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lizzy54
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Posted - 2010.06.30 07:29:00 -
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The primae is beautiful, I love the design and the attention for detail.
But why waste the design on a one time gift?
Make the ship usefull with larger bays, maybe some med-slots.
Make a new skill to train for it (planetary industrial)
Seed the blueprints
This way the ship will be used and we will see more them in space. |
Terro Deagas
Double-Down
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Posted - 2010.06.30 07:34:00 -
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This definitely has not been brought up at all yet.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Tritanium Space Whales
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 07:39:00 -
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Its a nice looking ship. However, what exactly is the point of it?
100m3 cargo bay ok, better than a shuttle I suppose
room for 2 command centres in a dedicated bay..... oookay, badger II can carry that as well
room for 1000m3 of planet goo ....... See above.
4 lowslots meh
Its like flying around with a big shoot me sign strapped to the hull.
Im either at a planet or a customs post. Come shoot me :)
Maybe i'm being a bit harsh, maybe its stealthy enough to survive and fulfill a role that is currently filled by cloaky haulers, but as you can't build any more of them, is it worth the risk to find out? |
Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.30 07:54:00 -
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It's a gift.
It's there for fun.
Stop overanalyzing it.
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:05:00 -
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Beautiful? I beg your pardon?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:09:00 -
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Have a slap in the face.
It's a gift, just for you.
Don't whine about it.
It's free after all.
Better say thanks.
Now shut up.
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Fikreta
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:12:00 -
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Yeah it's a gift, and yeah it's very nice looking ship. Still, I don't understand why CCP is constantly giving us totally useless ships good only to collect dust in hangars. What's the point? I don't even remember where's my Apotheosis.
Imo these gifts should have some unique characteristics which would render them slightly better in certain areas than any other comparable ship in game. For example, Primae could have PI cargobay significantly larger than industrials. Or ability to fit cov ops cloak. Or... I don't know, *something* which would motivate people to actually use them.
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Victorick
Skeptical Design
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:19:00 -
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If I read another thread about how a gift ship looks good, but is not good, I might choke a troll. Gift ships have always been shiny and come with that new ship smell, yet never have they served any game changing purpose.
It was a gift, take it and enjoy it.
I highly doubt that CCP don't have new shiny ships planned that we can use to kill each other in the future, and for years to come.
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the teddybear
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Its a nice looking ship. However, what exactly is the point of it?
100m3 cargo bay ok, better than a shuttle I suppose
room for 2 command centres in a dedicated bay..... oookay, badger II can carry that as well
room for 1000m3 of planet goo ....... See above.
4 lowslots meh
Its like flying around with a big shoot me sign strapped to the hull.
Im either at a planet or a customs post. Come shoot me :)
Maybe i'm being a bit harsh, maybe its stealthy enough to survive and fulfill a role that is currently filled by cloaky haulers, but as you can't build any more of them, is it worth the risk to find out?
but the 1000m3 cargo bay for goo isn't working right now so... |
lizzy54
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Posted - 2010.06.30 08:52:00 -
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This thread is not about how bad the ship is. It is about why they put a lot of work in a one time gift instead of introducing a new cool ship to the game that will get used!
It doesn't have to be a free ship! I'dd rather have a new ship we can manufacture then a one time gift.
I like the gift, the artwork is very good, I just find it a pitty that it won't be used to its full potential. |
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Winters Chill
Amarr
Shadow Legion.
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.06.30 09:05:00 -
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I feel sorry for the art team, all that work for a one time gift :(
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.30 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Winters Chill
I feel sorry for the art team, all that work for a one time gift :(
Yes - perhaps they can save the day and sell blueprints or make them drop?
It may sound ungrateful but I agree that all those 1-time ships gathering dust inside some forgotten hangar aren't my idea of nice presents either. The 100k SP bonus was actually a lot more useful.
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Penjual Sayur
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:04:00 -
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I agree on this one, the ship's art/design is wasted on this one-time gift.
IMO it looks like more of a battleship to me. But that's just me.
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Balkor Wolf
Gallente
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:07:00 -
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PErsonally I like this ship design, i doubt ill ever use it but maybe stick it in a prize for some corp tournament or something
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Angie McFish
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:43:00 -
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Make a T2 variant
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Kendar
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:22:00 -
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description say something about beeing originaly designed to be a deep space salvage ship..
would be awesome to have it with salvage, tractor and analyzer bonus 
mabye make it a litle more gritty and dented as it probably have a lot of marks after crashing into spacegarbage
no weapon slots only utility slots mid and low for analyzer and heavy tank
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Corvus Dove
Caldari
Majestic.
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:00:00 -
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Complaining about this ship is a bit extreme. It's a freebie intended to get people to start using the planetary portion of EVE more. An integration tool that is served as a free gift. Newbies will appreciate it more than hardened veterans, but then again, they always do, because it's a useful way to start up faster.
Really, whining on the Primae is like complaining that the Snowball Launchers from winter times past couldn't be loaded with depleted uranium ammo.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Terro Deagas
This definitely has not been brought up at all yet.
Nope. 
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Lt Angus
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Winters Chill
I feel sorry for the art team, all that work for a one time gift :(
but there is close to 300,000 of them so its one of the most common ships in eve 
feel sorry for the art team of the Redeemer
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Penjual Sayur
I agree on this one, the ship's art/design is wasted on this one-time gift.
IMO it looks like more of a battleship to me. But that's just me.
It is only wasted if it wasn't a design prototype intended to develop the new look for other spaceships.
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Fikreta
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Penjual Sayur
I agree on this one, the ship's art/design is wasted on this one-time gift.
IMO it looks like more of a battleship to me. But that's just me.
It is only wasted if it wasn't a design prototype intended to develop the new look for other spaceships.
... which is very unlikely to happen in foreseeable future considering the time CCP needs to create new or redesign existing ships.
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Auferre
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Posted - 2010.06.30 18:25:00 -
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It looks great. Whoever did the art for it should do more ship designs. Also, it's free. These two things do not incline me toward complaint.
It's mildly useless, but then so are Christmas ornaments - and I have to pay for those again every year after the cat breaks them.
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Joe Bonanno
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Posted - 2010.06.30 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Auferre
It looks great. Whoever did the art for it should do more ship designs. Also, it's free. These two things do not incline me toward complaint.
It's mildly useless, but then so are Christmas ornaments - and I have to pay for those again every year after the cat breaks them.
Pretty well this. It's free, like seriously you get what you pay for so stop *****ing. |
Drenan
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.30 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Fikreta
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Penjual Sayur
I agree on this one, the ship's art/design is wasted on this one-time gift.
IMO it looks like more of a battleship to me. But that's just me.
It is only wasted if it wasn't a design prototype intended to develop the new look for other spaceships.
... which is very unlikely to happen in foreseeable future considering the time CCP needs to create new or redesign existing ships.
This. (CCP, the company that took seven years to give the scorp its missing goddam wing!!!) 
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2010.06.30 20:58:00 -
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When I first saw it I thought of a fancy mining cruiser or something.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:05:00 -
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It was probably a redesign for another ship that didnt quite get accepted for that specific ship was cool enough to warrent its own.
Art departments create alot of content, content we as customers will never ever possibly even imagine to see. These assest are then cherry picked by the directors for further development and production.
In possible retro spec my 200 odd eve fan ships does pale in comparison to what a possible massive libary of ships the art department already has and not used at the second stage of development which is further interated details and definition the step above the thumbnail part.
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Nathaniel Howe
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:12:00 -
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I hate to say it, but this is the same wierd carebearish junk that Bliz does in WoW. The little penguin pets and bear cub pets and so forth that are for looks.
I was very disappointed that this ship was so useless - even for cargo hauling. It's very pretty and well designed and actually looks like a sci-fi starship (specifically reminds me of the earth ships from Babylon 5).
I felt sort of bamboozled, but it is free, I guess, so whatever. I just think Eve needs a general redesign of ships with cool moving parts, etc. and I believe that's probably at the root of the OP's complaint. It's what we used to call "flavor." Perhaps issuing ships like this are some sort of a graphics/skin test to see what people think of the new designs before they roll them out? Otherwise, waste of time on their part imho. Use those skins redisgn the Minmatar or Gallente ships (or Caldari) instead of on this planetary stuff.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:54:00 -
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ccp experimenting with ships should be producable tho
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Svarty II
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:31:00 -
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I agree with the O.P.
This is Eve Online's equivalent of The Smiths "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others". A beautiful tune with diabolical lyrics.
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Derus Grobb
Minmatar
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:37:00 -
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+1 to The Smiths
and +1 to the OP. This ship is too good to waste on a gift, give it a bigger PI bay and give us blueprints!
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Angus
Originally by: Winters Chill
I feel sorry for the art team, all that work for a one time gift :(
but there is close to 300,000 of them so its one of the most common ships in eve
feel sorry for the art team of the Redeemer
why? the redeemer is beautiful.
The primae isnt.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:55:00 -
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I've got to support the OP on this one - he's not really complaining, he's appreciating the time and effort involved in creating the ship and feels it should be a proper addition to EVE, as opposed to a one-off that people don't take out as intended because its irreplaceable. I agree.
It would be nice to have a version of this thing that actually competes with the bear minimum of indy vessels, at a suitable cost, on the market, as a canon ship.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.01 01:02:00 -
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I love the design, but for a nimble ship it's also very slow...comparable to an Iteron. Definitely not something I'd take into low-sec or 0.0 (lack of MWD for 0.0 for that matter). Nanos help, but not by much.
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lizzy54
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Posted - 2010.07.01 06:51:00 -
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I am definitely not complaining. I love the ship (although it is not very useful).
I am only stating that I'd like to see more of this quality work in-game on ships that are actually used! |
Laedy
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Posted - 2010.07.01 08:29:00 -
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Am I the only one that thinks the Primae looks like a cheap plastic toy?
It just doesn't seem like it fits in with other ship designs in EVE 
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Ryuga VonRhaiden
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 10:23:00 -
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A unique gift stays a unique gift.
But, let's think of it as a prototype, CCP could tweak the model a bit (maybe add some larger cargobays), change the skin and make an *actual* ship of it with higher requirements and better attributes... it'd be nice, easy to do, and we'd have a ship with unique bonuses (not as good as a generic hauler, but outperforming blockade runners in planetary goo transport) :)
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Opertone
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.01 10:31:00 -
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because t2 primae willl actually do stuff, which dev yet are unsure of
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Tamara Kit
Eternal Frontier
Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.07.01 18:25:00 -
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It is an extremely useful ship ! I love it, and it's beautiful too !
Go ccp ! go ! Give us more of that ! They're almost like the little figurines of militants and exotic dancers. I bet this ship took way more time to design though. So go CCP ! |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.01 19:04:00 -
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I doubt we'll get a comment, if anything at all, before the 13th when the Primae offer expires.
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