| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Rawblin
Caldari
Costolle Military Assistance Corporation
   |
Posted - 2010.07.03 07:06:00 -
[1]
I'm wondering if the easier to use method of setting up Transiting Routes has a negative impact somewhere along the way with PI. In particular, if it doesn't act as a buffer, and so loses any excess material.
For example;
5 Extractors -> 1 Storage Facility -> 1 Processor
The extractors are linked to the storage facility, and the storage facility is linked to the processor. The extractors are routed however, straight to the processor. The storage facility shows "Transiting" routes when selected. I know that the material from the extractors gets to the processor without a problem.
I'm just wondering if excess material will be stored in the storage facility once the processor has a cycle going, and then fills up the queue for the next cycle?
--------------------
Not in cruelty,
Not in wrath,
The Reaper came today,
An Angel visited,
This gray path,
And took the cake away. |
Tethraa KaiSuun
Caldari
KaiSuun Industries
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 07:14:00 -
[2]
As far as I have read, you should never route your extractors directly to a processor. If the rate of your extraction exceeds the input requirements of the processor, than the remainder simply goes away. Although, I could be wrong. I have never mapped extractors directly to a processor myself.
Transitive just means the pin is acting as part of the route. This means if you delete the storage facility, the routes that the Storage Facility was transitive to are automatically destroyed.
~~ Tethraa KaiSuun |
Rawblin
Caldari
Costolle Military Assistance Corporation
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 07:21:00 -
[3]
Ok, so I can confirm now that the transiting routes simply nomnomnom all of the excess materials instead of storing them in the storage facility that it buffers through (who designed PI? Good lord.).
My next question then; After routing all materials from the extractors to the storage facility... do I need to wait for a cycle (so the storage facility has something in it) to then create a route from the storage to the processor?
Currently, clicking "Create Route" on the storage facility storage tab does nadda.
--------------------
Not in cruelty,
Not in wrath,
The Reaper came today,
An Angel visited,
This gray path,
And took the cake away. |
Tethraa KaiSuun
Caldari
KaiSuun Industries
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 07:32:00 -
[4]
Yes, typically, I will do the following to setup:
- Setup all the pins and links
- Start up all the extractors on the 30 minute or 5 hour timer. This way you don't have to wait 30 minutes before the last step.
- While starting up the extractors, route the extractors to the container. In my case I use a launchpad. It holds more and shuttles the stuff out to space.
- Setup the processor to whatever I want it to build. While doing so, route the result of the processor back to the container.
- After the first extractor cycle, route the raw material to your processor(s). As soon as you submit, your processors will begin to go to work.
~~ Tethraa KaiSuun |
Tau Cabalander
Caldari
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 07:37:00 -
[5]
Don't use a storage facility. Use a spaceport.
Route all extractors to the spaceport. Route to processors from spaceport. Route from processor to spaceport.
This prevents waste, and will act as a buffer between extractor cycles.
|
Ulviirala Vauryndar
Gallente
Vauryndar Dalharil
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 11:16:00 -
[6]
Of course if you route 3100 units every 30 minutes to a processor, it will discard 100 units each time, but you can specify to only route 3000 units to the processor and route the remainder somewhere else. But that's a lot of work as extraction rates can vary by a few units per cycle when you restart the extractor.
|
Tal Serrath
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 11:33:00 -
[7]
Route your extractors to each other, In high sec you can run 3-5 extractors per link "5 hour cycles" and only run 1 line to the launchpad, This saved me enough power grid and cpu to lay down 2-3 extra extractors.
You can also run 2-3 processors off a level 1 link so instead of linking each processor to the launchpad run them in chains.
|
Gavin DeVries
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 11:39:00 -
[8]
Here's how I've done my last two (both producing P2):
Set up all extractors, launch pads, industry facilities, and links.
Start extractors on whatever cycle is to be used. This creates "Product" listed on the extractors.
Set schematics on industry facilities. This creates the items it will accept for input.
Route all extractors to the closest launch pad (I've used two in my recent colonies, one near each cluster of extractors, so I don't have to upgrade the loooooooong link).
At each launch pad, pick one of the incoming raw materials, and route it out to each basic industry facility that's using the raw material.
At each basic industry facility, choose the processed material and route it out to the advanced industry facility.
At the AIF, route the refined commodity back to the launch pad.
As soon as I've installed the extractor's chosen cycle, the product is listed and can be routed. It can't be routed to a BIF until a schematic is installed that used that product. I've done all of this well before the first extractor cycle is completed. The only issue I've found is on the planet where I've got really good yields and am running double (240 units a day from 2 AIFs/4 BIFs); the first BIF goes into product and then fills its buffer before the second one starts working.
______________________________________________________
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Footoo Rama
Gallente
Cast-a-Ways.
|
Posted - 2010.07.03 23:53:00 -
[9]
You have to route to the storage then to a processor. If you just route through it will not store anything.
-------
"Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Lord Grimmas
Azure Freelancers
|
Posted - 2010.07.04 01:08:00 -
[10]
 Originally by: Tethraa KaiSuun
- After the first extractor cycle, route the raw material to your processor(s). As soon as you submit, your processors will begin to go to work.
No need to wait a cycle; you can immediately set up the route from launchpad to processor once you setup a route from extractor to launchpad.
|
Estimated Prophet
|
Posted - 2010.07.04 02:23:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Rawblin
My next question then; After routing all materials from the extractors to the storage facility... do I need to wait for a cycle (so the storage facility has something in it) to then create a route from the storage to the processor?
You should be able to click on the routes button (looks like two arrows coming in and one going out), select an incoming route and create a route to your processor without having to wait for your extractors.
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |