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Musical Fist
Gallente NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.07.02 08:51:00 -
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So since it is common knowledge that big alliances rely heavily on NAPs and Blobbing ONLY to achieve anything I think 0.0 should have a battle scenario that involves equal numbers.
I understand most alliances will be raging over the curse word known as 'equal' right about now but I am more interested in smaller alliances having a chance where skill > numbers
Anyway this is how it will be done, current sov mechanics will allow you to capture still however there will be a new method included which applies when engaging smaller coalition or being attacked by them.
Your powerblock will now actually by default be in a coalition, similar to corps being in an alliance, this is the only way blues, reds and neuts can be made and strictly for 0.0 only as it requires you to get sov (in other words without being in a powerblock you cant get sov) the reason for this is because huge 45k NAPs is æstrategyÆ therefore having powerblocks makes sense
Say an enemy wishes to capture your system, if your enemy is part of a coalition 50% or more smaller than yours he can op to attack you in a duel like scenario with 50 ships on each side MAX, a battle will occur in the system that is contested.
This battle will happen within 48hrs and the system will have 2 accel gates, 1 accessible to the attacker and 1 to the defender, once ships are at their point and the countdown is over players will see a beacon appear (visible to people who accessed the gate ONLY) from there they will attack.
The scenario will include 3 structures which deal damage, 50km apart from the beacon which must be destroyed, the HP of these structures will be determined on the opposite sides fire power, so more fire power brought in = stronger structures (in both fire power and health) this is to prevent NC laming with 50 titans, these structures can also be repaired
The objective is to kill all structures and players, anyone warping wont be able to warp back either and the accel will be locked to everyone once the fight starts, whoever wins this will keep the system.
During the 48hr timer players in the coalition will have to assign 50 people they wish to defend them, these people will only be allowed to access the accel gates, this also will be the only way big powerblocks will be able to take sov from smaller ones.
Since 0.0 NAPs cry at the littlest things I wouldnt mind seeing SOMETHING (doesnt have to be this) in 0.0 where skill determines sov, or at least have something like this in lowsec for the sake of population increase. --
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BjornarGoesToSpace
Local-Spike
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Posted - 2010.07.02 16:15:00 -
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Seems like this will add some strategy and FUN! to sov-battles. Supported.
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Lana Bird
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Posted - 2010.07.02 17:19:00 -
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lol just lol
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.07.02 17:21:00 -
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Obsession is just so, hmm... obsessive.
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Takashi Halamoto
No Limit Productions Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 17:45:00 -
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congratulations on actually having an idea this time instead of just saying you dont like something
in say lowsec for factional warfare this sounds like a good idea, and i would support it as a possible faction warfare boost/addition
BUT for 0.0
1 on a technical side the ammount of processing and admin needed to judge and control such 'duels' would be prohibitive, 0.0 only gets major server power for reinforcing for big fights, this would take so much more effort
2 if a powerblock can set reds blues etc then three small powerblocks who total more than one large powerblock could take them down by individually attacking the large powerblock setting it to red and each other neut/blue, then the system would give advantages to the three smaller blocks that are working together even though in total they had more players, that would make it unfair and would result in rules exploits using the letter to break the spirit
but 3 at its heart your still saying you want to tell all 0,0 alliances how they play the game because you dont like it, why do you feel you have the right to dictate to them
your last attempt at a post saying the big naps need to end dissapeared into obscurity with little support, do you really feel it will work any better,
Me? im just sitting here,
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2010.07.02 17:50:00 -
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No one has done it yet so I will.
Stay out of my sandbox!
/not supported!
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Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.07.02 19:07:00 -
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Go fly a kite because you're obviously not playing this game.
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Tyr Aeron
Therapy. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.03 09:25:00 -
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You talk about 'equal' & fair as if this were a game of basketball. While it is a game, it is a game with a very strong foundation in WAR & COMBAT. These are subjects I can speak on from personal experience.
Let's look at a real world scenario through your eyes for a second.....
I'm in Afghanistan on a patrol through a village when we come under small arms fire. One of my guys is able to determine that there are 4 little bastards holed up in a little building, so I tell him to grab 3 more guys, not 4 or 5 or 6, but 3, and go kill them. As they attempt to engage, 2 are killed and a third wounded because some bleeding-heart wanted war to be 'fair'.
Now, the real life version...
I'm in Afghanistan on a patrol through a village when we come under small arms fire. One of my guys is able to determine that there are 4 little bastards holed up in a little building, so I maneuver, either through side streets, use of smoke/covering fire to get close enough to put a lot of bullets and or explosives on that structure, making sure to utilize ALL the personel and assets I have at my disposal to eliminate the enemy. If I am unable to accomplish any of the above tasks for whatever reason, I will asses the potential for civialian casualties and collateral damage and if the situation warrants, I will have artillery or air support level said structure to ensure that the enemy is defeated decisively.
Combat is not fair. That's why we have saying's like 'Peace through SUPERIOR firepower', not 'Peace through fair and equal firepower.'
If you want fair then you should probably just cancel your account right now and move on with your life.
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Turdilious
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Posted - 2010.07.03 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Turdilious on 03/07/2010 09:49:18
Another Stupid Assembly Hall idea.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.03 14:59:00 -
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Oh, nice... A PvP arena as a solution.
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Domonique Molvoy
Exploitation Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.04 04:26:00 -
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We all know your bitter about it but...
No. A pvp arena system is not the way to go.
Not supported. Domonique Molvoy Shiptoasting extraordinaire |

Musical Fist
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.07.04 13:01:00 -
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To the NC bandwagon - Its obvious why you dont want a Skill > Quantity solution
To the guys comparing this to Afghanistan - GTFO! Seriously
To the guys wanting this for lowsec or something similar - Personally I dont mind this, I would be happy to see lowsec receive any buff that attracts more people but NOT in a blobby way, similar to the way WHs are.
Yes I am obsessed, bitter, mad and I guess a little hormonal but I will not stop until 0.0 is blob free! --
New NAP Coalition campaign started, want to be rich, powerful and elite?
Join 'NAP Coalition' public channel for more info
Bitter / mad, yup sounds about right |

Abuta Beki
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Posted - 2010.07.04 14:45:00 -
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Arthur McInavaderson the third: "Hello, dear Sir. I bid thou greetings. I would very much like to invade your sovereign space territory." Macintosh Denfendershire the fifth: "Boulderdash! How dare thou? I cannot allow that to happen, buggrit!" Arthur McInavaderson the third: "I do understand, dear Sir. I really do fancy your land, however." Macintosh Denfendershire the fifth: "Bloody mongrel! I will not allow that to happen. Prepare the battlefleet!" Arthur McInavaderson the third: "Dear god, no. I really do not want to engage in battle with your entire fleet, dear Sir. A fair duel shall settle this, yes? I don't have many allies, you see. Fighting on my own terms suits me much more and makes it seem as if I actually had balls. The women will fancy that, you see?" Macintosh Denfendershire the fifth: "To hell with you. Come face my armada!" Arthur McInavaderson the third: "But that is rather unfair now, isn't it? I need to have a fair chance of robbing you of your posessions and land, now don't I?" Macintosh Denfendershire the fifth: "No, you don't. Of course it is unfair, you bloody degenerate inbred. Not being fair is the whole point about warfare!"  Arthur McInavaderson the third: "Can I have some cheese with my whine?" 
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.04 14:59:00 -
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Supporting this. Also, supporting 40-man raids.
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