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Rabid Longcat
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Posted - 2010.07.19 21:20:00 -
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Halp!
I have skills for both but how to actually fly them? I am too afraid to join any roaming gangs with those and im afraid that I just fail horribly. :(
I think that zealot would be better for me but would the vaga be more noob friendly?
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Ansol
Gallente
Origin Synthetic Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.19 21:42:00 -
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Do what I do: Lie your way through it.
The dead remember our silence,
The dead remember our indifference. |
ZiggyXX
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.19 21:49:00 -
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try this:
[Vagabond]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Medium Polycarbon Engine housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine housing I
Warrior II x 5
Find victim, target, then hit MWD and drop into orbit around him/her at about 18-20 kilometers, engage Warp Disruptor/guns and--voila! If all went well--then, you'll still be in your Vaga and he/she will be in a pod. ;)
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Drake Neutrino
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Posted - 2010.07.19 22:47:00 -
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Do what everyone who asks a question on this forum is told: fly something cheaper first.
If you've never flown a HAC before, taking one out will probably result in it going poof very quickly. To practice how to fly a vagabond you can use a stabber or a shield tanked rupture. The omen would be cheapo equivalent of a zealot but generally isn't very good.
To take it back to basics, you learn the most about how to fly by flying t1 frigs (rifters are the best for that). Nothing is sadder to see than a new player to waste the potential of a HAC but it takes many losses to learn. Its just that you're better off taking those losses in t1 ships until you don't need to ask how to fly them because you'll know for yourself through experience.
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Demolishar
Internet Spaceship Raiders
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Posted - 2010.07.20 00:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Drake Neutrino
To take it back to basics, you learn the most about how to fly by flying t1 frigs (rifters are the best for that). Nothing is sadder to see than a new player to waste the potential of a HAC but it takes many losses to learn. Its just that you're better off taking those losses in t1 ships until you don't need to ask how to fly them because you'll know for yourself through experience.
The thing about HACs is so long as you know to be a total coward and not engage anything you don't have 110% chance of killing, you won't lose the ship. The magic of HACs is that YOU can force whether an engagement happens or not, and if you just choose "NOT" in a situation that is AT ALL risky, you'll be fine. Don't play with fire, and you won't get burned, basically. As soon as you get greedy and start taking people on where you don't have that 110% chance of victory, you'll run the risk of dying.
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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2010.07.20 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Neutrino
use a stabber
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I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise.
Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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Canaloney Soup
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Posted - 2010.07.20 00:46:00 -
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Try both out on the test server to get used to em
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Whiskeydod
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Posted - 2010.07.20 00:56:00 -
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For the Zealot, I would suggest a sniper fit. Allows you to still contribute to the fight while also being able to avoid some of the heat.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/37279-Snipe-Zealot.html
This is what I fly besides the rigs. I got rigs that increase falloff, but that is personal preference. As long as you stay to this general fit you will be fine.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.07.20 01:27:00 -
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USE BOOST TO GET THROUGH
Vaga's more noob friendly.
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Emperor Ryan
Amarr
Imperial Syndicate Forces
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.07.20 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor Ryan on 20/07/2010 11:14:46
There's only one way to go about,
first you start in a stabber, it cost 3million, does half the dps and gets half the range and EHP of a vaga, however same speed.
Learn how to kite how to fight in fall off, and most important, Dictate range, If the fight flips and it looks like your going to die, You can also Overload, and Burn away.
Once Stabber is mastered you go for Vaga, After 500+ kills in a vaga (takes like... what 2 months?) Go for a cynabal.
Stabber fit:
x4220's Med neut small nos
X1LSE (Or tracking disruptor) x1 24k point, x1 mwd
x1 Tracking Enhancer, x1 Nano, x1 Gyro
Extender rigs
Vaga is the same just more slots
220's Med/small neut - Salvager ( normlay i never need my nuet so instead i make a good amount of cash from t2 salvage)
x2 LSE x1 24km point x1 mwd
The lows are tricky, some fit damage controls etc the trick here is speed and aglitty,
X2 Tracking Enhancer x2 Gyro x1 nano , You can drop a gyro or TE for another nano, But i dont like it myself.
ecm drones or warriors
Have RF EMP PP Fusion, and Barrge in cargo, and if you're really worried about frigs use that tracking bonus ammo
Cynabal
425 x4 faction med Neut
x2 LSE x1 Invul x1 30k point x1 faction mwd (can fit a tracking disruptor too)
x2 TE x2 Gyro x1 nano,
x5 valks, or x5 ecm and x5 Warrs
And the Stabber fleet, IS just a tracking god, put 180's or 220's mwd orbit a frigate and shoot, and you'll track perfectly, but its a but of a ship on it's own could be an improved stabber, but better off with a vaga
- Emperor
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.20 11:27:00 -
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Start in a Rupture, not a Stabber FFS.
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Emperor Ryan
Amarr
Imperial Syndicate Forces
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.07.20 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank
Start in a Rupture, not a Stabber FFS.
Flying a rupture is totally diffrent, You dont orbit at 15k and shoot barrage generally in a rupture. Start in a stabber if your going vaga, since its the exact same fighting style no differnces whatsoever
- Emperor
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Fumitsugu
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Posted - 2010.07.20 12:48:00 -
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[Rupture, BetterThanAStabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Warrior II x5
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.20 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Ryan
Originally by: Gladys Pank
Start in a Rupture, not a Stabber FFS.
Flying a rupture is totally diffrent, You dont orbit at 15k and shoot barrage generally in a rupture. Start in a stabber if your going vaga, since its the exact same fighting style no differnces whatsoever
NO because...
Originally by: Fumitsugu
[Rupture, BetterThanAStabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Warrior II x5
This. Infinitely better and more vaga like than a Stabber.
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