED pledge to stand aside from interfering in anti-slavery operations? These are the critical questions, none of them have been answered and it is important for them to be answered because this is an organization that has, by its own admission, been involved in support of slavery, slavers and slaver regimes with profit as its motive. Without these questions answered, unequivocally, the suspicion must linger that I-RED will return to its old ways when the searching gaze of freedom lovers has passed on to others. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.25 15:52:00 - [29] While CVA certainly holds no ill-will towards I-RED, I hope a lesson is being learned here on making policy changes of appeasement. They will always want more, John. And while I can understand hoping to take military pressure off of your people, I'm not even sure you'll be successful in that endeavor, much less fully satisfying the likes of the Fractionites and Ushra'Khan.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.06.25 17:23:00 - [30] Originally by: The Cosmopolite The Cosmopolite Feel free to talk to us when you can say Star Fraction has no ties to slavery.

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