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bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.14 23:56:00 - [1] Hey All, So i was wondering what would be a good minmatar/gallente ship to catch T1 and T2 frigs and blast them Especially after they steal from my mission wrecks hehe
Iqelrius Caldari Masaryk II	Posted - 2010.07.14 23:59:00 - [2] Huginn? Lachesis? Bonus to web range or warp disruptor range sounds like frigate hunting.
bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.15 00:10:00 - [3] Originally by: Iqelrius Huginn? Lachesis? Bonus to web range or warp disruptor range sounds like frigate hunting. Hmm yeah and scare them by de-cloaking right next to them
Footoo Rama Gallente Cast-a-Ways.	Posted - 2010.07.15 00:13:00 - [4] Ishkur, point fitted nemesis... cross train minmatar and get the drameil ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.15 00:32:00 - [5] Lets say i loose that ship, which one is the not so heavy loss on the wallet?
Footoo Rama Gallente Cast-a-Ways.	Posted - 2010.07.15 00:40:00 - [6] Edited by: Footoo Rama on 15/07/2010 00:40:46 Originally by: bladeproject Lets say i loose that ship, which one is the not so heavy loss on the wallet? Well... depends on what you want to do... Your really going to need a t2 ship... although if you are concerned about ninja salvagers.... Put a point/web on your missioning BS. they really will not expect it. Also make sure you lock them before you go to refit so they are not worried when you comeback. Use drones to kill them. Then dock as you will have a 15 minute timer that their corp mates can come and kill you. Although remember that you will need to have agro first. if they are just salvaging.. then no dice, if they loot then you can hit them. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
Rasquel Aura of Darkness Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.07.15 00:46:00 - [7] Originally by: bladeproject Originally by: Iqelrius Huginn? Lachesis? Bonus to web range or warp disruptor range sounds like frigate hunting. Hmm yeah and scare them by de-cloaking right next to them Neither of those ships fit cloaks.
Felix Esperium Lysergic Distortions Research and Development	Posted - 2010.07.15 00:58:00 - [8] well they could...but yea.
bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.15 02:00:00 - [9] My original plan was to have my second character sit in the mission room in a cloaked ship and should they steal. BOOM
Valoric Liao Gallente Ethos Mining and Logistics	Posted - 2010.07.15 02:10:00 - [10] Originally by: bladeproject Lets say i loose that ship, which one is the not so heavy loss on the wallet? Ishkur should be less than half the price than a Dram, but this is one of those cases where you get what you pay for. The Ishkur is a great ship in it's own right, with great DPS, but if your focus is catching small, fast, ships, the Dramiel has the pure speed you need with a goodly amount of DPS as well. Just expect to pay 70mil for the hull alone. Eve For Fun! - I've decided to start trying new things in Eve, starting with Hulkageddon III.

bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.15 02:45:00 - [11] Guys what about a HAC class ship?
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.07.15 03:56:00 - [12] Originally by: bladeproject Guys what about a HAC class ship? Er, hacs are 100+ mil. You're talking about a ninjasalvaging ship. It's not going to have armaments, unless it's my pimped fleet stabber in which case it has some drones and that's it. For 99% of cases a t1 frigate will do.
bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.15 04:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Originally by: bladeproject Guys what about a HAC class ship? Er, hacs are 100+ mil. You're talking about a ninjasalvaging ship. It's not going to have armaments, unless it's my pimped fleet stabber in which case it has some drones and that's it. For 99% of cases a t1 frigate will do. Good point. Although my wallet can handle loosing an Ishkur here and there. Might use that for the hunt
Fumitsugu Sylwia Guristech	Posted - 2010.07.15 06:24:00 - [14] Thrasher>Ishkur
ShahFluffers Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.07.15 07:12:00 - [15] Dramiel and/or Crusader. Both are fast as hell and both put out frigate-killing DPS. /thread. _______________________ "Just because I look like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
Pascal Almaric Perkone	Posted - 2010.07.15 08:33:00 - [16] If we're talking about an unarmed ninja salvager, killing is no problem but catching might be. A Vigil could kill them, it's pretty quick for catching them, and it's got the 3 mids for AB/point/web. Stiletto/Ares is similar but the long range point could be a plus.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.15 12:19:00 - [17] Edited by: Furb Killer on 15/07/2010 12:21:36 AML caracal. Yes not the race you asked for, but it is pretty much the best anti frig ship in game, granted not that good in catching them, but since caracals got kinda a carebear aura around them they are often underestimated. NEVER fit a point/web on your mission BS. NEVER even consider using it to attack a pvp ship. It is about the stupidest thing you can do in eve. Quote: point fitted nemesis/hound... Considering also your other ideas i assume you are just trolling, but this is tied with using your mission bs in pvp for worst idea ever. Anti frig work in high sec with a bomber? Wut? OP is obviously not that experienced in pvp. It just doesnt make sense to advice him an expensive dramiel or an interceptor that requires quite some practise.
Seith Silverstein Something Rotten	Posted - 2010.07.15 13:46:00 - [18] Well there are a few problems here: 1. You shouldn't kill them in your mission BS. It will just end poorly. Fitting a point kills your tank, and shooting him to get him off the field just gets him aggro'd to you. Then he goes and gets a bigger ship and lands on your mission ship and kills you. This is what he wants you to do. 2. Warping out will do two nifty things. First, he will get mission aggro, so that'll probably force him out of the pocket anyway. Second, you can get a ship designed to kill his. Killing him really doesn't do much good though, as again he'll then have aggro towards you. You'll have to wait for 15 minutes in station before you can go back out and finish your mission, or he'll go grab a Neut 'Phoon/'Geddon/'Thron and eat you alive. In response to a few other posts: Lachesis/Huginn are great frigate killers... but to take out a ninja salvager? Overkill. Ishkur/AM Caracal would be great choices, if you're sure you want to aggro him. Shooting him will not let his corp attack you, but they can always warp in to remote repair him without consequences. Shooting him will allow him to attack you freely for the next 15 minutes in whatever ship he desires. Here's the big key: Since the loot nerf, all the good money is in the salvage. If he's salvaging your wrecks, either live with it or warp out and hope the mission kills him. Nothing you can do. If he's stealing from your wrecks, it's not to make money. The money isn't there anymore. He's trying to get you to shoot at him so he can go get a bigger ship, come back, and kill your expensive mission ship. Originally by: CCP Soundwave I am literally the internet
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation	Posted - 2010.07.15 20:11:00 - [19] Originally by: Pascal Almaric Edited by: Pascal Almaric on 15/07/2010 09:35:37 Edited by: Pascal Almaric on 15/07/2010 08:57:36 If we're talking about an unarmed ninja salvager, killing is no problem but catching might be. A Vigil could kill them, it's pretty quick for catching them, and it's got the 3 mids for AB/point/web. Stiletto/Ares is similar but the long range point could be a plus. You could also use a stealth bomber to tackle them (no targeting delay on decloak) and kill them with the mission ship. However, if somebody steals from your mission wreck instead of just salvaging then there's a very good chance he's not just a salvager, he's bait/tackle and may be a PvP fit with one salvager for appearances. So if you're going to do this, you want your mission ship already in warp to dock when you aggress. And use a destroyer (despite the reduced chance of catching them) to kill them quickly and get out before their backup arrives. If they steal from you and you aggress only the individual thief can attack you. If they steal from you and you are in a PC corp they get aggro to your entire corporation which means that the PVP fit alt can attack them and your valuable mission ship remains safely protected by the threat of concordorken.
Mar Lee An Army of None	Posted - 2010.07.15 21:11:00 - [20] Rapier. Web bonuses, drones, a cloak for the surprise factor. Let me reiterate the advice above. Do NOT fit a web and point to your mission ship. Not only will it gimp your mission fit, but if you aggro the loot thief in your mission ship, he will come back in a pvp ship and pwn you.

SirRalph Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.07.15 22:47:00 - [21] Originally by: bladeproject Hey All, So i was wondering what would be a good minmatar/gallente ship to catch T1 and T2 frigs and blast them Especially after they steal from my mission wrecks hehe Stabber with scrambler, loaded with little nanos at lows. Cheap and highly efficient, use overheat to catch noob dramiels.
bladeproject	Posted - 2010.07.16 01:12:00 - [22] Oh some nice advice here. Love it But just to make it clear. There is no way I was even considering to put a point/web on the mission BS that is not smart unless your are ready to loose it. As i mentioned before. I will be using my alt to catch the ninja. Even if they try to bait me and get me to aggro them so then they can come back with a better PVP vessel. I don't care cos my main that is running the mission is safe still. Loosing an Ishkur here and there is ok with me. At least its fun. Whats stopping me from docking my alt once the job is done and wait it out like a little sissy hahaha im ok with that And I am well aware of the bait tactics people employ to get a shot at the mission BS.
Penjual Sayur	Posted - 2010.07.16 05:19:00 - [23] You want cheap, cant go wrong with the rifter.


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