and our upcoming plans for hisec

Speaking of which, you in love with him too?

Or his personal PR consultant?

Shoot Scarlet.

So you want Goons to stay out of empire space? I suppose you want us to sit in the back of the bus as well?

The Apostle != The Mittani , a no brainer..
It probably takes a special kind of ego to name characters like that.

Regardless of what his plans are for high sec, you cant make changes to it without it affecting all other parts of the game.

Mittens said


You may also have seen Riv's post.

Discuss

I suppose you want us to sit in the back of the bus as well?

Isn't it just...adorable...how Mittens thinks he actually matters?

Also, The Apostle, does your tinfoil hat still work under that hood?

High sec is a very delicate place, balancing on the edge of a sword which holds up the eve online universe.

Regardless of what his plans are for high sec, you cant make changes to it without it affecting all other parts of the game.

FANGER PAPIT

Change the behavior of people in high sec? Why would that concern you? Who are YOU to want MY behavior changed?

I'm not going to advocate changing the game dynamics to accomplish that. Some things are not under ones purview, this being one.

Goonswarm Shrugged: An Empire Drama

You may not be interested in Goonswarm. But Goonswarm is interested in you.

Once our victims in Delve slump into dejected acceptance and we start to race through their sovereignty, Weaselior (with help from Kazanir and Aryth amongst others) has come up with a plan to inflict some amazingly widespread misery on those we hate. GÇ£Those we hateGÇ¥, as you know, includes (but is by no means limited to) everyone in Eve, including ourselves. And so it is with this super-secret plan. Stage one is already underway, and if you respond to my nagging and grant Vee and Dbrb some sizable fleets over the next week or so then weGÇÖll roll it out and you will see some hilarity.

Ok pubbies, here's some realtalk. The way you play the game in highsec is horrible. Mining for hours on end while making tiny amounts of isk, running level 4 missions until your eyes bleed, playing 1-isk trading games in Jita and whatever other lame activities you take part in while confining yourselves to .5 space and higer. We can't sit back any longer and let you ruin your lives this way. We're going to teach you to actually have fun in this horrible game and it will be glorious.

We're here to help. You can trust us.

Ok pubbies, here's some realtalk. The way you play the game in highsec is horrible. Mining for hours on end while making tiny amounts of isk, running level 4 missions until your eyes bleed, playing 1-isk trading games in Jita and whatever other lame activities you take part in while confining yourselves to .5 space and higer. We can't sit back any longer and let you ruin your lives this way. We're going to teach you to actually have fun in this horrible game and it will be glorious.

We're here to help. You can trust us.

Ok pubbies, here's some realtalk. The way you play the game in highsec is horrible. Mining for hours on end while making tiny amounts of isk, running level 4 missions until your eyes bleed, playing 1-isk trading games in Jita and whatever other lame activities you take part in while confining yourselves to .5 space and higer. We can't sit back any longer and let you ruin your lives this way. We're going to teach you to actually have fun in this horrible game and it will be glorious.

We're here to help. You can trust us.

Mittens said


You may also have seen Riv's post.

Discuss

one more word : Sycophant.

never stop posting.

Ok pubbies, here's some realtalk. The way you play the game in highsec is horrible. Mining for hours on end while making tiny amounts of isk, running level 4 missions until your eyes bleed, playing 1-isk trading games in Jita and whatever other lame activities you take part in while confining yourselves to .5 space and higer. We can't sit back any longer and let you ruin your lives this way. We're going to teach you to actually have fun in this horrible game and it will be glorious.

We're here to help. You can trust us.

Ok pubbies, here's some realtalk. The way you play the game in highsec is horrible. Mining for hours on end while making tiny amounts of isk, running level 4 missions until your eyes bleed, playing 1-isk trading games in Jita and whatever other lame activities you take part in while confining yourselves to .5 space and higer. We can't sit back any longer and let you ruin your lives this way. We're going to teach you to actually have fun in this horrible game and it will be glorious.

We're here to help. You can trust us.

Every time you **********,
God kills a Mitt... Kitten.

Very nicely spoken! I can't wait to find out what exciting forms of teaching you folk bring to we hisec carebears :)

That's assuming you get to the doing part, of course. I know a lot of you folk start to pee your pants when you get to hisec due to the sheer number of neutrals in local.

Thats the thing though.. nothing you said is actually true. Mining for hours is extremely profitable. Running level 4 missions is probobly one of the most profitable things you can do in Eve today next to 1sk trading games which yield multiple billions for people on a weekly basis.

Considering most goons go directly to nullsec without spending any time in empire we find highsec to be a strange experience. Luckily for all of you are willing to endure it to make the game better for everybody.

Also, an op has been posted on the holy Goon forums to kick off our Highsec Reeducation Campaign...expect more details soon!

Change the behavior of people in high sec? Why would that concern you? Who are YOU to want MY behavior changed? Personally, I'd like to see YOUR behavior changed, but I'm not going to advocate changing the game dynamics to accomplish that. Some things are not under ones purview, this being one.

Here's an idea. You stay out on the end of the map where you think all the cool kids are, and I'll stay in my little inconsequential corner. You behave like you wish. I'll do the same.

Change our behavior...pffft. My hubris meter broke on that one.

my experience:

mining in high-sec is a pita - why do you think it is so hard to get basic ores/minerals in 0.0 even if you have a nice group of dedicated miners? because apparently ABC ores are the only way to get a decent income through mining...

high-sec mission running does fall short of mission running in 0.0 (payouts & LP rewards are about 50% higher in 0.0, also pirate LP do usually sell for much more ISK/LP than LP of high-sec corporations), is comparable to running CAs in 0.0 if you are really optimizing your mission-running and does just not compare to Incursions (in an organized group) or farming a c5/c6.

When I lived in 0.0 those who wanted to be able to afford a supercarrier (and were not already rich or risked running bots) would usually disappear into wormholes for a few weeks.

A T2-fit Zealot or Guardian (one faction hardener to lower cpu needs) can earn 80-100m/h doing Incursions - try to get a comparable income doing high-sec mission running (on a single account) and your ship will probably cost 20x as much and you'll still fall short in earnings.

The problem with this sort of approach is that it calculates only ISK/HOUR and nothing else goes into the equation (a rather constant reminder of how the perspective of your Eve life influences yuo).

For example High sec mission running compared to 0.0 mission running are not comprabable operations in the slightest. I mean ya if your in a big alliance that controls SOV in an area and everyone is blue to you, it might have some simularities but the risks for most people to even be in 0.0 let alone run missions their is no contest. Get ganked once and that ISK/HOUR ratio is comprable to running level 1 missions.

Incursions is a rather new thing and not entirely approachable to everyone. Your talking T2 Zealots or Guardians like they are throw away ships or something. You can start running Level 4 missions in less than a month (I know I did it) while getting into a Zealot.. well I have no idea how long it would take but their are 5 level 5 skills needed just to get into the thing. And I don't know what level 4 missions your running but I earn about 80-100 million ISK an hour doing Level 4's, sometimes considerably better than that depending on the drops and missions I get.

For No risk, high rewards their is nothing comprable to Level 4 missions. Incursions is a close second, but with proper management of the assets you gain from missions, Level 4's still come out on top.

Forgive my ignorance being an Aussie and all. What is this? If it's sposed to be "finger puppet", 'fraid not.

Not knowing "The Mittani" in his role as CEO of Goons and Chairman of the CSM (The purported Eve player representative committee) is probably not unusual if you only breath highsec space dust.

But I suspect you'll get to know his band of merry men soon enough.