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Mouse Nell Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.19 02:20:00 - [1] (a recording of the shipwide broadcast made by Science Officer Mouse Nell) Ladies and gentlemen, we have orders from the top. Operation Flypaper is being handed off to another capable pilot. We're still operating at marginal restraint on comms about the details of that particular operation, but it's out of our hands now. Command seems to think that our particular talents are better suited for another line of work entirely, especially after the images we pulled a month ago. The operation we're being assigned to spearhead has... well, little secrecy involved because its an all or nothing longshot. One in a million, but odds I'd still place good ISK on. Operation Farseeker is a go. Command has reevaluated my "hairbrained and ludicous" theories and deemed them plausible. Probe data featuring a Nation armada tends to motivate them to get off their brass. This is a long term operation, weeks, possibly months, so we've refitted the fabbers to take fullerites as input so we won't be starving anytime soon. Anyone who wants off this boat is welcome to leave, no questions asked. If we make it back, you'll be welcome to rejoin, but I want noone on this boat who isn't 100% ready for this. Enough softfooting around though, the plan. The plan is simple. Using the sigint data we've acquired, as well as some documentation from CONCORD, namely the ISHAEKA reports, we're going to do the impossible. Ladies and gentlemen... We're heading to Jovian space. We're not the only ones, but theres a fat bonus to our paychecks if we're the first to make it there. You'll have some time to disembark if you want to leave, we need to get some supplies first. But once we're geared up, helm will take us on a random walk through w-space. We're looking for a specific locus, J235456. The belief is it may be a bridge to somewhere in Jovian space, assuming its not just a red herring of course. Either way, make preparations. Its going to be a long night. Mouse, out. I will science you right in the face.
Syekuda State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.07.19 02:32:00 - [2] And you wouldn't happen to have the exact location of where that wormhole links too right ? I want that fat paycheck -------------------------------------------------- Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ISAAC ASIMOV
Victoria Stecker Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.19 03:19:00 - [3] Umm... isn't that the system that everyone thought was important at the beginning of the Nation invasions, and went on a wild hunt to find? And then when it was found, all that was there was a random buncha miners who hadn't heard anything about the Nation attacks because they'd been in W-space for so long? People camped out there waiting for a Sansha fleet to fly through to or from an attack... and nothing ever happened. Or maybe it was some other J##### wormhole, but the number looks familiar. Either way, have fun, don't die, all that jazz. - In the embrace of Hell, I am no longer afraid, for with His damned embrace, I have become that which I once most feared: Death.
Ikarus Gaul Gallente Eiffel Initiatives	Posted - 2010.07.19 03:20:00 - [4] I applaud your initiative. A longshot it might be, but access to that locus could change the strategic possibilities in combatting the threat posed by the Nation immensely. I wish you good hunting and a strong, if metaphorical, wind at your back. Drones are like puppies... disobedient and just as hard to housebreak.
Nikita Alterana Gallente Risen Angels	Posted - 2010.07.19 04:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Victoria Stecker Umm... isn't that the system that everyone thought was important at the beginning of the Nation invasions, and went on a wild hunt to find? And then when it was found, all that was there was a random buncha miners who hadn't heard anything about the Nation attacks because they'd been in W-space for so long? People camped out there waiting for a Sansha fleet to fly through to or from an attack... and nothing ever happened. Or maybe it was some other J##### wormhole, but the number looks familiar. Yeah, Vicky, that's the hole alright, good luck Mouse, but there weren't anythin there the first time we found it, I dinna think they'rll be anything there now. Life isn't about Waiting for the storm to pass. It's about standing in the rain.
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.19 13:46:00 - [6] Edited by: khazak mokl on 19/07/2010 13:55:55 we have been doing the same thing now for 2 days from a staging area. so far no luck but there are over 500 c5s so i am not holding my breath for immediate results
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.19 14:29:00 - [7] A laudable venture. Let's hope it succeeds. Stecker, J235456 was located and investigated previously but it was only a cursory search. Due to the nature of wormhole mechanics if that locus does have access to Jovian space as one possible outbound exit from the cycle of its permanent wormhole then long-term exploration would be required. Unless one was very lucky.
Ivvor	Posted - 2010.07.19 14:34:00 - [8] Personally I'd be more interested in knowing what can be found in the following three unusual systems: J1340+6, J1259+0 and J1226-0 A glitch in a locus signature detector, or something else entirely perhaps?
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.19 14:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Ivvor Personally I'd be more interested in knowing what can be found in the following three unusual systems: J1340+6, J1259+0 and J1226-0 A glitch in a locus signature detector, or something else entirely perhaps? Been in 2 of the above systems recently and had no joy. nothing unusual that we saw but maybe we missed stufz. Just seems weird why they have a unusual locust unless its to seperate them from the rest in some way that isnt yet apparent.
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.07.19 22:09:00 - [10] Ms. Nell, the J235456 was discovered over a month ago after a long and arduous effort to contact various w-space exploration groups, and our own independent investigations. I personally entered the system, along with Ms. Alterana, Morwen Lagann, and several others. We made an extensive sweep of the system, and there was little there but some Sleeper facilities, abandoned stations, and an active capsuleer exploration detatchment, who, as Ms. Alterana states, had no idea that the Sansha had been in the system at all. What is it that you intend to find? I'm curious.
Saikoyu Amarr Rho Dynamics	Posted - 2010.07.19 22:51:00 - [11] Ms. Nell, I wish you luck with your search, if you are still going though with it. Also, if you are, I would direct you here if you are interested in earning some amount of isk during your journey. It might not be the bonus you refer to if you find Jovian space, but it is something. Please contact me if you have questions. Rho Dynamics recruitment
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.20 00:45:00 - [12] My exploration vessel, Remnant, is waiting for launch. You have my probe launcher.
Razor Blue VR Corp	Posted - 2010.07.20 01:42:00 - [13] ...And my railguns.
Sylorin Caldari MMZ Laboratories LLC	Posted - 2010.07.20 06:54:00 - [14] System J104517 was explored earlier today by our ships. There was a very large Sleeper population spread out over about twenty different locations, but we found nothing else that could assist your search. Drop us a line if we can be of any further assistance. *The opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the opinions of MMZ Labs, LLC
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.20 07:40:00 - [15] This is going to be an easy one. Anyone who goes into WH space needs to know about this mission. Report all findings. Period. The question I have is, is this going to take an expanded probe launcher? Are we strictly looking for Worm Holes or are the Sansha assets actually scannable? I have heard they created dead spaces where they jumped, but don't recall whether it was their worm hole or their ships that were probed. An expanded launcher is a heavy load on a ships main computer system, and needs augmentation.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.20 10:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Julianus Soter Ms. Nell, the J235456 was discovered over a month ago after a long and arduous effort to contact various w-space exploration groups, and our own independent investigations. I personally entered the system, along with Ms. Alterana, Morwen Lagann, and several others. We made an extensive sweep of the system, and there was little there but some Sleeper facilities, abandoned stations, and an active capsuleer exploration detatchment, who, as Ms. Alterana states, had no idea that the Sansha had been in the system at all. What is it that you intend to find? I'm curious. 'Static' wormhole exits from w-space tend to link to other w-space and k-space systems from a set pool. It is hypothesised by Ms. Nell and myself that one of the cycle of exits from the system in question could lead to Directorate space. This would be very difficult to ascertain without a long-term exploration of the J235456 system. It would have been highly unlikely for the previous fairly short search to give a result if this is the case. Yes, it's a long-shot, but worth checking.
Shpenat	Posted - 2010.07.20 11:19:00 - [17] I would like to join you on your mission yet I am recently bound to Gallente space by other duties. I will however instruct one of my offspring to join you as soon as I teach her to use scanner probes.
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari Project Daedalid	Posted - 2010.07.20 12:51:00 - [18] I would suggest not seeking a path into Jove space. You will not find it where you are looking, but if you stumble upon something I tell you now; it will not end favorably. This is not a threat. It is a warning.
Mouse Nell Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.20 12:59:00 - [19] Originally by: Borza Slavak Originally by: Julianus Soter Ms. Nell, the J235456 was discovered over a month ago after a long and arduous effort to contact various w-space exploration groups, and our own independent investigations. I personally entered the system, along with Ms. Alterana, Morwen Lagann, and several others. We made an extensive sweep of the system, and there was little there but some Sleeper facilities, abandoned stations, and an active capsuleer exploration detatchment, who, as Ms. Alterana states, had no idea that the Sansha had been in the system at all. What is it that you intend to find? I'm curious. 'Static' wormhole exits from w-space tend to link to other w-space and k-space systems from a set pool. It is hypothesised by Ms. Nell and myself that one of the cycle of exits from the system in question could lead to Directorate space. This would be very difficult to ascertain without a long-term exploration of the J235456 system. It would have been highly unlikely for the previous fairly short search to give a result if this is the case. Yes, it's a long-shot, but worth checking. It is as Borza says, there is the idea that a static bridge could be formed. To answer the other questions, I am carrying an expanded launcher, just in case, and what I INTEND to do is spend the next month-ish in WH space trying to find Directorate territory, while someone in K-space figures out what really needs to be done to end the attacks. I fully expect to miss out on the full resolution of the Nation incursions. What I hope to do is the impossible, finding Directorate space. I'm no admiral, nor pirate or even really what most would call a "combat specialist". And we've hit the proverbial dead end, with combat being the main option of getting through this, one incursion at a time. Could be that any of the great ideas being slung around could work, find us a way to shut down the Nation threat. Could be I'm wasting my time chasing bad ideas or red herrings. But its better than nothing, and I'm full well tired of sitting around waiting for something to happen. Exploration is something I AM good at, and unless Nation can be defeated by superior production of exhumer-class ships, this seems like the best thing I can do to be useful. Its a long shot, yes. But its proactive, rather than reactive. And Anyone that wants to help, the help is more than welcome. If, as you say, there was a hapless mining corp camped in that system, perhaps you could forward me their info, so I could get guided in. That would make what comes after this all the easier. Or perhaps someone more technically inclined than the good admiral can examine the bits pulled from various wreckages to see if the data module and the data stream are perhaps... compatible. If I could be less vague about that last bit, I would be, but for the life of me i can't remember what the two things were called. Anyways. Back to it for me. Fly sage, live dangerously. I will science you right in the face.
Acer Rubrum Revenue Marine	Posted - 2010.07.20 23:11:00 - [20] Edited by: Acer Rubrum on 20/07/2010 23:13:22 On behalf of Revenue Marine, New Eden's premier purveyor of fine and exotic goods, I am pleased to commit our most skilled exploration pilot. If his dedicated Proteus scan ship cannot find this wormhole, I assure you, it cannot be found. One thing I should mention, however, is that if we happen to find this no-doubt profitable trade route to Jove space, we might just keep it for ourselves. To the victor go the spoils, and all that jazz. Good luck and fly safe. --- Revenue Marine: Because drugs are cool and you aren't. Follow us across space.
Sibylla Aldanar	Posted - 2010.07.21 02:49:00 - [21] Edited by: Sibylla Aldanar on 21/07/2010 02:52:02 Edited by: Sibylla Aldanar on 21/07/2010 02:50:44 If you do find a wormhole into the Jove Empire and enter their sovereign space, how sure are you that you will be safe? For all we know they might attack you to prevent any Jovian secrets from leaking out. Furthermore, what are you going to do if the wormhole leading back into Anoikis suddenly collapses? It is not like you have unlimited resources at your disposal to wait for a wormhole back into Anoikis to appear. With that said, I still wish you good luck on your astral journey into the domain of the enigmatic Jove.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.21 04:24:00 - [22] Ugh. An expanded launcher. Two CPUs in the lows and hardly a defense system to speak of. OK Mouse, you called it. I will set out from Villore tonight. Done this many times before, but a specific system? I suspect my effort, like the Stain mission, is in vain, but if anyone can find this "bridge", it's Mouse. Got a manager in Villore already hurting from his last lost bet, I will make sure he makes another bad one. Hopefully someone with the capability to jump friends into this system will be the one who finds it. I would hate to find that fleet alone, and I don't suspect the Sansha are that sort to let their pants down, if they even bother to wear any.
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.21 06:59:00 - [23] Mouse nell said "Or perhaps someone more technically inclined than the good admiral can examine the bits pulled from various wreckages to see if the data module and the data stream are perhaps... compatible. If I could be less vague about that last bit, I would be, but for the life of me i can't remember what the two things were called. Anyways. Back to it for me. Fly sage, live dangerously." Anyone know what shes talking about?
Acer Rubrum Revenue Marine	Posted - 2010.07.21 23:25:00 - [24] Perhaps I'm giving away too good of an idea, but has anyone thought to start a search in the Stain region for wormholes that connect to Jove space? Maybe the actual WH system itself is irrelevant, but what is relevant is what it connects -- Stain to Jove space. We know a few things here: 1. The Nation is based in the Stain region 2. The Nation was in a WH (J235456) 3. The Nation is in 3-CE1R If we want to get to No. 3 ourselves, perhaps we need to start at No. 1. --- Revenue Marine: Because drugs are cool and you aren't. Follow us across space.
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari Project Daedalid	Posted - 2010.07.22 07:06:00 - [25] //Protocol_Dark_Override_001// Originally by: Acer Rubrum Perhaps I'm giving away too good of an idea, but has anyone thought to start a search in the Stain region for wormholes that connect to Jove space? Maybe the actual WH system itself is irrelevant, but what is relevant is what it connects -- Stain to Jove space. We know a few things here: 1. The Nation is based in the Stain region 2. The Nation was in a WH (J235456) 3. The Nation is in 3-CE1R If we want to get to No. 3 ourselves, perhaps we need to start at No. 1. Your analysis is flawed. 1. CONCORD investigations in Stain showed abandoned and/or defunct manufacturing facilities in Stain. 2. The attacks in J235456 seem in-line with the attacks conducted in Empire space. 3. Traces on Sansha's Nation pilots were performed after the first series of attacks in Empire space. The traces led to 3-CE1R. This points to the following conclusions. 1. The Nation vessels currently involved in the incursion were most likely built in Stain. 2. These vessels are now located in 3-CE1R. 3. These attacks have originated in 3-CE1R since the beginning. This would be the reason for the CONCORD blackout on information. This would also show that CONCORD knew about the origin of the attacks previous to the first attack in Empire space. Another point of interest is the ISHAEKA reports, noting a shift from continuous broadcast methods to user-specific burst communications. This speaks to a very specific shift in both methodology and implementation of certain innate characteristics of Nation technology. The timing of such a shift cannot be ignored either. In short, we believe Nation was preparing to interact with Jove technology. In this case, user-specific communications would guarantee easy termination of infected subjects. We wonder; is this a repeating cycle? Master, I am sorry. Tell us Kuvakei, did you solve the problem, or improve upon the interface to a point where it is no longer a concern?
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.22 07:22:00 - [26] Mouse Nell said: 'Or perhaps someone more technically inclined than the good admiral can examine the bits pulled from various wreckages to see if the data module and the data stream are perhaps... compatible. If I could be less vague about that last bit, I would be, but for the life of me i can't remember what the two things were called' So does anyone know what this is reffering to? Is there stuff recovered from the sansha battles that are being examined or is someone hording the info for private use? Khaz
Akuma Kenatsuki Caldari A Lite in the Darkness	Posted - 2010.07.22 15:22:00 - [27] Let me know if you need more ships. ALID may be small, but We're willing to commit as many resources as possible to this endeavor. We're already scanning when and where we can, but have yet to find anything useful...
Tykari Gallente AOE Enterprise	Posted - 2010.07.22 17:42:00 - [28] I applaud your bold effort. With the current situation being as it is we need answers. If someone can make to it Directorate controlled space perhaps we may get them. The presence of the Sansha fleet in Jove space leaves behind an uneasy feeling. And the continued silence of the Jove while not surprising considering their normal attitude simply will not do. I wish you and your crew a swift and safe journey. ------ In my memories is still see the waves. The light and the energy pulsing, forming shapes so complex and beautiful. It is a tale none will ever believe.
Mouse Nell Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.23 03:08:00 - [29] Apologies for the late reply. Local interference makes it difficult sometimes to get a connection to IGS. The node and datastream I was referring to were the PDW-09FX tactical subroutines and the PDW-09FX Data Shell, recovered by SYNE forces. One was was apparently recovered from a Nation pilot deep in a Catch drug lab, and the other was rumored to have been from ex-CONCORD agent Endoma's wreck when she was outed and slagged. They are presently in the possession of Soter, who was kind enough to give me those neocom datalinks, but not so kind as to let me poke at them before heading back to w-space. As for the Necessity of an expanded launcher... I don't know if one would be needed, but I use one just in case. Its a tight fit in the ship I'm currently boating around in, but I think its worth it for my particular style of scanning. Also, for everyone wanting to help probe down w-space, i only say: Thank you. Many hands will make light work, and at present I don't really care if I'm the one who finds it, so long as its found. My crew is unhappy with that sentiment, as they are looking forward to that fat bonus for their paychecks. But if SOMEONE finds a route to J-space through w-space, I'd say my theories are proven at least, with reproducible results. For those who wish to help, but don't want to spend weeks sifting through w-space on a quixotic quest, then perhaps assistance with an old and cold lead would be more up your alley. There was a Scope report some time ago about Nation transmissions entering Gallente space. I've been told it was, as well, followed up on by SYNE command and their various capable pilots, but at this point we are hurting for a lack of intelligence. Going over old leads may just give us info missed the first time. I will science you right in the face.
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.23 06:39:00 - [30] Thanks for the reply mouse. It opened up another avenue to look over. 10 seconds of research gave me a link to a site where in 2009 dropbear reffered to a hidden story but booster production has never been my area. Seems like the hints have been here along time for those looking.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.24 02:35:00 - [31] I am having bad luck trying to find a suitable wormhole bridge. This is the second time that, when intentionally doing any wormhole travel related to the Sansha Nation, they become scarce. I had to return to Villore last night and will need to have the ship inspected. On the upside, the Serpentis are missing some very important items from some of their data centers in that general area. I will try again today.
Mouse Nell Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.26 14:24:00 - [32] Mouselog Day 1: Starting search for possible route to J235456, in hopes that it leads to Jovian-space. Beginning search in Hatakani, which features a single w-space link currently. Following the rabbithole leads to J120308. 2 wormhole links in this system, following one deeper leads to another w-space system, then another until the only exit left is in Otalieto. Calling it a day, a rather disappointing start. Day 2: After resuming the search, an apeture was finally found in Yoma. This rabbithole only went 1 deep, and dropped us out by Aghesi. Frustration mounts, patience lost. Day 3: Picking up search in Yulai. An aperture is found, and it goes into deep w-space. Following this rabbithole, leads 7 deep, eventually dead ending in J221512. A class 5 red giant, but not the one i'm looking for. Though the series of wormholes scanned may have taken time, the crew feels that this is an accomplishment to be so deep in sleeper territory. With 5 current wormholes in this system, it seems a good of a place as any to use as a base to scan from. Day 4: Only 2 connections, both to Nullsec. Considered selling the info, but decided not to incite further conflict between Gallente and Minmatar militias. Day 5: Perhaps not as great of a system as I had thought, only 1 connection today. Still, having to wait for the system to resolve before my pod will fully online is somewhat reassuring. Scanned the connection deeper, incase it lead anywhere interesting. Morale would be crushed if I let the general crew know that someone has beaten us to J235456. They've offered to guide us for a somewhat steep cost and seem very well prepared. Have to keep an eye on Black Viper Nomads. Day 6: Continuing the search thinking "Maybe I'll get lucky, or find a way out." No such luck though, just a few 2-deep scans. Managed to find a class 6, untouched except for a Caldari wreck. Was tempted to scan it down, but the aperture only had 2 hours left on it at most, and I needed to make a decision: use this as my new strikepoint, or head back. Headed back, and watched the aperture close behind me. Day 7: Jackpot. Ladies and gentlemen, J235456. Looks like I won't be needing Black Viper Nomads help after all. Though, I'll drop Khazak Mokl a line at least, to let him know that we come in peace. And would prefer not to leave in pieces. Now the hard part: Waiting to see if anything interesting comes from this. Still, the beer's are on me. I will science you right in the face.
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari Project Daedalid	Posted - 2010.07.26 15:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Mouse Nell Now the hard part: Waiting to see if anything interesting comes from this. Still, the beer's are on me. Please keep me appraised of the exact anomalies you find. I have a theory.
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.26 16:20:00 - [34] Edited by: khazak mokl on 26/07/2010 16:24:57 Providing the route into the system for free is somewhat steep? As there are over 500 C5 WH's and we never had a contract to find it for you,I thought our terms pretty good for a route in that would possibly save you months of scanning and/Or opening and closing WHs like we did (130 plus in 2-3 days) to find it. As I said to you in my original offer we are here to sniff out any clues to the sleeper saga
khazak mokl Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.26 16:28:00 - [35] Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Originally by: Mouse Nell Now the hard part: Waiting to see if anything interesting comes from this. Still, the beer's are on me. Please keep me appraised of the exact anomalies you find. I have a theory. Feel free to convo me as you have had several insights that we did not.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.27 00:44:00 - [36] I knew Mouse would find it. So you had to go deep for this worm hole. I would be curious to see the incidence of bridges to 0.0 or if the majority of worm holes that form go to lower classed systems. I think perhaps that the Sansha might not necessarily be making wormholes, but controlling them instead. If that system has a "round robin" of K162 locations it makes a good jump point. I have only seen a few such systems.
Jandice Ymladris Caldari DRAMA Inc	Posted - 2010.07.27 08:31:00 - [37] Mmm I'm following this, seeing if something new comes out from this WH. Previous scoutingparties turned out nothing, but perhaps Officer Nell will discover something with her prolonged stay. -------------- Cleaning up wrecks others leave behind! Got to keep space clean!
END GRAVE Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.07.27 18:31:00 - [38] Good Hunting.
Midori Amiiko Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.07.29 00:58:00 - [39] Edited by: Midori Amiiko on 29/07/2010 01:03:08 We of The Revival of the Talocan Empire do this every day. I suspect that the Nation is simply collapsing wormholes until they get one they like, not using some super tech as some claim. I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way John Paul Jones
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.29 13:02:00 - [40] Originally by: Midori Amiiko Edited by: Midori Amiiko on 29/07/2010 01:03:08 We of The Revival of the Talocan Empire do this every day. I suspect that the Nation is simply collapsing wormholes until they get one they like, not using some super tech as some claim. Unlikely. No 'naturally occuring' wormholes have yet been found which can allow a carrier to pass through to a highsec system (presumably due to some CONCORD tech, whether intentional or not) let alone multiple carriers or a titan. Keep up the good work Pilot Nell, though remember J235456 may instead be a step on a longer w-space path to Jovian space.
athieros meritar	Posted - 2010.07.29 15:49:00 - [41] Mouse If you have found the worm hole in question please appraise me of an empire exit if one appears. I wish to join you there to assist in your search. I propose to bring both a Cynosural field and fuel to run it in my ship. We may be able to, if we get there. Light a cyno close to the Jove/Empire space border and try and jump a fleet there. It is often said the best defence is a good attack, this would allow us to take the fight to the Nation and would give us the element of surprise. All this is based on the hope that the Jove no longer Cyno jam systems, if they ever did. I would have thought that they would not feel the need due to the lack of Stargate access to their space. Its a shot in the dark, a long shot but it may be worth the risk. My Ship, and my life are at your disposal. Let us not hide in the shadows waiting for the next Nation raid. LET US TAKE THE FIGHT TO THEM!!! Yours Athieros Meritar I await your mail
Mouse Nell Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.30 12:14:00 - [42] yes, it is as Borza says. The wormholes Nation have been employing are fundamentally different, being classified as Violent Wormholes, as opposed to the regular Unstable Wormholes we see... naturally. Also Borza, I agree. I've been trying to scan 2-4 WH's deep from this system, but there have been... anomalous concerns which prevent my pod from onlining daily. These problems have been compounded by a Minmatar Standoff with Black Viper Nomads. I don't think they're bad folk, but we didn't exactly trust eachother... Though i have reason to believe they've mostly moved on from the system. I appreciate all help and advice. I know I'm not the only one trying to reach Jovian Space, nor have i been doing it the longest. But if anyone reaches there, its going to take more than any one pilot, corp or alliance to make a splash. We're all in this together! Fly sage, live dangerously. I will science you right in the face.
JimmyThePimp Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.07.30 13:30:00 - [43] unfortunatly we got off on the wrong foot, we extended the hand of friendship and were met with animosity at every step. we came out here to find an answer to all these questions and were happy to have you along for the ride. but you turned down perfectly reasonable terms to try and maintain the safety of our small expeditionary force, you came in with a combat ship with a stated intent of bringing a large hostile force in system, people we have faught before and it seems will have to fight again thanks to you. so instead of a partner in exploration and discovery, you have chosen to make us an enemy and in turn make yourself a target. be sure that we are still in system, we are still combat capable and are now considering removing you from system before we exfiltrate the area. keep your cloaking device in good working order, its allready saved you more than once and it may again before this is over. be seeing you real soon mouse.
Gattman	Posted - 2010.07.30 14:53:00 - [44] Edited by: Gattman on 30/07/2010 14:56:37 bit fast to pick up the sword. if you were so interested in peace you would not be writing such threats. try to remember your humanity capsuleer, this is bigger than you. and Mouse, good luck.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.30 18:06:00 - [45] For someone spending the bulk of his time currently planetside, could anybody summarize why you think this system is so important, or provide a reference? Thanks.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.31 04:53:00 - [46] Originally by: JimmyThePimp Edited by: JimmyThePimp on 30/07/2010 13:45:26 unfortunately we got off on the wrong foot, we extended the hand of friendship and were met with animosity at every step. we came out here to find an answer to all these questions and were happy to have you along for the ride. but you turned down perfectly reasonable terms to try and maintain the safety of our small expeditionary force, you came in with a combat ship with a stated intent of bringing a large hostile force in system, people we have fought before and it seems will have to fight again thanks to you. so instead of a partner in exploration and discovery, you have chosen to make us an enemy and in turn make yourself a target. be sure that we are still in system, we are still combat capable and are now considering removing you from system before we exfiltrate the area. keep your cloaking device in good working order, its already saved you more than once and it may again before this is over. be seeing you real soon mouse. (edited for dislexia) Your true colors are showing. You have to understand that scientists are in no position to trust anybody and we use combat vessels because our calls for SOE to start producing science vessels as yet goes unanswered. Nova Fox shipyards has designs waiting to be built. Nevertheless if Mouse should experience any trouble, I will gladly pass on some of my research grant to fund her next project.
Mouse Nell Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.31 08:55:00 - [47] Edited by: Mouse Nell on 31/07/2010 08:56:20 Originally by: JimmyThePimp Edited by: JimmyThePimp on 30/07/2010 13:45:26 unfortunately we got off on the wrong foot, we extended the hand of friendship and were met with animosity at every step. we came out here to find an answer to all these questions and were happy to have you along for the ride. but you turned down perfectly reasonable terms to try and maintain the safety of our small expeditionary force, you came in with a combat ship with a stated intent of bringing a large hostile force in system, people we have fought before and it seems will have to fight again thanks to you. so instead of a partner in exploration and discovery, you have chosen to make us an enemy and in turn make yourself a target. be sure that we are still in system, we are still combat capable and are now considering removing you from system before we exfiltrate the area. keep your cloaking device in good working order, its already saved you more than once and it may again before this is over. be seeing you real soon mouse. (edited for dislexia) How... interesting. Your original terms, given to me while i was still in W-space looking for j235456 were Quote: 1. Our conditions for this are that you only come in a covert ops as this is a scientific survey. 2. You do not try and bring any other people into the system without getting our agreement first. 3. Any loot or items gained from this is split 75%/25% with a basis towards us as we did most of the hard work so far. 4. Any information found is shared with the general eve population as far as the storyline are concerned but any information that could be used for profit falls into condition 3. So lets go point by point. 1) I was already in a modified SB when you found the locus in question, and hadn't returned from w-space when i mananged to find it for myself. SB's are technically Covert ops frigates, but more importantly, i gave my fitting to your CEO. 2) At every request to bring people in, the response was "They won't be useful to what we're trying to do". And I'll flat out say that noone came in with me, and until today I didn't try bringing anyone in. Any hostile forces were likely unrelated or lucky. 3) 75% is a steep cut even if you had guided me in. Every pilot i have talked to has universally said that this was unfair, and that if it came to it, you should be forcibly removed. From the start, I tried warning you that while I might be interested in this as a learning endevor, many many people interested in getting to J235456 are much less polite or friendly than I am. 4) While the sharing of important information is much appreciated, all intel can be considered "valuable" The small expeditionary force you put forward was only jeoperdized by your leaderships hesitance to share the system with anyone outside your corp. Including me, which i gathered from a conversation from your carrier pilot. You were unwilling to attempt anything while i was around, for fear that i would bring in hostile fleets while you were engaged with sleepers, was the jist of it. From the first day I entered the system, your corpmates have been vocal about their dislike for me. You didn't want a partner in this, you wanted to stake a claim and hijack a legitimate scientific expedition for your own profit. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but don't be trying to take the moral highground at the same time. Also, those people you fought before? They're more interested in stopping Nation and getting to jovian space than they are with their wallets. If you or yours had given me and mine the smallest amount of trust, there wouldn't have been a problem. I sincerely hope your leadership has another change of heart, because I'm still willing to work with your corp if you agree to play nice with the others who are extremely interested in this particular system Fly sage, live dangerously. Mouse I will science you right in the face.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.07.31 09:32:00 - [48] While Captain Nell looks for that gate into Jove space, she had me searching about the maps in the adjacent areas. Strangely enough, my map had some information for me. I am not sure if this information comes from CONCORD or DED. The Caldari State have found something significant in G5ED-Y. The State military has set up a huge base of operations in that system, and its presence there is thick as sour milk. The Guristas on the other hand are extremely curious as to what their arch nemesis has discovered, and have set up many bases in the surrounding systems to oversee reconnaissance missions into G5ED-Y. A division from the Serpentis has also been sent to the constellation on behalf of the Smuggler Cartel, led by the infamous Black Jack. This area borders Jove Space.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.08.26 06:48:00 - [49] Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 26/08/2010 06:54:29 There is a possibility that Mouse Nell is missing. I have sent a message some time ago, and not a reply, nor have I seen any indication of Captain Nell being "on line" as is said. Usually, in recalling some information that can be pulled up on any known pilot, there is but a short message in regards to having proven that worm holes do go into Jove space. But I fear that this is more of a message than a bio, these short missives we put in our identification streams about ourselves. Could this have been changed, at the very edge of a worm hole leading into where Nell was seeking to go, on expectation that communication past that threshold would no longer be possible? Finding a way into Jove space is no small matter, indeed given the nature of things, one would not keep this a secret unless there was a dire reason. Whatever the case, if it could be said that communications do not get into or out of Jove space, there certainly is evidence of it. But it is also speculated that Nell's operation with the camera drone would not have been possible unless the Sansha - Kuvukai to be specific - wanted that to happen. Considering the ease at which Nell found the proper worm holes leading to the target system, this is also a possibility. On that latter speculation, I have much concern that Mouse Nell may have fallen into a trap. Do not underestimate the implications of a capsuleer scientist falling into Kuvukai's hands. While Kuvukai has proven that he can snatch a housewife from any planet and make her pilot a carrier, I shudder to think what can be done with, or of, a scientist. Until Mouse Nell resurfaces, she should be considered missing or lost. At the least. I am going to leave tomorrow to find Nell. So far even the Sisters of Eve, in spite of all of the work I have done for them, cannot get a location on her or a last known whereabouts. I trust that some of you might have friends in high - or low - places that can get a location. We have tracked Sansha slaves to Jove space before, surely we can get a location on a fellow pilot. Please help.
Djoser Soter Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.08.26 13:46:00 - [50] My, my. Quite the adventure this is, wormholes, Jovians and True Slaves. One would think it a holo-novel, dry laugh. Still, it would be a sorely missed opportunity if Miss Nell has indeed gone off the radar as they say. I trust you will be keeping the wider community appraised of your efforts to retrace her steps mhm?

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