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Korbin Sabaidich
Caldari
Of Unsound Mind
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:26:00 -
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I have an inability to keep things short but I will try.
I am a part time eve player and do not spend enough time signed in to be productive to any corporation. In fact, many corporations will either deny my application outright or, when I am not productive enough, will kick me.
With that said, I would still like to access null sec for ratting and perhaps some mining on my own. Since I do not spend a lot of time in game, I formed a one person corporation and have several messages to various alliances holding sovereignty in null sec. My request to them is to be placed in a blue status and I have requested permission to rat and mine within their space.
I have yet to receive a response from several but my requests are only a day old. The only alliance that has responded thus far flatly told me that relations with care bears, and the care bears themselves, are worthless.
I guess what I am asking is am I on the right track as a part time player trying to access null sec? Or, is there another way of accessing null sec that I I have yet to learn?
According to the forum rules, I am not allowed to post in CAOD and am referred to Warfare and Tactics which does not seem like the proper forum for my question.
Any help or ideas that you guys have would be great. Oh, and as a novice poster, please be kind as this is a legitimate question.
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Genya Arikaido
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:29:00 -
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Most alliances will allow you to rent a system for your "corp" at rates of 8-15bn ISK/mo. But free blues? *breaks into hysterics and tries determinately to walk away*
 Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Korbin Sabaidich
Caldari
Of Unsound Mind
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Genya Arikaido
Most alliances will allow you to rent a system for your "corp" at rates of 8-15bn ISK/mo. But free blues? *breaks into hysterics and tries determinately to walk away*
Right, so not a chance in hell. Thanks and your reply made me lol.
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Jerunk
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jerunk on 20/07/2010 21:33:33
What can you offer an alliance that gives u blue status in return? If the answer is nothing then you got no chance, your best bet is to try to get to 0.0 without dying, finding a dead end system, and just avoid the locals when they come hunting you, so a cloak will be nessisary.
But what about when i run out of ammo you say? use a drone boat so u can stay in the system indefinatly, without having to run to a npc station to restock.
Ofc this is all mute cus u don't come across as somebody who could avoid a gate camp, so i'm guessing dying on the way will be your route. But good luck.
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Ghaylenty
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ghaylenty on 20/07/2010 21:39:26
make him pay 30% of all corp earnings per month, post the corp wallet every time payment is requested
edit: try hydra recruiting
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Korbin Sabaidich
Caldari
Of Unsound Mind
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jerunk
Edited by: Jerunk on 20/07/2010 21:33:33
What can you offer an alliance that gives u blue status in return? If the answer is nothing then you got no chance, your best bet is to try to get to 0.0 without dying, finding a dead end system, and just avoid the locals when they come hunting you, so a cloak will be nessisary.
But what about when i run out of ammo you say? use a drone boat so u can stay in the system indefinatly, without having to run to a npc station to restock.
Ofc this is all mute cus u don't come across as somebody who could avoid a gate camp, so i'm guessing dying on the way will be your route. But good luck.
I really do not have much, if anything, to offer anyone. You, however, raise another question. The one response I did get ASSUMED I was a care bear but I am unsure as to what it is that I am saying that makes people think that? Avoiding a gate camp is a pretty easy thing to do that, in my experience, just takes a bit of timing and patience. I do appreciate your candor, though. Thank you.
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Ticondrius
Orbital Infinity
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:40:00 -
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Talk to me in game.
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.07.20 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 20/07/2010 21:50:57
Originally by: Korbin Sabaidich
...is there another way of accessing null sec that I I have yet to learn?
Was going to give a whole lot of advice, but actually if you want to solo in 0.0 one thing is all that you need to remember:
Situational awareness.
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Thatkidnamedrocky
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.20 22:03:00 -
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ninja rat 
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BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.07.20 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Korbin Sabaidich
...and the care bears themselves, are worthless.
Anyone who tells you that is a worthless piece of dog crap. If you wanna live your entire game in Empire, no one can tell you that you can't/shouldn't. They are trash...
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Barakkus
Hyasyoda Investments
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Posted - 2010.07.20 22:31:00 -
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I rat solo in null second sometimes. Just pick a deserted system by looking at your map statistics, then plan a route through uninhabited systems. Jumpe into a clean clone and take a dual armor rep cane or something that doesn't need ammo. PVP fit before you go and don't do what I did last time and take a shortcut back through a massive bubble camp.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Namira Sable
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.07.20 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: BrundleMeth
Originally by: Korbin Sabaidich
...and the care bears themselves, are worthless.
Anyone who tells you that is a worthless piece of dog crap. If you wanna live your entire game in Empire, no one can tell you that you can't/shouldn't. They are trash...
Way to fall short of on topic.
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ThrashPower
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.21 00:02:00 -
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m8 0.0 alliances don't any have recruitment standards at all. I am sure you could easily get into any 0.0 alliance in the game as long as you just lie a bit when talking to the recruiter.
And yeah if you don't want to lie, any 0.0 renter-alliance will outright accept you cuz they don't mind casual players. Just make a thread on the recruitment forum regarding what you are looking for.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.07.21 01:00:00 -
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I'd think that some renter corporation might let you join their corporation to help them pay their rent via taxes on your bounties. IDK thought.. just makes sense...haunt recruitment for a while.
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Babel
Utopian Research I.E.L.
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2010.07.21 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 20/07/2010 21:50:57
Originally by: Korbin Sabaidich
...is there another way of accessing null sec that I I have yet to learn?
Was going to give a whole lot of advice, but actually if you want to solo in 0.0 one thing is all that you need to remember:
Situational awareness.
This man speaketh Truth :)
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.21 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: ThrashPower
m8 0.0 alliances don't any have recruitment standards at all. I am sure you could easily get into any 0.0 alliance in the game as long as you just lie a bit when talking to the recruiter.
Just say you're training for Dreads, even if you're not and never will. it's like a free ticket into every 0.0 alliance these days
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Korbin Sabaidich
Caldari
Of Unsound Mind
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Posted - 2010.07.21 15:36:00 -
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Thanks for the great feedback everyone. There is a certain amount of appeal to the stealth ratting suggestions and, I must admit, to the suggestions on how to gain acceptance to certain corporations.
Off topic a bit - Just because a player stays in empire space all the time does not seem to make that player any less effective at anything a null sec player is except maybe for the ability to fly capitals around. Perhaps I need to explore the forums a bit and learn why there is such a division between "High Seccer's" (cearbears?) and "Nuller's".
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Stu Pendisdick
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.07.21 15:47:00 -
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Mate,
There are plenty of folk doing the solo thing in nullsec. Nullsec is mostly empty. Learn to use the starmap. Famiarize yourself with the Dotlan maps. Become intimate with bubble tactics. Learn the value of anchored GSCs. Understand Dscan and how it is used. Learn to recognize probes. Have a cloak. Droneboats are the solo nullsec survivor's friend. Figure out what local traffic patterns are and thrive.
You won't be doing anything new that any number of self reliant, anti-establishment types haven't been doing for years.
Oh.
And keep your damned head down.
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.07.21 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Stu Pendis****
Mate,
There are plenty of folk doing the solo thing in nullsec. Nullsec is mostly empty. Learn to use the starmap. Famiarize yourself with the Dotlan maps. Become intimate with bubble tactics. Learn the value of anchored GSCs. Understand Dscan and how it is used. Learn to recognize probes. Have a cloak. Droneboats are the solo nullsec survivor's friend. Figure out what local traffic patterns are and thrive.
You won't be doing anything new that any number of self reliant, anti-establishment types haven't been doing for years.
Oh.
And keep your damned head down.
Bolded parts will allow you to remain in one system for a very very long time. Anchored GSCs cannot be probed down and are a great place to hold your loot. Use a cloaky transport to get it out. As far as drones go, they speak for themselves in terms of added cost, or lack there of.
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.07.21 15:59:00 -
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I've had some luck finding wormholes out to 0.0.
The bulk of 0 is pretty devoid of life, and wormholes are a convenient way to bypass the chokepoints.
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Eternum Praetorian
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.07.21 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/07/2010 17:47:42
It is about ISK and boredom . . .
Picture if you will a 0.0. lifestyle.
People are either bored because they can't find targets, or they are terrified that a potential hostile will enter their home system and put an end to their ISK farming. What you end up with is an environment where half of everyone just wants more things to shoot at, and the other half just want to horde as much of the resources for themselves that they possibly can.
In both cases, their plans do not include you. You are something to shoot at (bluing you would only serve to remove you as a target) and all of the ISK farmers will have to share their cake with you (and they are like first grade children fighting over a toy) Sharing is just not in the equation, it doesn't matter how many "toys" there are.
Alliance Leadership
Will not show you a shred of courtesy, for the most part they are drunk on power and ontop of that are so paranoid of spies in their midst, that they are like schizophrenics smoking so much crack (Not exaggerating)
All in all, the quality of your post demonstrates intelligence and courtesy--you will get neither from the jaded, ego driven nap train that is the alliances of 0.0. Pretend like you are playing an internet spaceships game with This and you are the only adult here. Then you will start to have a better grasp of the social elements of this game and how it's so called "politics" work.
P.S.
0.0 is overrated anyway . . . 
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Danika Drake
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Posted - 2010.07.21 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/07/2010 17:47:42
It is about ISK and boredom . . .
Picture if you will a 0.0. lifestyle.
People are either bored because they can't find targets, or they are terrified that a potential hostile will enter their home system and put an end to their ISK farming. What you end up with is an environment where half of everyone just wants more things to shoot at, and the other half just want to horde as much of the resources for themselves that they possibly can.
In both cases, their plans do not include you. You are something to shoot at (bluing you would only serve to remove you as a target) and all of the ISK farmers will have to share their cake with you (and they are like first grade children fighting over a toy) Sharing is just not in the equation, it doesn't matter how many "toys" there are.
Alliance Leadership
Will not show you a shred of courtesy, for the most part they are drunk on power and ontop of that are so paranoid of spies in their midst, that they are like schizophrenics smoking so much crack (Not exaggerating)
All in all, the quality of your post demonstrates intelligence and courtesy--you will get neither from the jaded, ego driven nap train that is the alliances of 0.0. Pretend like you are playing an internet spaceships game with This and you are the only adult here. Then you will start to have a better grasp of the social elements of this game and how it's so called "politics" work.
P.S.
0.0 is overrated anyway . . .
+1
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Barakkus
Hyasyoda Investments
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Posted - 2010.07.21 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Korbin Sabaidich
Perhaps I need to explore the forums a bit and learn why there is such a division between "High Seccer's" (cearbears?) and "Nuller's".
It's called the size of the e-peen.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Eternum Praetorian
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.07.21 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/07/2010 19:22:40
Originally by: Korbin Sabaidich
Just because a player stays in empire space all the time does not seem to make that player any less effective at anything a null sec player is except maybe for the ability to fly capitals around. Perhaps I need to explore the forums a bit and learn why there is such a division between "High Seccer's" (cearbears?) and "Nuller's".
There is no difference, people who live in 0.0 will only make empire dwellers like you think that there is. As soon as a single neutral enters a populated system of 50-100 people EVERYONE docks up and hides. The actual percentage of people who actually hop into PVP ships and try to fight back is small, and ultimately what actually wins the battle is how well their single fleet commander can alphabetize his overview and call primary targets.
You would be surprised how hard that last part is for some FC's 
Fail FC's come a dime dozen, and when there is no FC to Shepard the flock, the sheep tend to die horrible blazing deaths, and amount many LOL killmails. If you however are lucky enough to score a good FC . . .
You will be PVPing on team speak and doing this:
FC says "Genya Arikaido, Zealot is primary" -- you target and shoot.
FC says "Jerunk in Hurricane is secondary" -- you target and shoot.
FC says "Eternum Praetorian is Primary" -- you target and shoot.
And so on and so forth into infinity and endless tedium. That really is all you get to do . . .
Even better is that if your flying a capital ship, your alliance will help replace your losses so it won't all have to come out of your own pocket. Oh yes..null sec dwellers are the biggest carebears of them all 
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