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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services Russian International Allegiance
44
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Posted - 2012.07.21 11:03:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:My personal opinion is that America should enforce compulsory concealed carry laws. You're too far gone to ban all guns - massacres are bound to continue to happen Make sure that everyone is carrying, and you'll see less massacres. I mean everyone is armed right? Even if someone decides to attempt to massacre a room/building full of people, he won't get very far when Jenny from Accounting pulls an AK from under her desk 
I agree with you. I believe that I could outrun a good portion of knife wielding psychos ... but a gun is a ranged weapon. So running away or hiding behind a standard door is not really an option.
All americans should be armed with guns, even kids.
You know how we europeans learned that wars (especially between european countries) are not really a good thing ?
World war I : 16 million deaths
... and because the first lesson didn't stick:
World War II, 60 million deaths
Mmh, at the same time you could get rid of the TSA controls, if everyone's armed anyway  EVE Racing event thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164&find=unread
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Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.07.21 12:44:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Soldiers do carry knives...... Not 'instead' of guns though, and they rarely carry potatoes. " Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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stoicfaux
1269
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Posted - 2012.07.21 15:45:00 -
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Wait. Someone pounding with both fists on your door at 2am is probably trying to get your attention because they're in trouble, or they're a stupid drunk.
Did you at least call the cops so they could investigate in case there was a real problem? Plus, at least my my city, the cops allocate resources based on the crime reports, so it behooves you to call 911.
Also in regards to leaving town, the other option is to stay and clean it up. To quote a friend, send in the butch lesbians to clean the neighborhood up, then the gay men to make it pretty, and finally send in the breeders (i.e. the heterosexuals with kids.)
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
558
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Posted - 2012.07.21 20:37:00 -
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Adalun Dey wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Soldiers do carry knives...... Not 'instead' of guns though, and they rarely carry potatoes.
They give them both because either or can get the job done just as effectively. I know I'd want a knife if I were the first through a door and a insurgent tackled my ass to the floor. Be pretty hard to aim an assault rifle when the target is on top of you. |

Generals4
973
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Posted - 2012.07.21 20:50:00 -
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Theron Urian wrote:
For the record I am not some anti gun hippy, I currently have 3 rifles, 2 shotguns, 4 pistols, a Bow and arrows, and various knives in my bedroom alone. They are all tools that we as Americans are privileged to own, and a few people being irresponsible with them are the reason the government wants to take them from us all.
This sounds as silly as someone saying "i own 3 trucks, 2 SUV's, 4 cars and a motorcycle" only in this case we're talking about killing tools. One handgun for self defence? Sure, it's understandible, if i lived in a country that would allow me to have one i'd get one too. But that many? Why? -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Theron Urian
The Moirae Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2012.07.21 21:22:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:Theron Urian wrote:
For the record I am not some anti gun hippy, I currently have 3 rifles, 2 shotguns, 4 pistols, a Bow and arrows, and various knives in my bedroom alone. They are all tools that we as Americans are privileged to own, and a few people being irresponsible with them are the reason the government wants to take them from us all.
This sounds as silly as someone saying "i own 3 trucks, 2 SUV's, 4 cars and a motorcycle" only in this case we're talking about killing tools. One handgun for self defence? Sure, it's understandible, if i lived in a country that would allow me to have one i'd get one too. But that many? Why?
Different rounds and guns for different applications.
I hunt , I like to go to the range for target practice and competitive shooting, home defense, and concealed carry.
I enjoy my fire arms and have a lot of fun with them, and get just as much practical use.
If you enjoyed classic cars and had 6 of them would you consider that odd?
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
558
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Posted - 2012.07.21 22:06:00 -
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Theron Urian wrote:Generals4 wrote:Theron Urian wrote:
For the record I am not some anti gun hippy, I currently have 3 rifles, 2 shotguns, 4 pistols, a Bow and arrows, and various knives in my bedroom alone. They are all tools that we as Americans are privileged to own, and a few people being irresponsible with them are the reason the government wants to take them from us all.
This sounds as silly as someone saying "i own 3 trucks, 2 SUV's, 4 cars and a motorcycle" only in this case we're talking about killing tools. One handgun for self defence? Sure, it's understandible, if i lived in a country that would allow me to have one i'd get one too. But that many? Why? Different rounds and guns for different applications. I hunt , I like to go to the range for target practice and competitive shooting, home defense, and concealed carry. I enjoy my fire arms and have a lot of fun with them, and get just as much practical use. If you enjoyed classic cars and had 6 of them would you consider that odd?
And they are a collectible like anything else you can get out there. Several of my guns belonged to my grandfather and I've gotten many more just because I like the look of them. In fact I have a few that I have never fired before. My most used however are:
My .308 British Enfield is my hunting rifle. For a rifle that is 80 years old it is incredibly accurate with iron sights. The only modification I've made to it is a hunting sling and a ammo sleeve on the butt. It still has all of its original markings, paint, and dings in the wood.
My 12 gauge Winchester semi auto is my bird rifle. This one is a hand me down from my father.
My 9 mm is my fun at the gun range pistol. Ammo is cheap and I can kill those paper targets all day long. We also occasionally bring out a .38 that has quite a bit more kick to it.
And my AK-47 is my other fun at the range gun because, well, its an AK. You can't help but admire the simplicity of the design which has been incorporated into almost every Russian rifle since then (Dragunov, Saiga, RPK-74M).
What I like about guns are the hundreds of ways you can change them and make them look, each one becoming an individual little work of art. I've always have been fascinated by the function of the design as well watching how the chamber gets pushed by by the gas created by the bullet firing, ejecting the spent shell and then catching the next round and chambering it all in one action. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1651
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Posted - 2012.07.22 04:22:00 -
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If someone pounds on my door, it means that got over the fencing - most of it barbed wire which is common in these parts - and past the dogs.
if they are not authorized they die.
But not being conditioned by television, I won't go sneaking around in the dark. Ever notice that on TV? Every time there is a "gun episode", they always have one of the charnacters ultimately end up groping around their own home with a handgun, and then nearly shooting someone they know.
(We call that brainwashing, by the way).
If you defend your home with a firearm, please remember that you live there and since you probably pay the electric bill too, turn on your damned lights. Most burglers will be scared of that. Those who are not scared of that you can identify, and if they are not scared when they see someone is home, then their motivation for being there exceeds stealing your DVD player and they need to be removed from the planet.
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Ganjjabeard
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
19
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:46:00 -
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i like all this constructive talk about gun control in america. it is a very difficult situation because we as a country are centered around guns..(ie: won our independance through revolutionary means, wild west american culture, hollywood action movies) its a tough cookie no doubt about how gun control might work if at all. im all for the 2nd amendment (as my beretta and rifles will vouch for me) but there should be some sort of mental evaluation of people who own guns. obviously look what happen in colorado. the guy obtained EVERYTHING completely legal. same case with the columbine shootings AND the virginia tech massacre. as stupid as this may sound i do have to aggree that arming civilians to protect themselves is an immediate and effective way to combat physcos. ill be honest although itll be weird to have many people walking with guns on their hips (as if it was the wild west which it was normal back then) but i feel that with this many people in response and a good majority of them being sane and responsible (so we'd hope...) would react in good time and with some skill and training to limit casualties. at least im speaking for myself if i witness some guy in my neighboorhood losing it and going on a rampage (which would be fairly obvious to understand whats going on) i would immediately put him down asap its a sad thing but itll save possibly a mother and daughter and maybe even my family members which live in the area... overall, yea i consider myself one of those sane sensible gun owners and i gladly would respond to any nut threatening public safety in my neighboorhood, again because if its in my area, i immediately think of my family and the chance that a murderous physco my stumble near my mom or dad or something...
get in the van. |

Dalmont Delantee
The Black Legionnares SpaceMonkey's Alliance
32
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Posted - 2012.07.22 22:19:00 -
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Ganjjabeard wrote:good for me i keep the shotgun near by... some fools thought it was funny to bang on my door at 2 in the morning while in the middle of my internet spaceship session....they got a loud reply of the shotgun's "cocking" mechanism and subsequently beat their high school track records as a result :D
thank god for the 2nd amendment :)
'merica! **** ya \m/
And this is why I'm glad I'm not american. Of course knocking on your door is such a dire thing that a shotgun is the appropriate response... |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1653
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Posted - 2012.07.22 22:44:00 -
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Adalun Dey wrote:Theron Urian wrote: Do you take away all guns because of a small majority of offenders? Do you take away all knifes because some people stab others with them? Do you ban potato chips because they make fat people fat?
If knives were as dangerous as guns, they'd give soldiers knives instead of guns. Somehow it seems harder to commit murder using potatoes as well.
At arms length range, and that's where most homicides with guns occur, a knife is way more lethal.
Would you rather be shot say with a 9mm HP that "MIGHT" cake up with your close and not expand and go right through...
or...
Would you prefer to get it across the the carotids, followed up across the "blue worm" (that big fat vein in your belly) and than into the pernieum which leads to either leg artery on the way out (meaning you are dead in around a minute) and then for the last move, a twisting heart stab or worse, a side heart stab that is followed up by a J-cut (that is intended to spill your guts).
People who train in those moves can do all of that in the same time it takes to pull a gun. Best part is, nobody will hear the knife over their iPods, and you have no chance of surviving without aid.
See? Didn't take my advice, a cop should know better but police training really sucks anyway. |

Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
12
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Posted - 2012.07.23 05:17:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Hestia Mar wrote:You were being sarcastic when you wrote that last paragraph, weren't you...guns as tools? LOL! Tools for what - you need to go hunting your Big Mac? We use them for pest removal. Invasive species don't shoot themselves.
amen. shooting groundhogs and the like is great fun. a firearm is a tool, like any other. |

witchking42
UNFRL Fleet Operations
37
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Posted - 2012.07.23 07:55:00 -
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I imagine your Eve rig is setup like this then....
http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4d3defa1ccd1d5ce47030000/crazy-computer-den-guns-huge-computer.jpg
wk42
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2006
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Posted - 2012.07.23 16:41:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If someone pounds on my door, it means that got over the fencing - most of it barbed wire which is common in these parts - and past the dogs.
if they are not authorized they die. Shooting someone for knocking on your door is illegal most everywhere. Will you feel justified in your paranoia if you shoot a young panicked mother who ran to the nearest house because her baby is hurt?
edit: by all means, answer the door prepared for bad things. Chain on the door, foot behind it, gun concealed but accessible...but do NOT approach the door expecting to shoot someone. That's how innocent people die and you become a murderer. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
562
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Posted - 2012.07.23 16:54:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If someone pounds on my door, it means that got over the fencing - most of it barbed wire which is common in these parts - and past the dogs.
if they are not authorized they die. Shooting someone for knocking on your door is illegal most everywhere. Will you feel justified in your paranoia if you shoot a young panicked mother who ran to the nearest house because her baby is hurt? edit: by all means, answer the door prepared for bad things. Chain on the door, foot behind it, gun concealed but accessible...but do NOT approach the door expecting to shoot someone. That's how innocent people die and you become a murderer.
Something tells me the panicked mothers are going to pass up the Branch Herzogg Compound with his electrified barb wire fences and attack dog's . It probably makes the Chainsaw Massacre house look like a safe location to go to. |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2012.07.23 18:05:00 -
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Sweet!
I got the dual monitors setup, but only four pistols in the immediate vicinity.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat desert first! |

Something Random
The Barrow Boys
173
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Posted - 2012.07.23 21:13:00 -
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I live in the UK. We are almost sensible. So when someone knocks at my door at 2am (no-ones yet actually found the door, but they will.... they willl) i have a big red button harnessed electrically to a 50 MegaTon warhead i found while fishing once.
Aint gonna git meeeeeeeeeeee.
"caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |

Black Panpher
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.07.24 15:59:00 -
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Every time I read some ******** Second Amendment post on the internet I can't help but feel smug and so glad I live in the UK. But I'm more than for it, the worlds population desperately needs thinning and god knows there are a lot of stupid people in the US we could do without anyway.
If only your country had reasonable laws like the UK, for example:
In Chester, its legal to shoot a Welsh person with a bow and arrow inside city walls after midnight.
In Hereford, you may not shoot a Welsh person on Sunday with a longbow in the Cathedral Close.
In Liverpool it is illegal for a woman to be topless in public except as a clerk in a tropical fish store.
In York, excluding Sundays, it is perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow.
No cows may be driven down the roadway between 10 AM and 7 PM unless there is prior approval from the Commissioner of Police.
I feel the world could learn a lot from this. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1655
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Posted - 2012.07.24 16:10:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If someone pounds on my door, it means that got over the fencing - most of it barbed wire which is common in these parts - and past the dogs.
if they are not authorized they die. Shooting someone for knocking on your door is illegal most everywhere. Will you feel justified in your paranoia if you shoot a young panicked mother who ran to the nearest house because her baby is hurt? edit: by all means, answer the door prepared for bad things. Chain on the door, foot behind it, gun concealed but accessible...but do NOT approach the door expecting to shoot someone. That's how innocent people die and you become a murderer.
You are incorrect.
I just pointed out that I am not afraid to turn on my own lights.
But I am onto the "distressed woman" trick and a woman pounding on my door means I don't go out that door.
But I am not going to predicate a "standing down" on the "it might be some mother in distress". I train people in the use of firearms and I have yet to have a student shoot the wrong person. I teach discernment and an overall system where it's not all centered on the gun and shooting.
But I have heard your argument before, from urban latte-slurpers who live in fear behind their locked doors and call the police for everything.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
309
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Posted - 2012.07.24 18:03:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If someone pounds on my door, it means that got over the fencing - most of it barbed wire which is common in these parts - and past the dogs.
if they are not authorized they die. Shooting someone for knocking on your door is illegal most everywhere. Will you feel justified in your paranoia if you shoot a young panicked mother who ran to the nearest house because her baby is hurt? edit: by all means, answer the door prepared for bad things. Chain on the door, foot behind it, gun concealed but accessible...but do NOT approach the door expecting to shoot someone. That's how innocent people die and you become a murderer. You are incorrect. I just pointed out that I am not afraid to turn on my own lights. But I am onto the "distressed woman" trick and a woman pounding on my door means I don't go out that door. But I am not going to predicate a "standing down" on the "it might be some mother in distress". I train people in the use of firearms and I have yet to have a student shoot the wrong person. I teach discernment and an overall system where it's not all centered on the gun and shooting. But I have heard your argument before, from urban latte-slurpers who live in fear behind their locked doors and call the police for everything. I assume you are in support of my 'Compulsory Concealed Carry' laws? There should be a rather awesome pic here |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1656
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:02:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If someone pounds on my door, it means that got over the fencing - most of it barbed wire which is common in these parts - and past the dogs.
if they are not authorized they die. Shooting someone for knocking on your door is illegal most everywhere. Will you feel justified in your paranoia if you shoot a young panicked mother who ran to the nearest house because her baby is hurt? edit: by all means, answer the door prepared for bad things. Chain on the door, foot behind it, gun concealed but accessible...but do NOT approach the door expecting to shoot someone. That's how innocent people die and you become a murderer. You are incorrect. I just pointed out that I am not afraid to turn on my own lights. But I am onto the "distressed woman" trick and a woman pounding on my door means I don't go out that door. But I am not going to predicate a "standing down" on the "it might be some mother in distress". I train people in the use of firearms and I have yet to have a student shoot the wrong person. I teach discernment and an overall system where it's not all centered on the gun and shooting. But I have heard your argument before, from urban latte-slurpers who live in fear behind their locked doors and call the police for everything. I assume you are in support of my 'Compulsory Concealed Carry' laws?
Well, since it's OK to charge me extra taxes on the grounds that I have to take responsibility for my health - or purchase health insurance, it's only fair to punish people who do not take responsibility for their personal protection and buy a gun.
Fair is fair. Tit for tat. People voted for Obamacare, and I will vote for the polly who does the same with guns (revenge - that's what democracy is really all about).
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Metal Icarus
Minmatar Defence Force
229
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Posted - 2012.07.24 20:45:00 -
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IMO Op had an appropriate reaction to some drunk BS. Pounding at the door at 2am? Yeah, grab a weapon.
So many "what if"s in this thread lol |

Shameless Avenger
319
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:35:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:... America would defend that man's right to own a gun, based on the premise that gun ownership is somehow required to protect themselves from men like that with guns...
Bad troll... when you defend yourself, you defend from whatever the attacker is/has,,, be it a gun, a knife or a potato thrower. It doesn't have to be human either, it could be a bear, a coyote, a freaking puma, etc.
Generals4 wrote:Theron Urian wrote:
For the record I am not some anti gun hippy, I currently have 3 rifles, 2 shotguns, 4 pistols, a Bow and arrows, and various knives in my bedroom alone. They are all tools that we as Americans are privileged to own, and a few people being irresponsible with them are the reason the government wants to take them from us all.
This sounds as silly as someone saying "i own 3 trucks, 2 SUV's, 4 cars and a motorcycle" only in this case we're talking about killing tools. One handgun for self defence? Sure, it's understandible, if i lived in a country that would allow me to have one i'd get one too. But that many? Why?
You can't hunt deer with a 22 (to little punch). You can'y hunt a squirrel with a 30-06 (too much punch). You can't hunt flying birds with either a 22 or a 30-06. Different calibers for different game, different guns for different ranges.
As per the OP... knocking on door? no shootei... busting through door? use your own judgement.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |

Shameless Avenger
319
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:54:00 -
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All this gun talk make me want to fondle my guns. I have them locked away and unloaded (too many kids in the house atm). I need to give them some love, fondle them, rub them with some nice gun lubricant... pour rem-oil till it drips out the tip. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |

Black Panpher
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.07.24 22:08:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:All this gun talk make me want to fondle my guns. I have them locked away and unloaded (too many kids in the house atm). I need to give them some love, fondle them, rub them with some nice gun lubricant... pour rem-oil till it drips out the tip.
Sounds like someone is overcompensating for something... |

Shameless Avenger
319
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Posted - 2012.07.24 22:42:00 -
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Black Panpher wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:All this gun talk make me want to fondle my guns. I have them locked away and unloaded (too many kids in the house atm). I need to give them some love, fondle them, rub them with some nice gun lubricant... pour rem-oil till it drips out the tip. Sounds like someone is overcompensating for something...
Bad troll! bad! Now I'm want to sell the Ruger LCP. 
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |

Antagonisten
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.25 18:42:00 -
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Dalmont Delantee wrote:Ganjjabeard wrote:good for me i keep the shotgun near by... some fools thought it was funny to bang on my door at 2 in the morning while in the middle of my internet spaceship session....they got a loud reply of the shotgun's "cocking" mechanism and subsequently beat their high school track records as a result :D
thank god for the 2nd amendment :)
'merica! **** ya \m/ And this is why I'm glad I'm not american. Of course knocking on your door is such a dire thing that a shotgun is the appropriate response...
I second this. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
468
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:22:00 -
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Ganjjabeard wrote:i like all this constructive talk about gun control in america. it is a very difficult situation because we as a country are centered around guns..(ie: won our independance through revolutionary means, wild west american culture, hollywood action movies) its a tough cookie no doubt about how gun control might work if at all. im all for the 2nd amendment (as my beretta and rifles will vouch for me) but there should be some sort of mental evaluation of people who own guns. obviously look what happen in colorado. the guy obtained EVERYTHING completely legal. same case with the columbine shootings AND the virginia tech massacre. as stupid as this may sound i do have to aggree that arming civilians to protect themselves is an immediate and effective way to combat physcos. ill be honest although itll be weird to have many people walking with guns on their hips (as if it was the wild west which it was normal back then) but i feel that with this many people in response and a good majority of them being sane and responsible (so we'd hope...) would react in good time and with some skill and training to limit casualties. at least im speaking for myself if i witness some guy in my neighboorhood losing it and going on a rampage (which would be fairly obvious to understand whats going on) i would immediately put him down asap its a sad thing but itll save possibly a mother and daughter and maybe even my family members which live in the area... overall, yea i consider myself one of those sane sensible gun owners and i gladly would respond to any nut threatening public safety in my neighboorhood, again because if its in my area, i immediately think of my family and the chance that a murderous physco my stumble near my mom or dad or something...
You hear one shot and see one, no, two, no, thirty people with a gun and a spooky face? Who's the agressor? No time to guess as someone gets a bit too carried and begins shooting... and all in a sudden, there's a hundred stupid American shooting each other. "We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
565
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:38:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Ganjjabeard wrote:i like all this constructive talk about gun control in america. it is a very difficult situation because we as a country are centered around guns..(ie: won our independance through revolutionary means, wild west american culture, hollywood action movies) its a tough cookie no doubt about how gun control might work if at all. im all for the 2nd amendment (as my beretta and rifles will vouch for me) but there should be some sort of mental evaluation of people who own guns. obviously look what happen in colorado. the guy obtained EVERYTHING completely legal. same case with the columbine shootings AND the virginia tech massacre. as stupid as this may sound i do have to aggree that arming civilians to protect themselves is an immediate and effective way to combat physcos. ill be honest although itll be weird to have many people walking with guns on their hips (as if it was the wild west which it was normal back then) but i feel that with this many people in response and a good majority of them being sane and responsible (so we'd hope...) would react in good time and with some skill and training to limit casualties. at least im speaking for myself if i witness some guy in my neighboorhood losing it and going on a rampage (which would be fairly obvious to understand whats going on) i would immediately put him down asap its a sad thing but itll save possibly a mother and daughter and maybe even my family members which live in the area... overall, yea i consider myself one of those sane sensible gun owners and i gladly would respond to any nut threatening public safety in my neighboorhood, again because if its in my area, i immediately think of my family and the chance that a murderous physco my stumble near my mom or dad or something...
You hear one shot and see one, no, two, no, thirty people with a gun and a spooky face? Who's the agressor? No time to guess as someone gets a bit too carried and begins shooting... and all in a sudden, there's a hundred stupid American shooting each other.
Would be a great way to reintroduce natural selection to the human race. We've been long overdue for that. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1661
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Posted - 2012.07.26 04:51:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Ganjjabeard wrote:i like all this constructive talk about gun control in america. it is a very difficult situation because we as a country are centered around guns..(ie: won our independance through revolutionary means, wild west american culture, hollywood action movies) its a tough cookie no doubt about how gun control might work if at all. im all for the 2nd amendment (as my beretta and rifles will vouch for me) but there should be some sort of mental evaluation of people who own guns. obviously look what happen in colorado. the guy obtained EVERYTHING completely legal. same case with the columbine shootings AND the virginia tech massacre. as stupid as this may sound i do have to aggree that arming civilians to protect themselves is an immediate and effective way to combat physcos. ill be honest although itll be weird to have many people walking with guns on their hips (as if it was the wild west which it was normal back then) but i feel that with this many people in response and a good majority of them being sane and responsible (so we'd hope...) would react in good time and with some skill and training to limit casualties. at least im speaking for myself if i witness some guy in my neighboorhood losing it and going on a rampage (which would be fairly obvious to understand whats going on) i would immediately put him down asap its a sad thing but itll save possibly a mother and daughter and maybe even my family members which live in the area... overall, yea i consider myself one of those sane sensible gun owners and i gladly would respond to any nut threatening public safety in my neighboorhood, again because if its in my area, i immediately think of my family and the chance that a murderous physco my stumble near my mom or dad or something...
You hear one shot and see one, no, two, no, thirty people with a gun and a spooky face? Who's the agressor? No time to guess as someone gets a bit too carried and begins shooting... and all in a sudden, there's a hundred stupid American shooting each other.
I built a combat course around active shooter scenarios. The course started basically with some targets in a structure (we don't have a mall or warehouse on hand) and LIVE actors would come running out of this structure in total chaos. The trainee had to fight his way down a hallway of live actors (obviously no shooting at this part of the course of fire thank you) during which he is being pushed, dragged, screamed at, and hit with (thankfully light plastic lawn) furniture. He has to get from these fleeing people a description of the "active shooter" - the target in this gauntlet.
The live actors all have bits and pieces of the actual description, all put together, but in their own words (they are not coached) and not described in certain details.
The actual targets are dressed up in old clothes, and one of those targets is "the shooter" that must be engaged.
It was very intense. But this is the training I would recommend for anyone who wants to carry a weapon. I imagine it would probably be better with paintball and live targets that actually move and shoot.
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