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Derekian
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Posted - 2004.12.19 19:36:00 -
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Ok this has been troubling me for a LONG time now 
I am soon finishing Evasive Manuvering to lvl5 and i will start training a frigate skill to lvl5. Before the last patch i had 100% decided to take a crow, but now the crusader seems much better.
So here i am posting and asking your opinion. What would YOU chose?
Help a pirate in need 
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Derekian
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Posted - 2004.12.19 19:36:00 -
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Ok this has been troubling me for a LONG time now 
I am soon finishing Evasive Manuvering to lvl5 and i will start training a frigate skill to lvl5. Before the last patch i had 100% decided to take a crow, but now the crusader seems much better.
So here i am posting and asking your opinion. What would YOU chose?
Help a pirate in need 
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.12.19 19:43:00 -
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I've always felt that the Crusader was vastly superior to the Crow, even before the propulsion changes, even before the laser buffs - must have killed nearly twenty Crows with my Crusader now.
With the propulsion changes, the Crusader's easily your best bet. It's always been the best anti-interceptor interceptor, and anyone who disputes this statement is clueless.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.12.19 19:43:00 -
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I've always felt that the Crusader was vastly superior to the Crow, even before the propulsion changes, even before the laser buffs - must have killed nearly twenty Crows with my Crusader now.
With the propulsion changes, the Crusader's easily your best bet. It's always been the best anti-interceptor interceptor, and anyone who disputes this statement is clueless.
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Karkazz
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Posted - 2004.12.19 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Karkazz on 19/12/2004 21:51:44 thought i cared enough to write something, seems that i dont.
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Karkazz
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Posted - 2004.12.19 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Karkazz on 19/12/2004 21:51:44 thought i cared enough to write something, seems that i dont.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2004.12.19 20:39:00 -
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i remember a crusader that destroyed my crow b4 i launched a single missile, yes, one shot from each of its weapons n went down. Crusader looks better also.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2004.12.19 20:39:00 -
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i remember a crusader that destroyed my crow b4 i launched a single missile, yes, one shot from each of its weapons n went down. Crusader looks better also.
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:11:00 -
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Kark, the original poster probably wasn't considering spending many many times the price of the inty to fit it out 
I always find that funny. "Spend 100 mil and this inty will rock!" 
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:11:00 -
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Kark, the original poster probably wasn't considering spending many many times the price of the inty to fit it out 
I always find that funny. "Spend 100 mil and this inty will rock!" 
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Karkazz
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Karkazz on 19/12/2004 21:22:02
Originally by: Aegis Osiris Kark, the original poster probably wasn't considering spending many many times the price of the inty to fit it out 
I always find that funny. "Spend 100 mil and this inty will rock!" 
It will rock , more so than any other inty that has spent the same amount of cash.
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Karkazz
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Karkazz on 19/12/2004 21:22:02
Originally by: Aegis Osiris Kark, the original poster probably wasn't considering spending many many times the price of the inty to fit it out 
I always find that funny. "Spend 100 mil and this inty will rock!" 
It will rock , more so than any other inty that has spent the same amount of cash.
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:22:00 -
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Derekian!! get the crusader!! the crusader.. superior in speed, looks, defence.. it can go long range and short range..
the only diadvantage is that it cannot do more than 2 damage types like the crow.
we can play in pf together! <3 ----- ----- -----
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:22:00 -
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Derekian!! get the crusader!! the crusader.. superior in speed, looks, defence.. it can go long range and short range..
the only diadvantage is that it cannot do more than 2 damage types like the crow.
we can play in pf together! <3 ----- ----- -----
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mrbabooon
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:28:00 -
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neither..with the new need to use a mwd you get hit by the biggest cruiser guns..and a bs even managed to hit me in my crusader as soon as i dropped below 2 km/s while orbiting (and cruise missiles hit you)..inters, as much as i hate to whine, have become pretty well expensive frigs and are no more than that.. (wow you have tiny sig radius and strap a mwd on, makes sense huh?)
it defeats the point.
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mrbabooon
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:28:00 -
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neither..with the new need to use a mwd you get hit by the biggest cruiser guns..and a bs even managed to hit me in my crusader as soon as i dropped below 2 km/s while orbiting (and cruise missiles hit you)..inters, as much as i hate to whine, have become pretty well expensive frigs and are no more than that.. (wow you have tiny sig radius and strap a mwd on, makes sense huh?)
it defeats the point.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:36:00 -
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Weirda disagree with mrbaboon. There are few cruiser guns that can hit you when orbitting - even without mwd (use it to approach and turn it off).
As for the crow - Weirda find that it's best to use a malediction, then you can throw a sensor dampener in the middle. Targetting range is so short, they will inevitably end up in webber range and you *will* wtfpwn them... (This was true prior to the propultion changes as well...)... -- Thread Killer
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Weirda
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Posted - 2004.12.19 21:36:00 -
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Weirda disagree with mrbaboon. There are few cruiser guns that can hit you when orbitting - even without mwd (use it to approach and turn it off).
As for the crow - Weirda find that it's best to use a malediction, then you can throw a sensor dampener in the middle. Targetting range is so short, they will inevitably end up in webber range and you *will* wtfpwn them... (This was true prior to the propultion changes as well...)... -- Thread Killer
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Berilac
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Posted - 2004.12.19 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aegis Osiris Kark, the original poster probably wasn't considering spending many many times the price of the inty to fit it out 
I always find that funny. "Spend 100 mil and this inty will rock!" 
the cost of my setup and crusader costs about as much as buying a crow, and everything is available on market or escrow 23/7. --- 'Sweeden Steel Bite hard'
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Berilac
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Posted - 2004.12.19 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aegis Osiris Kark, the original poster probably wasn't considering spending many many times the price of the inty to fit it out 
I always find that funny. "Spend 100 mil and this inty will rock!" 
the cost of my setup and crusader costs about as much as buying a crow, and everything is available on market or escrow 23/7. --- 'Sweeden Steel Bite hard'
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2004.12.20 00:48:00 -
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Crow pilot here...Crusaders can kill crows without -that- much probs (but you must use top of the line t2 items and guns), but that won't be as taken for granted as it is now when t2 launchers come out  --------------------------------------
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2004.12.20 00:48:00 -
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Crow pilot here...Crusaders can kill crows without -that- much probs (but you must use top of the line t2 items and guns), but that won't be as taken for granted as it is now when t2 launchers come out  --------------------------------------
We are The Collective. Resistance is futile. |

Derekian
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Posted - 2004.12.20 07:47:00 -
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Thx all for replying 
I was leaning to the Crusader more anyway
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Derekian
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Posted - 2004.12.20 07:47:00 -
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Thx all for replying 
I was leaning to the Crusader more anyway
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:15:00 -
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it's ok, just don't "lean on me" when you see me in pf... 
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:15:00 -
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it's ok, just don't "lean on me" when you see me in pf... 
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa Crow pilot here...Crusaders can kill crows without -that- much probs (but you must use top of the line t2 items and guns), but that won't be as taken for granted as it is now when t2 launchers come out 
Let's just hope the soon (tm) to come tech II launchers will have requirements just as horrible as the tech II guns. Might take some time before we see tech II Siege Launchers then.
Then again, knowing CPP, they'll probably just ask for Missile Launcher Operation 5 and Weapon Upgrades 4 to be able to fit tech II launchers.... ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?" |

Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa Crow pilot here...Crusaders can kill crows without -that- much probs (but you must use top of the line t2 items and guns), but that won't be as taken for granted as it is now when t2 launchers come out 
Let's just hope the soon (tm) to come tech II launchers will have requirements just as horrible as the tech II guns. Might take some time before we see tech II Siege Launchers then.
Then again, knowing CPP, they'll probably just ask for Missile Launcher Operation 5 and Weapon Upgrades 4 to be able to fit tech II launchers.... ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?" |

Ghost Red
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:00:00 -
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Its all about the pilot, not the ship. --------------------------------------------
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2004.12.20 10:00:00 -
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Its all about the pilot, not the ship. --------------------------------------------
Misomusic! |
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