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TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.08 20:41:00 - [31] Dear ccp, you obviously don't love the game you code anymore. And thus will never listen to players. You basicly admitted csm is worthless and just some sort of gimmick when ankh went public about csm being worthless and you booting her off. Just admit the fact that you don't care. _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.07.08 20:46:00 - [32] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Dear ccp, you obviously don't love the game you code anymore. And thus will never listen to players. You basicly admitted csm is worthless and just some sort of gimmick when ankh went public about csm being worthless and you booting her off. Just admit the fact that you don't care. HAHAHA best part about this is you were crying about it in corp and got trolled with the information, why not actually do research before clicking reply dumbass -- New NAP Coalition campaign started, want to be rich, powerful and elite? Join 'NAP Coalition' public channel for more info Bitter / mad, yup sounds about right
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.08 20:52:00 - [33] Wait, what, how does that have anything to do with the quote. It seriously was awful in o-w, 400 in system, and the node was utterly bricked, hell even local stopped working. _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
David Grogan Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.08 20:58:00 - [34] Originally by: Bagrista Problem is, fixing bugs doesn't sell. You can't put an advertisement online that says "the new eve expansion - we finally fixed **** that was broken for the last four years!". That doesn't lure in new players. no but it might entice back the many players that quit this game due to the unfixed bugs SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P
Ashlore Big Guns Inc. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.08 21:22:00 - [35] "We are experiencing server problems in this system. We need to make some maintenance in order to get this fixed. You may experience some disconnects for the next 10 minutes. We are sorry for this incontinence." When i finally gets in i get kicked __________________________________________________ (\__/) (='.'=) (")__(")
Astal Atlar Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.08 21:56:00 - [36] Before dominion we were able ot have fun fights now it is **ed up to hell Why is all this testing and nothing changing only pve ** for carebears 0-w promised to be fun today but the lag ruined it! our first undock black screen for 5 min,before you even lock,2 undock a little bit better we start taking upper hand on enemies they bridge some pl reinforsments system go to 400 and the hell break again, remote reppers set on manual don't cycle, locking a bs instead of 2 sec took you 1 min if it even happen. And the best part people coming home trying to lock receive black screen and message for heavy congestion and lag in system and to wait funny.... And the top was after about 2 hours ccp restarted the node with nothing happening at the moment pretty cool guys pretty cool Honestly love the game almost 4 years already but with all those mmorpg offering free fast and no lag pvp I start to thinking it over.I example : guild wars - fun pvp no lag and no montly taxes but hell i still love eve..
Kaalyx Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.08 22:46:00 - [37] Sure, shiney new things can bring in new players but so can a bunch of players repeatedly hyped over fantastic game play. "OMG I just had the coolest 200 v 200 fleet battle with NO lag it was epic!!!" said to a bunch of friends online and they sign up to experience it as well, plus your player base is happy and not leaving. it's not like improving the lag and server performance wouldn't help those all important empire-bears- c/d CCP??? Today was a joke. maybe if all of 0.0 invaded empire for a week or two during the slow summer they would start screaming too... oh to dream. Right now Eve's only fleet strategy- be on grid first and win fights. awesome fun for the whole family!!! Pathetic CCP... truly pathetic
Mr Blue Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.07.08 23:10:00 - [38] hi atlas
Kephael Caldari SERENDIPITY INC R-I-P	Posted - 2010.07.08 23:13:00 - [39] Edited by: Kephael on 08/07/2010 23:13:10 Capital ships are for running sanctums maaan, put your dreads away and let's frolic in Atlas Renter space in anomalies. Free love and isk maaan, no lag here. __________________________________________
Messoroz	Posted - 2010.07.08 23:13:00 - [40] Originally by: Kaalyx Today was a joke. maybe if all of 0.0 invaded empire for a week or two during the slow summer they would start screaming too... oh to dream. No seriously, I said the same idea before in threads, it would really push CCP to fix it, cause what are they going to do? Ban those being in hisec?

HarrietMiers I'M ON A BOAT	Posted - 2010.07.09 02:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Musical Fist :lolatlas: How have you not been banned? Post with your main or gtfo. Also, hey ccp - great game. Now fix it.
treetopx Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.09 06:12:00 - [42] Originally by: Every expansion is more disapointing than the prior, Why don't CCP hear the playerbase and stop releasing new stuff? just fix the servers and let us play.[/quote I agree with topic. Eve used to be fun. -Treetop
Caldrion Dosto Svea Rike Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.07.09 06:44:00 - [43] Originally by: treetopx Originally by: Every expansion is more disapointing than the prior, Why don't CCP hear the playerbase and stop releasing new stuff? just fix the servers and let us play.[/quote I agree with topic. Eve used to be fun. /signed Fix the crap thats broken before shiny new "features"...
Emma Royd Caldari Maddled Gommerils	Posted - 2010.07.09 06:50:00 - [44] Unfortunately unless players leave in huge numbers CCP won't do jack. Sad but true, they want people to move to 0.0 but the infrastructure can't cope with big numbers in systems, and while ever the player base keep increasing then they are happy. I've been playing since mid 2006, and the numbers have steadily been increasing since then, but over the last few months they seem to have shot up. What I would like to see is figures that mean something instead of just players logged in, how many players logged in are over a year old etc, what's the average lifespan of a player, do they play for the trial, maybe a couple of months more, and then quit because it's obvious ccp only really care about your dollarpounds I'm a quite happy empire dweller at the moment, was toying with the idea of moving back to 0.0 but reading many forum complaints about lag, not being able to log in etc, I think I'll hang fire on the move, what's the point in paying when as soon as the system gets busy you can't do anything +_+ Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
Gama24 EXTERMINATUS. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.09 07:14:00 - [45] Rabble!! Rabble, rabble!! g24
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.09 14:39:00 - [46] I love the idea of actually being able to play in a 400 man + battle. Rather than this "drop drones, lag out the enemy" crap that seems to be the win button at the moment. I'd say all of 0.0 should just go sit in jita 24/7 or every system in the forge and lag it to kingdom come but there's no way people would be that organise\trusting\not rush off to smack peoples stuff that's being left idle. Eve is unique in it's pvp nature and that's what sells it to people. Stop ****ing around with that and make it work properly because "ZOMFG UBER AWESOME PVP GAME!!!" sells better than farmville, facebook, look shiny new content which will attract people for a short period. As far as stats go, I want to see number of people logged in, age of players logged in, population density logged in, age of character before cancelation, etc. Do that as some nice line graphs and it might actually tell us something. -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.07.09 14:57:00 - [47] Originally by: TheBlueMonkey I'd say all of 0.0 should just go sit in jita 24/7 or every system in the forge and lag it to kingdom come but there's no way people would be that organise\trusting\not rush off to smack peoples stuff that's being left idle. AFAIK there have been plans to do exactly this, but CCP said it would be viewed as a deliberate attempt at DoS and the responsible and/or participating parties would be banned.
Yarton Killmore	Posted - 2010.07.09 14:59:00 - [48] just out of interest how may of the people complaining about this have logged into the test server to help resolve the issue? (during the mass tests) The last one we had about 400 for the test... 200 on each side, so where is everyone during these tests???
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.09 17:44:00 - [49] Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 09/07/2010 17:46:23 Originally by: Yarton Killmore just out of interest how may of the people complaining about this have logged into the test server to help resolve the issue? (during the mass tests) The last one we had about 400 for the test... 200 on each side, so where is everyone during these tests??? Do you mean the tests that lead to this blog here? Currently being discussed in this thread here? The test that have helped them identify some client issues that have absolutely nothing to do with the server side issues we've been experiencing for going on 8 months? In fact they clearly state in the blog that there is nothing regarding progress for any 'alleged' server side issues. Are those the tests your talking about? The tests where I pay CCP for a game that doesn't work and then have people like you complain when I'M NOT FIXING THE PROBLEM? Yeah, about that..... Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Originally by: TheBlueMonkey I'd say all of 0.0 should just go sit in jita 24/7 or every system in the forge and lag it to kingdom come but there's no way people would be that organise\trusting\not rush off to smack peoples stuff that's being left idle. AFAIK there have been plans to do exactly this, but CCP said it would be viewed as a deliberate attempt at DoS and the responsible and/or participating parties would be banned. I'll have to call bs on that unless you can provide me some evidence. And in the case you find that... I may actually go quit the game over it because... WOW. 0.0 players get banned for coming to empire because ccp wants them to stfu? sounds a little over the top. (no you can't have my stuff) -- A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game.
Cire XIII Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:16:00 - [50] Originally by: Yarton Killmore just out of interest how may of the people complaining about this have logged into the test server to help resolve the issue? (during the mass tests) The last one we had about 400 for the test... 200 on each side, so where is everyone during these tests??? I did for the first few months. It was fun for a while meeting up with pilots I have flown against, but they quickly became a hassle when they conflicted with operations on TQ as well as real life. Frustrating is the word I would use to describe the mass tests. I have not checked on them recently, but the first few months were unimpressive and burned me out. I may check back on them if I find myself with free time.

Yarton Killmore	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:41:00 - [51] ok apart from the one 14 year old with emo rage, surly most other people must realise that in order to fix a problem a programmer needs to recreate the issue... to ask another question how many alliences use the "fight gonna happen" form? I see thread after thread complaining about lag, but I get the distinct impression that there is very litle assistance going to ccp on this issue. and yes you pay a monthly fee for the game but it is not a requirement, you could just quit... but then 1 less would prob help the lag a little bit :p
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:52:00 - [52] Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 09/07/2010 18:52:45 Originally by: Yarton Killmore ok apart from the one 14 year old with emo rage, surly most other people must realise that in order to fix a problem a programmer needs to recreate the issue... to ask another question how many alliences use the "fight gonna happen" form? I see thread after thread complaining about lag, but I get the distinct impression that there is very litle assistance going to ccp on this issue. and yes you pay a monthly fee for the game but it is not a requirement, you could just quit... but then 1 less would prob help the lag a little bit :p i would assume your snide comment is directed at me? first, if you knew ANYTHING about the issues being experienced, you would know that the server issues are happening to both large and small numbers of gangs. For instance, 30-40 man gangs do not fill out "fight gonna happen" forms (btw it's called a Fleet Fight Notification Form). CCP has themselves acknowledge that this would be silly and counter productive. Second, we all understand what you are saying, what you aren't understanding is that for many, it's *absurd* to pay for a service and expect to provide it at the same time. I do lot's of troubleshooting and overtime helping to solve problems, it's called "when I go to work". I happen to be a very busy 14 year old with emo rage. I have a full time job, a house to tend to and family. My anger is not emo rage nor is it misdirected. If I pay 100's of $$ a year to be able to play a game in my free time (play it, not troubleshoot it for it's developers) I have every right to be upset when it consistently doesn't work. Even more so when it doesn't work for the better part of a year. And then we get dev blogs telling us crap we knew months ago like it's late breaking news... but the punch line is it's all about the client not the server. They haven't even gotten around to TALKING about their server performance issues! It's not like CCP is refunding money for a broken product, they continue to take our subscriptions... I'm not sure how you justify making them the victim in this scenario? But sure, as you were saying..... -- A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game.
Amorettea	Posted - 2010.07.09 18:56:00 - [53] The fleet fight notification is dumb now. The new dominion mechanics revolve around short timers. 3 hour SBU online, 8 hour TCU online. Except for reinforcement timers, all of these mechanics require same day spontaneous fleet form-ups. The fleet fight notification requires a day in advance notice.
Yarton Killmore	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:04:00 - [54] in that case you really should take my last comment, quit... i have the same things in life, house, family, car ect ect. But then as a programmer i guess I look at it in a different way. besides it really sounds like your fun is gone so you should quit. as for the CCP dosent care bit (further up) clearly they do, they care most about where there money is coming from, what is the population of null sec over low and highsec? (genuine question) on the other note why would they care as long as they are still being paid? the more features they bring in the more they can advertise them and get more people paying, fixing old issues is never going to be a priority as long as you get more people paying, besides im sure a lot of the older players pay with plex these days anyway?
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.09 19:18:00 - [55] Originally by: Yarton Killmore you should quit. excellent suggestion. ccp's upset customer's should quit as opposed to voicing their opinion on the game forums you may be more right than you know actually... Originally by: Yarton Killmore as for the CCP dosent care bit (further up) clearly they do, they care most about where there money is coming from, what is the population of null sec over low and highsec? (genuine question) caring, and caring enough to do something about it is two different things. Originally by: Yarton Killmore on the other note why would they care as long as they are still being paid? the more features they bring in the more they can advertise them and get more people paying, fixing old issues is never going to be a priority as long as you get more people paying, besides im sure a lot of the older players pay with plex these days anyway? you make MANY assumptions that are just silly. while there are plenty of players that pay with plex (young and old) it is far from any type of majority. They as a company will focus on what makes them money. I think that was the sentence you were looking for. If your game is nigh unplayable for a significant part of the population, no amount of advertising is going to give you a healthy long term outlook. You can bring in people short term all you want, but if your product is viewed as crap, your going to start seeing less and less repeat customers. Now, we can look at it as a cold dollars/cents approach (which is one, valid, part of the argument) There is also those of us (crazy crazy people) that feel ccp owes us something. Years of subscriptions and word of mouth put them where they are. Whether you like it or not the game was literally built on the back of the ye olde guard players. And whether you or ccp likes to acknowledge it, the future of the game will continue to depend on a positive reception by the players. So if the only way CCP is going to realize they need to make their existing issues a priority is by us leaving and them failing so be it (like i said, you may be more right than you know) However until then I'm going to be ****ed and complain per usual and hope they actually fix it and give me a product i'm happy with. I'm not really sure what YOUR point is? Except that people should not complain and just quit unless they are helping fix the issue? Also, that this is a business and we should stfu? That about sum you up? You must be a troll, no one can be that stupid. -- A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game.


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