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Steeley
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:02:00 -
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Hey,
I have an alt account where i run level 4 missions in a Navy Raven. I was thinking of bringing my main account along to speed things up even more.
This secondary ship wont need any tank at all so its just gonna be 100% dps. What battleship would be the best for this. preferably along the amarr side of things.
I was thinking geddon though im open to suggestions.
my appologies for the noobishness of this question. I have been away from eve for too long to remember everything :)
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Shebeth
Caldari TABOU and co. Argos council
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:21:00 -
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i am using 2 account too, and my main is a CNR too.
Second account is a legion, really usefull to kill cruiser, freg and assist for battleship. U cant have 2 missiles account, as it will be really hard to manage the volley to dont waste missiles.
I tried also paladin+cnr, and even if he has from far more absolute dps, i was slower, legion is a great help to annihilate cruiseur/freg in a second, and oblitarate mission very quickly.
U will also need some tank on this second account, there is plenty of mission with multiple triggers with random aggro, warp out/warp in will be be a great waste a time that u will not recover with a 4th and 5th heat sink.
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Steeley
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:45:00 -
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I totaly agree with there being no point in having 2 missile accounts and with having a tank on it. Didnt really think about it propperly and what you said makes a lot of sense.
I agree with the idea of having something to kill the smaller ships (cruisers/frigs) quicker. Also fits in with my idea of going to loot and salvage while the CNR finishes of the BS's.
im just trying to think of ways I can get through missions, loot and salvage the quickest. previously ive just the CNR killing while i loot and salvage on the other account.
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CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:47:00 -
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Edited by: CanI haveyourstuff on 15/07/2010 05:49:53 armor tanked Ishtar is good assist for your CNR, drop t2 heavys or sentrys and put them on assist. Or take some t2 smalls and put em on guard @ cnr.
meanwhile you wtfpwnbbq crap out of battleships, your alt ishtar annihilates rest of the smaller stuff.
But be careful with drones these days.. many ninjasalvagers like to exploit them.
I personally do cnr + catalyst salvager.... in many missions you have spawn triggers and fleet aggro... sometimes my alt drones died and I even didnt notice. It's just disturbing and sometimes wastes alot of time when managing two clients.
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Steeley
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Posted - 2010.07.15 06:13:00 -
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Yeah, thats why i wanted to stay away from drones on my second account which rules gallente out instantly. too much attention needed to make sure drones on both sides arent getting shot.
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JitaArse
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Posted - 2010.07.15 07:59:00 -
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fit you cnr with fofs and tank missions with main. :) and amarr have some damage type issues.
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Dar Wento
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:40:00 -
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Hello,
I know you said Amarr side of things, but IF you have the skills for it I can recommend using a Domi/Navy Domi as your sidekick.
I'm personally using a CNR as the main damage dealer and a Navy Domi fitted with T2 Gardes, Remote sensor booster, Large energy transfer array etc. The CNR has a Remote armour repairer in the utility slot incl two Target painters.
With this setup I don't have to worry about where the incoming damage is coming from or how much. I can aggro a full room on all level 4 missions and tank it out while melting the NPCs very rapidly. Simply assign the T2 sentry drones to the CNR and then you will use the CNR as firing-control.
This might not be the optimal setup for some people, but I dualbox missions just to get things done quicker and my fittings works splendid for me.
/Dar.
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Shebeth
Caldari TABOU and co. Argos council
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Posted - 2010.07.15 10:38:00 -
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Keep in mind that micro managing 2 account is not a big deal, after some week of train the alt-tab every 2 seconds will become really instinctive. I guess a drone boat would be a good idea for a 3th account.
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Jabru
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:07:00 -
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I use a mael and CNR for missioning. both are pretty spanky in terms of dps. and since both are shield tanked i dont need to worry bout losing tank or having a dedicated tanking boat..i did have a rattlesnake but found the dps output wasnt worth the price tag for a level 4 (it was going to be used for tanking level 5s' just i just missed out level5 high sec whorage) so i sold it and got a CNR instead.
But yeh a 3rd character should be something like an istar because of its speed and tractor beam and you can forget bout it and concentrate on your main 2. Or have something like a salvage hurricane to clean up afterwards
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Azreal Jonson
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Posted - 2010.07.15 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jabru I use a mael and CNR for missioning. both are pretty spanky in terms of dps. and since both are shield tanked i dont need to worry bout losing tank or having a dedicated tanking boat..i did have a rattlesnake but found the dps output wasnt worth the price tag for a level 4 (it was going to be used for tanking level 5s' just i just missed out level5 high sec whorage) so i sold it and got a CNR instead.
But yeh a 3rd character should be something like an istar because of its speed and tractor beam and you can forget bout it and concentrate on your main 2. Or have something like a salvage hurricane to clean up afterwards
This is pretty much what I plan to do. Except with a Vargur and Nighthawk. Passive tank should make it somewhat easier to learn than pulsing an active tank. Then I might put my indy alt in an Ishkur for that little extra and Ishtar's are ugly as ass.
Also, and I hate to go off topic, but what about level 5's? I assumed you can still do them in high-sec if you found an agent one jump into low-sec. Was that changed? :/
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Minion I
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Posted - 2010.07.15 16:32:00 -
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i recently asked a similar question on the forums everyone told me to go with dominix so i did. im glad i did coz its just fantastic to use against everything. long and short sentries fire when npcs are about 60km to 30km if anything get closer than that it gets webbed by my kronos down to -90% speed (20m/s to most BSs) then painted by my domi and the sentries still hit the damn thing. my sentries have killed frigs at 11km using this method :) and theres nothing better than seeing 10 hobgoblins on one spider drone. if your so worried about drones use tech 1s i assure you everything will still melt. domi also has good tank and room for some nice utilities (i keep shield armor and hull reps for drones so i can keep tech2s alive and also to rep kronos.) hugely effective and i havent lost a drone yet.
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RentableMuffin
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Posted - 2010.07.15 18:43:00 -
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domi is a complete ****ing waste of a 2nd account.
legion, not a bad idea, but with 10x light drones figs really shouldn't be any worry (did I mention turrets will vaporize frigs at range with lowish transversial), and cruisers will vaporize to a turret bs, or rigor raven anyways.
I would use an abaddon, or even better a nightmare!
sure a geddon would work too, but <3 abaddons
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Steeley
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Posted - 2010.07.15 22:50:00 -
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Hey,
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm planning on sticking to the amarr or mini side as this is the way im skilled. I think legion might be a bit overkill for what im thinking althought if i had to choose. Loki or legion for the use im looking at using it for?
I'm thinking more battlecruiser now. Cane or harby?
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Anddeh McNab
Matari Department of Gun Control
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Posted - 2010.07.16 07:50:00 -
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You can get some not too bad DPS out of a Loki, for level 4's anyway and the web subsystem (Immobility Drivers iirc) can help taking them frigs down nice and quick. But then there's the not so friendly pricetag.
With regard to a BC; 'cane would seem the obvious choice but it can be a bit of a glass cannon so if the excrement does hit the rotating device then you might be in a spot of bother. However, BC hulls might not be a bad idea in general. Command Ships can pack some decent welly while retaining a decent tank. Plus you can stick a gang-link on there. Well that's what I plan to do with my alt in a Nighthawk, evetually.
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RentableMuffin
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Posted - 2010.07.16 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Steeley Hey,
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm planning on sticking to the amarr or mini side as this is the way im skilled. I think legion might be a bit overkill for what im thinking althought if i had to choose. Loki or legion for the use im looking at using it for?
I'm thinking more battlecruiser now. Cane or harby?
not really sure but I slightly favor the legion as optimal > falloff and the dps is pretty similar, however the damage variability might make a difference, although shooting at frigs/cruisers it shouldn't make too much of a difference.
I flew raven + harbinger a while back, worked pretty well, raven starts on the big stuff, harby starts on the small stuff, the cane may or may not be better I've never flown it for pve.
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