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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.07.17 20:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Stroh Blatz
I already told you pal......its too crowded.
That's not a good reason, mainly since it's not actually true.
àand your way of determining whether it is, is methodologically unsound anyway.
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.17 20:55:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Stroh Blatz
Originally by: Ressiv
Originally by: Stroh Blatz
I have maxed skills for inventing and copying etc and I do most of it in L O W S E C.
Then what is your concern exactly with highsec build ques ?
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EVE needs more regions.
You didnt give a good reason yet, just an oppinion ... and those are like a-holes ... everybody got one.
I already told you pal......its too crowded.
The last research I dropped in low sec will give me a 36 day wait....thats crap!
And no, I'm not moving, because I dont want to. 
You are clearly either a troll, or a complete and utter failure. if you really do operate in L O W S E C then your research/invention/build queues should be non-existant because.... you can plant a pos and use it to your hearts content for everything from research to production, but your pseudohardass L O W S E C PEEVEEPEEurrrr want to shake in his boots and use highsec. Well get in queue a lot of carebears want to do the same thing, and yup you are a carebear.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.07.17 20:56:00 -
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Ungh, I don't even know where to begin...
First off, the OP starts by complaining that highsec manufacture lines are overcrowded... which is by the way patently false, there are plenty of highsec manufacture stations with truckloads of manufacture lines free most of the time.
Then, he starts talking trash to everybody that told him he's talking crap by claiming he has maxed-out copy/invent skills and that he's doing most of it in lowsec... which implies he was thinking he was talking about lab research queues, completely different from what he said in his opening statement, namely "build queues", or in other words, manufacture.
From that we conclude that he's either quite bad at picking the right words to express his views, or he's backpedaling due to realizing just how much of a brainfart he poofed in here before.
After being called out for the disconnect between what was implied in the OP and his second post, he resorts to insults and not much else.
In his fourth post, he keeps completely ignoring the wrong wording of the OP, not even giving it a second thought, and instead keeps yapping about lowsec research waiting times, when everybody until now was actually talking about manufacture slots.
The next poster calls his attention to the fact most people use research POSes to do research instead of relying on NPC slots... and I have to agree with him.
The OP still has to respond to that.
TL;DR : OP is either trolling or a moron.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.07.17 20:56:00 -
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Ship toasting tap cropics seems to be a speciality of this guy.
Anyway, empire is only to crowded in and near large mission and trade hubs. Stay near them and you only have yourself to blame. Plenty of remote empire regions where you can say dumb things in local all day and noone will here you.
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.17 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Ungh, I don't even know where to begin...
Well I already started, but as a follow up I would like to inquire why he is not posting with his main. Is it really that frightening?
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RatKnight1
Gallente
Mahdi Followers
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Posted - 2010.07.17 21:05:00 -
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My industry alt hangs out in a nice dead end area that I am not going to give away that averages a total of about 20 people the entire day (that is in the 3 systems I am usually in). There are manufacturing slots open all the time, I have never had to sit in a queue waiting for it to start.
Just saying, I think that High Sec could be expanded, but not for the same reason as the OP, i think some more "lower" high secs would be nice for those of us who rat, maybe as another gateway into nullsec, or even some more low sec. I have no problems going into most low sec systems near me, all you gotta do is fit a hauler properly and you will be fine.
Basically, your reasoning is flawed.
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Geralden
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Posted - 2010.07.17 21:55:00 -
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If you find it crowded now, just wait....
If 0.0 doesnt get fixed... where do you think the players go ?
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.17 22:20:00 -
[38]
out of boredom, I offer you this thread in song.
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.07.17 23:17:00 -
[39]
if by "empire" you mean "caldari", then i agree its very crowded
the other empires are pretty empty though, especially away from the hubs. don't be lazy and look around
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Aralieus
Amarr
The Inf1dels
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.07.17 23:27:00 -
[40]
to all the peons, this as been a troll, jus sayin |
Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.07.17 23:53:00 -
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If I can find 0.7s that have nobody in them for hours at a time, so can you.
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Flossing
Flush Gordon and The Toilet Ducks of Death
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Posted - 2010.07.17 23:59:00 -
[42]
if its too crowded then move out.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.18 00:12:00 -
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Staying in high-sec is like repeatedly playing the 1st level of Super Mario World. You see most of the common mechanics of the game but it's boring as **** and unsatisfying.
It's also full of tards.
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Jason filigree
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Posted - 2010.07.18 01:38:00 -
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I wanted to try my hand at some manufacturing, not a lot just play a little and see how it works, maybe latter I will take it up seriously.
I went to copy my blueprints, the shortest wait in my region was 3D14H, and that was in a 0.3 system. Most where over 7 days. I canÆt stand in a virtual line for 7 days; I want to actually play the game.
Interestingly there where many empty manufacturing lines available everywhere.
I would like to see an ample supply of all production copying and research facilities so you donÆt have to wait for any of them.
If there was a deliberate over supply of NPC facilities available to rent but the completion times where 5-10 times that of equivalent POS facilities and the cost to rent was 5-10 times the cost of operating equivalent POS facilities and you couldnÆt rent more than one facility at any given time.
Then small operators without the capital or will to invest in a POS manufacturing plant could play around, researching and producing the handful of items they personally use in quantity, maybe slipping a little onto the market if they get lucky on there 1 research project that tok them a long time.
POS facilities would dominate the market, with a POS you can run multiple jobs at the same time (if you have the skills and production lines) and jobs run much faster (how much faster could depend on the quality of the equipment you purchase) if you want to make a fortune you will need these advantages to invent significant numbers of T2 blue prints and to produce significant volumes of product. The part times using NOC facilities will never be able to keep up.
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Stroh Blatz
Gallente
Dirty Martini Clinical Operations
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Posted - 2010.07.18 04:06:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Geralden
If you find it crowded now, just wait....
If 0.0 doesnt get fixed... where do you think the players go ?
They already are and thats where I was.... I left because of the absurd politics.
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Krzt Kratznotztius
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Posted - 2010.07.18 05:06:00 -
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So, low sec is said to be empty and high sec has become crowded. Doesn't that sound like the topic for the next miniexpansion? Let's change a part of the abandoned low sec into a few nice and safe high sec regions. Not too much, maybe 1/3 of the low sec could be enough to make everyone happy. We could even call the miniexpansion "Revenge of the Hulksters!"
No pirate would cry over the empty low sec regions anymore, and they would definitely get their pvp when they can't help stepping on other pirates toes if they want to move around.
We carebears would also be happy since we could find much more relative safety and finally start to understand why you hate the local channel when we don't have 100 people in that channel 23/7.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.07.18 05:12:00 -
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I am sitting in a HS with 1 system having 25+ open biuld slots 95% of the time... longest wait was 5H in my biuld station, could have moved to another to get open slots.
Now ME PL copy... different story but it's called a HS pos, even goes faster!
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Flossing
Flush Gordon and The Toilet Ducks of Death
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Posted - 2010.07.18 07:10:00 -
[48]
This must mean that eve is dying , its so busy everywhere that nobody must be playing,
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Captian00Harlock
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Posted - 2010.07.18 09:44:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Stroh Blatz
Originally by: Geralden
If you find it crowded now, just wait....
If 0.0 doesnt get fixed... where do you think the players go ?
They already are and thats where I was.... I left because of the absurd politics.
HTFU Fool
If its too crowded or the politics bother you, depopulate it. :D
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Emma Royd
Caldari
Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2010.07.18 10:57:00 -
[50]
I rarely find any real queues for manufacturing slots, even in an old corp we used to manufacture things for the market, most of the time there was little queue if any and that was all out of 1 station.
Only substantial queues I find are the research/copy slots, and I'm not in a rush so I can't be bothered running blueprints into low-sec to get researched, I simply just add it to the queue and it'll get done when it's done, I know eve isn't an 'instant reward game' 
TBH they could double the number of slots available for build / research and given a few months they'd all be over used and have queues, or be horrendously expensive. I think my ML slots are about 22 isk per hour, and that's in a 0.5, granted I might have to wait a couple of weeks for the job to start, but so what?
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
NailorTech Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:20:00 -
[51]
Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 18/07/2010 11:26:26
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
he got a point. in the last few years player number have about tripled. in that time the space was only significantly extended in 0.0
at some point in the future ccp will have to extend empire space too.
CCP extending 0.0 is a message to you all.
Aka. Move out of high sec. The real and enjoyable game for pvpers(me) and industrialists(also me) is in null sec. Way more stuff to do, far more content. If you don't like internet spaceship politics, live in NPC space, nbd. |
Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:28:00 -
[52]
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
he got a point. in the last few years player number have about tripled. in that time the space was only significantly extended in 0.0
at some point in the future ccp will have to extend empire space too.
CCP extending 0.0 is a message to you all.
Aka. Move out of high sec. The real and enjoyable game for pvpers(me) and industrialists(also me) is in null sec. Way more stuff to do, far more content.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Epic troll
I know you have only been with nailor for a short time but thanks for all the brown 
On topic, empire is crowded because lowsec sucks and 0.0 limits your gameplay to being a stat / pet
Make it harder to indirectly (stealth NAPs) and directly NAP alliances, buff lowsec and maybe people will have a reason to leave empire.
Other than WHs there isnt really anything deccent outside empire |
Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:40:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Zartrader on 18/07/2010 11:42:55
Op reminds me about those players who will spend hours moaning about ninja salvagers yet don't have the wits to move a few jumps and get a better agent in an almost empty system.
Build queues are non existent in my area.
If you meant research then learn to communicate better. Get a POS, they are dirt cheap and stop being lazy.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:44:00 -
[54]
Mehà all of this is just a very roundabout way of saying "but I don't wanna!"
û There is no lack of S&I slots in empire, just move away from the hubs.
û But I don't wanna!
û If location is all that important to you, just put up a POS.
û But I don't wanna!
û If you have a hard time finding a moon, just move away from the hubs (again).
û But I don't wanna!
û àor just dec and blow up one of the POSes that occupy "your" moon.
û But I don't wanna!!
Etc. And we haven't even gotten to solutions such as leaving highsec yet.
In conclusion: shut up. If you don't want to do any of these, you don't want to do S&I, so you have nothing to complain about.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Peter XZ
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:44:00 -
[55]
The Aliens are coming!! Run for ya lives!!
(Just trying to be as ridiculous as OP) 
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
NailorTech Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:48:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
he got a point. in the last few years player number have about tripled. in that time the space was only significantly extended in 0.0
at some point in the future ccp will have to extend empire space too.
CCP extending 0.0 is a message to you all.
Aka. Move out of high sec. The real and enjoyable game for pvpers(me) and industrialists(also me) is in null sec. Way more stuff to do, far more content.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Epic troll
I know you have only been with nailor for a short time but thanks for all the brown
Care to point out what my troll was. No really, go ahead.
And nice to see you enjoy stalking me ~on the internet~
But really people should go out and try null, even the NPC 0.0 life is fun. For industrialists making more money there, to pvpers getting more action there. It helps alleviate the stress on empire systems and makes the game richer and encourages more people to make that jump.
And NAPs will never die, i have never seen an actual idea from anyone on how you can curb naps. If you stop people setting standings through eve, they just do it all through the meta game instead.
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Jumponme
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Posted - 2010.07.18 11:49:00 -
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Highsec is (mostly) fine .. it's the melting pot of all kinds of races and such. It also has some remote and quiet highsecs where you can do your business and do your thing.
Those are these places like i wish there would some left in 0.0 . Where ever you go, you stumble sooner or later over another person which mostly want to kill you. Nullsec seems more croweded than highsec. True, there are a few systems that may not even get visited for a week, but you still can't maintain a pos there for too long thakns to those statistics like jumps/npc-kills/pilots in space. Onve anything creates a little dot on the map, ppl will know that someone is there and most likely will check it out. If they find a pos, they most likely will jump their capital-blob on it and clean the system so it can stay unused again.
And don't even think of claiming ...
Eve became to small since instant-traveling was introduced. You can move a whole fleet of anything from one ned of the universe to the other in a few hours (well ... the lag slows it down a little).
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.20 07:46:00 -
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You know when you play wow and you first start a character, that little area just down from iron forge that all small and gets you to like level 5 or some crap... that's empire.
0.0 is the rest of the world.
Let go of the security blanket already and go actually play eve.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.07.20 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
You know when you play wow and you first start a character, that little area just down from iron forge that all small and gets you to like level 5 or some crap... that's empire.
0.0 is the rest of the world.
Let go of the false security blanket already and go actually play eve.
Fixed it
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.20 10:32:00 -
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setup a wormhole pos well defended build there access to materials no build queues peace and quite
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