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R0ze
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.07.25 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Let us consider who HYDRA are.
And no matter what you say Hydra has still been better allie found in hardships than some of the well known Amarr "loyalists" which aren't able to move their allready fat asses either because have lost all skills of pluging back into the pod or are just hypocrites which rather than stepping up end up scribling some nonsense..
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William Pierce
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Posted - 2010.07.25 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: R0ze
Originally by: Rodj Blake Let us consider who HYDRA are.
scribling some nonsense
Too funny...
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Nefher Zhila
Amarr Khar Orda
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Posted - 2010.07.25 02:26:00 -
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Once again IĘm baffled by PIEą
Why not take Lord Alistair words under advice and leave politics to its participants?
What purpose does this communication serve?!
Do you intend on smearing CVAs image by drawing the attention of its enemies and placing the CVAs executors name side by side with an ignominious treachery act?! I really canĘt understand the incautious ways in which PIE made this communication without the maturity to leave such requests in private and not in the public eye, instead placing such events in reach of those who will only seek this as another opportunity to smear the Curatores image.
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Xenea
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.25 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nefher Zhila Once again IĘm baffled by PIEą
What purpose does this communication serve?!
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2010.07.25 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Snakester
Originally by: Butter Dog However, be assured that we will regain control of lost systems soon. .
Will you be taking KBP of your friends?, as it seems Daisho have dropped SBU's there.
We're unable to drop SBU's ourselves, being without an alliance ticker.
We are thankful to our Providence allies for assisting us in the reclaiming of what is ours - they did this with our full knowledge and thanks.
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Ospie
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.07.25 12:06:00 -
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Core Impulse is willing to accept this change in circumstances and will support CVA in the retaking of Providence. Fortunatly CVA is able to see that it must sometimes make compromises for the greater good of the Empire, something that some other parties seem blindly ignorant to.
Ironically these same corporations, those who are dissatisfied with CVA choices, who claim to pledge service to the Amarr Empire are eager to fly under the leadership of Core Impulse, a corporation which has indulged in extensive pirating throughout its existence. Indeed Core Impulse has done more in the service of the Amarr Empire in recent times than these so called loyalists can claim to have done, we have led the Amarr Militia to a new age of success.
Perhaps these Militia corporations would prefer to revert back to such dark times when the Amarr Militia was struggling to stand up against the Minmatar onslaught, when they wouldn't take help from the outlaw supporters of the Empire.
Perhaps these same subjects ought to focus on their own demonstrations of loyalty to the Amarr Empire before questioning those of CVA.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.07.25 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ospie Indeed Core Impulse has done more in the service of the Amarr Empire in recent times than these so called loyalists can claim to have done, we have led the Amarr Militia to a new age of success.
Perhaps these Militia corporations would prefer to revert back to such dark times when the Amarr Militia was struggling to stand up against the Minmatar onslaught, when they wouldn't take help from the outlaw supporters of the Empire.
I would back track a bit here bud. I will admit that Core Impulse has done very well in the Amarr militia, but stating you have done more than the loyalist core is complete bullsh*t. Sure Core impulse is leading in kills atm, but considering that there are 5 loyalist corps, all part of the CONFIDO I might add, in the top 8 is a great feat. Especially considering that a good majority of us run the complex's daily and still manage to find time to fleet and kill the enemy.
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Roboplegic
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.25 14:26:00 -
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I hope that providence will once again be Amarrian. And be an open free space for any peace-loving pod pilot. I'm an Amarrian Athiest, but providence should have maintained civility and stability in its systems for its people and others who wish to reside peacefully in its region, not for religious excuses but for the moral principles owed to the people of Eden.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Roboplegic I hope that providence will once again be Amarrian. And be an open free space for any peace-loving pod pilot. I'm an Amarrian Athiest, but providence should have maintained civility and stability in its systems for its people and others who wish to reside peacefully in its region, not for religious excuses but for the moral principles owed to the people of Eden.
I'm sure a man (aralis) who has profitted from betrayal, backstabbing, misuse of alliance administration and is fully reliant on the military support of pirates, corp-thieves, scammers and general bottom-feeding trash is the ideal figurehead for a resurgent peace-loving and stable Providence right?
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.07.25 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Roboplegic I hope that providence will once again be Amarrian. And be an open free space for any peace-loving pod pilot. I'm an Amarrian Athiest, but providence should have maintained civility and stability in its systems for its people and others who wish to reside peacefully in its region, not for religious excuses but for the moral principles owed to the people of Eden.
I'm sure a man (aralis) who has profitted from betrayal, backstabbing, misuse of alliance administration and is fully reliant on the military support of pirates, corp-thieves, scammers and general bottom-feeding trash is the ideal figurehead for a resurgent peace-loving and stable Providence right?
I doupth they are in need of your services Jade.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 14:49:00 -
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If I wanted the opinion of a nobody I'd dial 0800-WASTE-OF-SKIN.
Spare us your insipid attempts to emulate the goons.
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.07.25 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
If I wanted the opinion of a nobody I'd dial 0800-WASTE-OF-SKIN.
Spare us your insipid attempts to emulate the goons.
Only if you spare us your constant bithcing
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.07.25 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Invelious on 25/07/2010 15:47:00
Originally by: Jade Constantine
If I wanted the opinion of a nobody I'd dial 0800-WASTE-OF-SKIN.
Spare us your insipid attempts to emulate the goons.
Hands down, this is the most pathetic retort from you to date Jadder. I'm loving the fact that you and the rest of the UK bandwagon are reeling in irritation at the fact that you took providence only to watch it wash away in a day because the UK lacked any level of proper security to maintain their own alliance.
edit: just a correction, when I say "took providence" I meant given, by AAA of course.
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Ddial Chan Annwn Annwn Matari
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Posted - 2010.07.25 16:19:00 -
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And how is that any different than buying Providence from HYDRA? CVA won't attack U'K sov...why do you think that is?
Such interesting times... ------------------------------------------------
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dunn Idaho Only if you spare us your constant bithcing
I have no idea what that even is.
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Kaimar Redcloud
Gallente Beagle Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.25 17:01:00 -
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It's truly amazing (and hysterical) watching slavers trade barbs about "honor" with pirates. U'K, I hope you regain thru combat what was lost thru treachery. Anything that confounds the empire and sends the religious leaders into apopleptic fits while aiding the oppressed Minmatar people deserves unfailing support. Drunken lowsec pilot extraordinaire |
Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaimar Redcloud It's truly amazing (and hysterical) watching slavers trade barbs about "honor" with pirates. U'K, I hope you regain thru combat what was lost thru treachery. Anything that confounds the empire and sends the religious leaders into apopleptic fits while aiding the oppressed Minmatar people deserves unfailing support.
And Ushra'Khan using spies on CVA voice comms, bumping capitals out of shields with POS passwords gained from spying, using in corp double-agents to tackle freighters on jump bridges, is honourable? Honour is a lot like respect, you tend to receive the same amount back as you give. CVA are merely taking an advantage of Ushra'Khans own failing in corporate infrastructure. The only thing Aralis knew was that it was going to happen 2 days in advance, and he was sworn to secrecy. And if you actually read what he wrote, his plan is basically to continue as he normally would.
Additionally, can someone explain to me how this is any different than Star Fraction taking advantage of the burnt out director, gelo breen in Sev3rance to offline a POS, other than the scale. It's the same thing. You're all worthless hypocrites. You cannot see the truth beyond someone's corporate tickers. ---
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Fates Assembly The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.07.25 22:37:00 -
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I get the sense you are already starting to feel the reward of being an honorless cull. brace yourself suitonia, it is just going to get worse with each retelling.
Notice how the mob doesnĘt fear your nano hac skills? What you couldnĘt take by combat you canĘt hold by mockery and forum spam and cynabals.
Originally by: Suitonia
Additionally, can someone explain to me how this is any different than Star Fraction taking advantage of the burnt out director, gelo breen in Sev3rance to offline a POS, other than the scale. It's the same thing. You're all worthless hypocrites. You cannot see the truth beyond someone's corporate tickers.
as the person who made the calls with that, I can clarify that is not what occurred. If you bothered to read a certain garbageąer scrapheap forum your oh-so-honorable alliance mates populate you could ask the mastermind herself what she did and how and why and that I rejected skullduggery. All we actually did was shoot a few bombs at a pile of shuttles that had shot out of some array well after the factąand that was only for entertainment value and a funny screen shot (which is available in a separate section of these very forums)
So please direct your queries there rather than pretend like you have a clue what happened. ********************************
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.25 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Suitonia on 25/07/2010 23:02:59
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss I get the sense you are already starting to feel the reward of being an honorless cull. brace yourself suitonia, it is just going to get worse with each retelling.
Notice how the mob doesnĘt fear your nano hac skills? What you couldnĘt take by combat you canĘt hold by mockery and forum spam and cynabals.
Originally by: Suitonia
Additionally, can someone explain to me how this is any different than Star Fraction taking advantage of the burnt out director, gelo breen in Sev3rance to offline a POS, other than the scale. It's the same thing. You're all worthless hypocrites. You cannot see the truth beyond someone's corporate tickers.
as the person who made the calls with that, I can clarify that is not what occurred. If you bothered to read a certain garbageąer scrapheap forum your oh-so-honorable alliance mates populate you could ask the mastermind herself what she did and how and why and that I rejected skullduggery. All we actually did was shoot a few bombs at a pile of shuttles that had shot out of some array well after the factąand that was only for entertainment value and a funny screen shot (which is available in a separate section of these very forums)
So please direct your queries there rather than pretend like you have a clue what happened.
Do you want me to post the un-edited screenshot Sofia Roseburn posted prior to removing it about 5 minutes after?
Are you trying to take Garst Tyrall's title or something? ---
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:07:00 -
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Post whatever you want Hydra dog. That you are trying to draw a comparison between SF blowing up some shuttles and frigates ejected from a ship maintenance array by a disgruntled Sev3rance director and Aralis of the CVA being complicit in grand corp theft, sabotage, betrayal, treachery and ending the oldest alliance in Eve through dishonest means is beyond pathetic.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia
The only thing Aralis knew was that it was going to happen 2 days in advance, and he was sworn to secrecy. And if you actually read what he wrote, his plan is basically to continue as he normally would.
Additionally, can someone explain to me how this is any different than Star Fraction taking advantage of the burnt out director, gelo breen in Sev3rance to offline a POS, other than the scale. It's the same thing. You're all worthless hypocrites. You cannot see the truth beyond someone's corporate tickers.
Well, let's see: we didn't know in advance about it, we didn't ask for the starbase to be offlined, we didn't touch the starbase and we didn't do anything other than shoot at a few enemy assets in space left floating around after someone decided at whim to shut the thing down.
Here's the thing, it's not comparable in any way, shape, size or form. We're not talking today about some alliance member offlining a starbase in a fit of pique and then telling various people there are a few enemy assets in space to be shot at.
We're talking about someone deliberately planning to effectively disband an alliance, take their outposts and claim their sovereignty by spending months and months of trust like it was cheap coin in a dockyard brothel.
What's our position? We don't use infiltrators to sabotage other people's infrastructure. We don't use infiltrators to steal from corporations and alliances. We don't use infiltrators to sabotage alliance communications. We don't use infiltrators to sabotage and dissolve an alliance. That's our position and we will never move from it.
You've usefully told us that Aralis knew about this 2 days in advance, in effect he was party to the planning and through him the entire CVA were. Don't dare to try and compare this base act of treachery with an incidental episode with a starbase that someone offlined at a whim. It's ridiculous.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:26:00 -
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Sure thing Jade, I'll play. It was a great deal more than shuttles, take a look at your own screenshot and you were ready, outside the POS, before it was even deactivated, you were prepared to take advantage of the situation, and if I remember correctly, you were bragging about stealing some ships before sev3rance was able to get a defence fleet together and camp the ships, you then did a large ditch effort and bombed what you could, when they had the Dital gate and the POS under control.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia Sure thing Jade, I'll play. It was a great deal more than shuttles, take a look at your own screenshot and you were ready, outside the POS, before it was even deactivated, you were prepared to take advantage of the situation, and if I remember correctly, you were bragging about stealing some ships before sev3rance was able to get a defence fleet together and camp the ships, you then did a large ditch effort and bombed what you could, when they had the Dital gate and the POS under control.
We blew up some small ships and shuttles as far as I can remember (feel free to check out killboard). Not sure what your screen shot is supposed to prove. Thats a pos with its shields up. You are appearing very desperate and incapable of making any kind of point here.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Suitonia on 25/07/2010 23:35:41
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Suitonia Sure thing Jade, I'll play. It was a great deal more than shuttles, take a look at your own screenshot and you were ready, outside the POS, before it was even deactivated, you were prepared to take advantage of the situation, and if I remember correctly, you were bragging about stealing some ships before sev3rance was able to get a defence fleet together and camp the ships, you then did a large ditch effort and bombed what you could, when they had the Dital gate and the POS under control.
We blew up some small ships and shuttles as far as I can remember (feel free to check out killboard). Not sure what your screen shot is supposed to prove. Thats a pos with its shields up. You are appearing very desperate and incapable of making any kind of point here.
You quoted me before I edited, but check out the link here, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1269409&page=1#1, it is a screenshot of all the ships prior to the POS shield being deactivated, and shows an agent of yours outside the POS ready in a stealth bomber. In the same transmission your agent claims he had been in prior contact with Gelo Breen to organise the event, and that you successfully stole some 220~ million isk worth of ships.
He also claims, and I quote " The glorious pilots of the revolution had caused untold BILLIONS worth of damage to the group ". If you have done billions of damage, it's hardly shuttles you have destroyed, is it. ---
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Fates Assembly The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 25/07/2010 23:42:32 those were not there when I was there, so you are either a liar posting trash or an idiot posting from before we even found out.
I'm leaning towards idiot because the responsible alliance took credit on these forum and that alliance was not SF. We happened upon a traitor acting with low honor and did not take advantage.
edit: read your own link, post 39...the person responsible says themselves they are not affiliated with SF. Had SF been in control of this action it would have done exactly as it did (which was to not take advantage of treachery)
keep dolling out rope to hang yourself chica.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 25/07/2010 23:42:26
Originally by: Suitonia
You quoted me before I edited, but check out the link here, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1269409&page=1#1, it is a screenshot of all the ships prior to the POS shield being deactivated, and shows an agent of yours outside the POS ready in a stealth bomber. In the same transmission your agent claims he had been in prior contact with Gelo Breen to organise the event, and that you successfully stole some 220~ million isk worth of ships.
Wasn't our agent. VERDA has nothing to do with the Star Fraction and I have no idea if their press release was accurate or not. If you took the time to read the thread you linked you'd see their spokeperson saying just this.
We were told that a number of light vessels owned by a war enemy were vulnerable to attack in KBP. We bombed them.
Quote: He also claims, and I quote " The glorious pilots of the revolution had caused untold BILLIONS worth of damage to the group ". If you have done billions of damage, it's hardly shuttles you have destroyed, is it.
We take absolutely no responsibility for the claims made by a 3rd party with no connection to the Fraction.
An enemy alliance had ships in space that we could destroy. We destroyed what we could. End of story.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:42:00 -
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I am posting exactly what Sofia Roseburn's proxy posted. Sofia Roseburn largely took credit for the situation, posting on Scrapheap Challenge, and the summit communication I had previously linked. If you want to challenge that it is not Sofia's proxy, and the fact the screenshot in question is a picture from Sofia Roseburns camera drone, I'm done communicating with you. ---
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:43:00 -
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What agent?
This is drivel. First it is Gelo Breen, now it is an agent? You're becoming a bit like Archbishop.
This VERDA is nothing to do with us. As far as we know various people found out about the starbase being offlined at the same time. All you show is a screenshot of someone looking at a starbase with its shields up and with various ships in it.
I have to tell you, our pilots regularly looked at enemy starbases through our time fighting Se3verance. It's not a big surprise we happened upon this incident.
Ultimately, we didn't know in advance or have any part in soliciting any offlining of starbases. It's a very different case to someone treacherously disbanding the Ushra'Khan, stealing multiple outposts and launching an invasion alongside the CVA, which knew about it and planned for it in advance.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Fates Assembly The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Wasn't our agent. VERDA has nothing to do with the Star Fraction and I have no idea if their press release was accurate or not. If you took the time to read the thread you linked you'd see their spokeperson saying just this.
We were told that a number of light vessels owned by a war enemy were vulnerable to attack in KBP. We bombed them.
match, point, set.
now back to Hydra having to use low skullduggery to do what they couldn't do in space. ********************************
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.26 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite What agent?
This is drivel. First it is Gelo Breen, now it is an agent? You're becoming a bit like Archbishop.
This VERDA is nothing to do with us. As far as we know various people found out about the starbase being offlined at the same time. All you show is a screenshot of someone looking at a starbase with its shields up and with various ships in it.
I have to tell you, our pilots regularly looked at enemy starbases through our time fighting Se3verance. It's not a big surprise we happened upon this incident.
Ultimately, we didn't know in advance or have any part in soliciting any offlining of starbases. It's a very different case to someone treacherously disbanding the Ushra'Khan, stealing multiple outposts and launching an invasion alongside the CVA, which knew about it and planned for it in advance.
The Cosmopolite
Fact 1: The Screenshot I posted is a picture taken from the Camera Drone of Sofia Roseburn. At that point a member of the Star Fraction. Check the top right corner of the image for Sofia's unique camera drone identification tag.
Fact 2: The Screenshot was posted by the CEO of Verda Industries, who is the proxy of Sofia Roseburn. Who took credit for the event. Please not that Sofia Roseburn took credit for the event on the Scrapheap Challenge communication website. Thus, Sofia Roseburn is Jessica Ovarde, on several scrapheap challenge threads, Sofia claims he is the CEO of Verda. I trust at this point you'll stop the spin, but I'll dig out and link the threads if you want to play that game, The Garst'Tyrellpolite.
Fact 3: Using the facts listed above, it is beyond reasonable doubt that Sofia Roseburn committed this act, while being a full fledged member of the Star Fraction. Stealing 220 million worth of ships, and destroying over "billions" of ships with a Star Fraction bombing run, I would like to remind you that he claims that Star Fraction were very much involved, and that despite Jades claim of "check our killboard" I would like to reiterate that ejected ships do not generate such CONCORD mails as they do not belong to any pilots, but belong to the corporation, as such Star Fraction do not appear on any killmails relating to any ships that were stored in the maintenance array.
Fact 4: The pilot flying the Stolen Devoter mentioned in Sofia Roseburns AKA Jessica Ovarde details of the event is a pilot in the Star Fraction http://www.jericho-fraction.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14882 I would also like to point out the first comment made by him admiting it was stolen.
Fact 5: Sofia Roseburn also posted a screen shot of the wrecks on his overview after the bombing run, you can clearly see several elite frigate wrecks, combined with the claims of Sofia Roseburn doing "billions in damage", and that ejected ships from ship maintenance arrays, and that Sofia Roseburn was in a stealth bomber prior to the event as posted by his own camera drones. according to your killboard you lost several bombers during this time, and also, bombed some shuttles that were likely not ejected and just unmanned in the POS prior to the event, it is beyond reasonable doubt that Star Fraction did the mentioned billions of damage.
I think we can safely say that Star Fraction was "very much involved" in this act, given the facts above, Sofias posting, and admiting to be Jessica in recruitment posts.
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