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Huessar Amarr Divinity Core	Posted - 2010.06.21 12:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Huessar on 21/06/2010 12:42:07 I have an Omen, am a relatively new player, most of my skills are 3 or 4 and being worked on(getting my learning skills up before starting the multi-day 5 level skills). What i am primarily doing right now is salvage and have a destroyer geared up for that. I also have a probe ship to find stuff. I am having no problem finding trouble in the sites my probe ship finds. In fact even in Amarr high sec I am getting my ass kicked regularly and have already lost two cruisers to drones. I find my medium beam turrets have a hard time damaging drones and my own drones get shot down very easily seemingly.I was webbed I think last attempt and wasnt even able to jump out. Now how should I equip the weapons on my new cruiser? Should I use pulse weapons instead of beam weapons? Will that allow me to hit the drones and frigates easier? Should I invest in a webber for PVE work? Whats better, 3 light combat drones or a medium and a light drone? What works best for boosting my capacitor(besides skills, working on them)? Currently in 6.0, should I go to a higher sec system to run the exloration sites? Thanks Edit: Oh should i be using rockets or missiles? I seem to burn through rockets like its going out of style and can empty my ammo bin in a single encounter.
Kyo Haku Minmatar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2010.06.21 14:13:00 - [2] I don't know a lot about the Amarr ship line, but the Arbitrator and Maller are usually considered better than the Omen. What you might want to do is fit a MWD and kite them away, killing what you can, then go back and get the rest. Also, depending on the resists of the drones, it might not be easy to kill them. It also depends on the crystals you are using. I'm not familiar with Amarr weapon systems either, so can't help you there. I do know that Multifrequency and Radio are commonly used, though. -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert
Peckles Pyrotechnics Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.21 15:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Kyo Haku I don't know a lot about the Amarr ship line, but the Arbitrator and Maller are usually considered better than the Omen. What you might want to do is fit a MWD and kite them away, killing what you can, then go back and get the rest. Also, depending on the resists of the drones, it might not be easy to kill them. It also depends on the crystals you are using. I'm not familiar with Amarr weapon systems either, so can't help you there. I do know that Multifrequency and Radio are commonly used, though. Im gladded you added your two cents. Considering you admitted to knowing nothing about amarr ships or amarr weapons, maybe you should have stayed out of a thread posting about it. Anyways... It sounds to me like what you are doing is called ninja salvaging (i.e. salvaging other peoples wrecks from missions). You really need to be more specific about what you want to do with your omen before we can help you fit it. Do you want to salvage more wrecks, kill missioners or kill npcs?
Huessar Amarr Divinity Core	Posted - 2010.06.21 16:43:00 - [4] I scan for sites with my probe ship. Go in and kill with my cruiser, then go in with my salvage ship, in theory. While I have the salvage and probing part down, the going in and killing things is so far unsuccessful. Mostly I have been dealing with drones and frigates. I had upgraded from a destroyer and which was easily overwhelmed by the numbers of drones or frigates and missile turrets. Id kill one or two and by then my armor was 3/4 gone. So i upgraded to a cruiser and the first two I have lost to drones, they must have been webbing me because I was unable to warp out. I havent tried officialy ninja-salvaging yet and have just been jumping from belt to belt fighting rats with my destroyer and salvaging them and anything else I happened to find.
Natalie Caladan Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2010.06.21 16:59:00 - [5] I know your problem! The problem with drones is that they are fast, which makes it hard to track them with your laser turret. Train up another drone skill or fit an Assault Launcher (not Heavy Assault) and fit it with EM Sabretooth missiles. Also a webifier may be handy to slow them down and make them easier to hit. Also fitting an afterburner can be handy to stay at optimal range. What pulse/beam is concerned: pulse has better tracking and is more for short distances so they may help too. Just adjust the crystals you use to the orbital distance of the drones.
Randon Alt67	Posted - 2010.06.21 17:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Huessar I scan for sites with my probe ship. Go in and kill with my cruiser, then go in with my salvage ship, in theory. While I have the salvage and probing part down, the going in and killing things is so far unsuccessful. Mostly I have been dealing with drones and frigates. I had upgraded from a destroyer and which was easily overwhelmed by the numbers of drones or frigates and missile turrets. Id kill one or two and by then my armor was 3/4 gone. So i upgraded to a cruiser and the first two I have lost to drones, they must have been webbing me because I was unable to warp out. I havent tried officialy ninja-salvaging yet and have just been jumping from belt to belt fighting rats with my destroyer and salvaging them and anything else I happened to find. A couple of things about the Omen, it has good DPS, but it cannot tank as strong compared to a Maller. You will want to focus on the larger higher damage ships first and work your way down the line. Try fitting an AB so you can keep some distances and help knock your gun's transversal down when needed against the smaller targets. For your tank fit specific to what you are fighting, do not omin tank as the Omen is not the best tanker. If you continue to have problems a Maller may be a better choice tank wise. It will do less damage, but you will not die as much. I would also recommend staying in Amarr space to run these since the Omen has the restist and damage to best deal with Sansha/Blood Raiders. I'd say try something like this: [Omen, New Setup 1] Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Radioisotope EM Hardener I Radioisotope Thermic Hardener I Capacitor Power Relay II Heat Sink II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hobgoblin I x3
DrEmperor Anonemoose	Posted - 2010.06.21 17:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Peckles Im gladded you added your two cents. Considering you admitted to knowing nothing about amarr ships or amarr weapons, maybe you should have stayed out of a thread posting about it. Anyways... It sounds to me like what you are doing is called ninja salvaging (i.e. salvaging other peoples wrecks from missions). You really need to be more specific about what you want to do with your omen before we can help you fit it. Do you want to salvage more wrecks, kill missioners or kill npcs? I'm glad you added your two cents. Considering you admitted to knowing nothing about PvE activities by accusing him of ninja salvaging, maybe you should have stayed out of a thread posting about general PvE activities. With that out of the way... If we're talking about Drone frigates you're typically going to have a harder time firing at them and landing a shot, especially with beam weapons. If I recall correctly they have a much slower tracking speed than pulse weapons. Other then that I'd suggest finding a better fit, a better boat, or simply increasing your Gunnery and Mechanic skills a good bit if you're getting shot out of the Ether so easily. Best of luck!
Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.06.21 18:07:00 - [8] Pretty much what Random said. Anyways generally with drones: more > size Pulses are going to track a lot better and do higher dmg but if you find yourself out of range a lot then beams are going to be better for PVE. As an aside if you are going to stick with Amarr I suggest you do train drone skills because they are really useful. Also the Arbitrator (which incidentally would be a good boat for what it sounds like you're doing) is a good Amarr cruiser, and even better you'll be able to hop into the Curse or Pilgrim that much more easily when the time comes. Also drone skills translate to all races equally so when/if you cross train they are there to help you through. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Mordican	Posted - 2010.06.21 18:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Jin Nib Pretty much what Random said. Anyways generally with drones: more > size Pulses are going to track a lot better and do higher dmg but if you find yourself out of range a lot then beams are going to be better for PVE. As an aside if you are going to stick with Amarr I suggest you do train drone skills because they are really useful. Also the Arbitrator (which incidentally would be a good boat for what it sounds like you're doing) is a good Amarr cruiser, and even better you'll be able to hop into the Curse or Pilgrim that much more easily when the time comes. Also drone skills translate to all races equally so when/if you cross train they are there to help you through. Confirming I love the Arby. It is one of the most well rounded cruisers in the game. You can tank it nicely for PvE, it is cheap, and the drone bay/DPS is nice. Puting a salvager and a tractor in the highs with a gun or two and you are golden. For PvP you have some many options with drones, ewar, etc and it is CHEAP! A T1 fitted arby always has a place in a fight.
MalVortex Reaper Industries Asset Liberation Front.	Posted - 2010.06.21 21:11:00 - [10] Get an arbitrator, the omen and maller are both trash. Your done skills are something you will want to train up sooner than later anyways. Then stop running drone sites, as they are terrible and the payout sucks. If you are doing exploration, look for actual combat sites (DED or escalation).

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