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homopate Jouhinen Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:22:00 - [1] - Quote the rumour is that huns had theyre tengu dropped on grid with all mods/subs offline and ccp did not allow them to fix it before the fight. i want a rematch! and ye gf ccp you won the match. i want the OLD inventory. make a buttomn to take it back just like the walk in station feature.
homopate Jouhinen Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:27:00 - [2] - Quote just look at the past matches those vargurs didnt tank ** in that fight. just like the tengu didnt have boosts. well it had its mods offline. i want the OLD inventory. make a buttomn to take it back just like the walk in station feature.**
Professor Clio Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 33	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:46:00 - [3] - Quote Somehow doubt it, but even if that were true, it would be their own fault for not checking that the subs/mods were online in station before being teleported to the AT system.
StarFleetCommander V0LTA Verge of Collapse 18	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:46:00 - [4] - Quote we had like 10 mins of waiting nuff said :P
Alekto Descendant Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 44	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:47:00 - [5] - Quote 1. post on your main, you spineless coward 2. tell your worthless tengu pilot to turn his **** on while hes in station. everyone else figured out how to do it. 3. i have no three, just stop bitching. tia
Casey Hija 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 0	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:53:00 - [6] - Quote Alekto Descendant wrote: 1. post on your main, you spineless coward 2. tell your worthless tengu pilot to turn his **** on while hes in station. everyone else figured out how to do it. 3. i have no three, just stop bitching. tia Some1 is mad!
Retkipeli FREE GATES HUN Reloaded 1	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:55:00 - [7] - Quote as a member of the team, i heard that on ts during the fight, but imo we lost simply because we got overconfident, made mistakes and didnt pull this fight off as well as we did vs godfathers for example. imo this was a setup we shouldve beaten easily but didnt, well done verge, but i really feel that we mostly have ourselves to blame for ******* it up. /r
Rroff The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services 23	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:55:00 - [8] - Quote To be fair there is a fairly rare bug where pilot skills are "forgotten" and not applied to the ship after a move sometimes thats only solved by relogging... if it was a problem that was brought up and CCP didn't let them resolve it then thats pretty poor - but as the VoC guys said there was plenty of time when they could have brought that up and got it solved if it did really happen.
Lady Naween Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 37	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:56:00 - [9] - Quote why should there be a rematch? there was no rematch for disconnected ships etc. **** happens. move on :)
David Godfrey V0LTA Verge of Collapse 0	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:58:00 - [10] - Quote At the start all my modules in the mid slots where offline just turned them on. We had 10mins in which we could discuss any issues and get them resolved. [img]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f183/jdenism/nyx1.jpg[/img]
Gods Coldblood AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 63	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:02:00 - [11] - Quote You can cry as much as you want, just like i want to cry that WE in fact as V.O.C only had one 12v12 testing session through the whole tourney.. But hey just like everyone has thought about us, WE SUCK My lastest video:-áBoom
SupaFlyTNT Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse 0	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:04:00 - [12] - Quote yer the Exodus match I arrived with 4 mods offline - checked over 9000 times before we moved so they were fine before then. Just about had time to sort it , albeit at the loss of many boosters which led to some scary moments when neuted
HandofSatan V0LTA Verge of Collapse 0	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:37:00 - [13] - Quote Retkipeli wrote: as a member of the team, i heard that on ts during the fight, but imo we lost simply because we got overconfident, made mistakes and didnt pull this fight off as well as we did vs godfathers for example. imo this was a setup we shouldve beaten easily but didnt, well done verge, but i really feel that we mostly have ourselves to blame for ******* it up. /r Most underestimate piloting skill when they take set ups into consideration. What might work for some or vs some might not work well for others. Take Darkside., they fought us with a minnie rush vs our high dps gallente set up and failed. Darkside. have great pilots not to take anything away from them, but we managed to win a similar fight vs Rote. high dps gallente with our minnie rush set up. VoC has tons of great pilots that were able to compete and practice against, not to mention are used to flying in small gangs relying on each other to over come the hiccups. Not everything goes according to plan and regardless of that bonus tengu I still feel HUN had a very strong team and could have won had they did a few things differently, if it were reversed im positive VoC would have came out with a win.

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance 1409	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:46:00 - [14] - Quote Retkipeli wrote: as a member of the team, i heard that on ts during the fight, but imo we lost simply because we got overconfident, made mistakes and didnt pull this fight off as well as we did vs godfathers for example. imo this was a setup we shouldve beaten easily but didnt, well done verge, but i really feel that we mostly have ourselves to blame for ******* it up. /r You guys were awesome and we really look forward to seeing you, and all the other great teams, at the next tournament <3 CCP Navigator -Community Manager

Ecaterina Andronescu AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 0	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:48:00 - [15] - Quote In the semi-finals when i got transported i had no overview and the background was all black. I told the FC... he told the GM .. and i had time to relog and all was fine. In the finals there was 10 mins + to sort out any problems after beeing moved. CCP was very permisive on this. They even moved a fleet member that dc-ed before the fleet was moved. and he got moved after the main group. Always check the mods 9000 times before and after you are transported. Anyway, great run HUN... awsome tournament... cant wait for you next year, as im sure it will be greater
Markus Reese Incertae Sedis Cascade Imminent 254	Posted - 2012.07.23 05:59:00 - [16] - Quote Gods Coldblood wrote: You can cry as much as you want, just like i want to cry that WE in fact as V.O.C only had one 12v12 testing session through the whole tourney.. But hey just like everyone has thought about us, WE SUCK Is why I always route for the underdog. The mega alliances get out of practice for the small gang. Even during practice, you cannot practice the unpredictable. You guys live the small gang and having to adapt and know how to handle it. Personally, I think you had the advantage for this reason. PL, Test alot of the other favorites I am sure have the small gang runners, but they survive in large gang. GJ guys!
Shonion FREE GATES HUN Reloaded 2	Posted - 2012.07.23 06:12:00 - [17] - Quote Congratulation to Verge again. As much i know about it, the tengu subs didn't worked well. The only think you can check if you watch it again, that the tengu's missle don't fly enought far. (like 30-50km) Also, because those are subs and not mods there are no way you can reallize it if its not working. Anyway. The tournament over. I'm satisfied with the result. See you on the Alliance Tournament XI.
Tusko Hopkins HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded 10	Posted - 2012.07.23 06:52:00 - [18] - Quote Verge did their homework and brought a great counter which worked like a charm. Having the Tengu there would have changed the course of the match but not necessarily the outcome. Enjoy your win, Verge, you deserved it!
tasman devil Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded 26	Posted - 2012.07.23 06:55:00 - [19] - Quote Shonion wrote: Congratulation to Verge again. As much i know about it, the tengu subs didn't worked well. The only think you can check if you watch it again, that the tengu's missle don't fly enought far. (like 30-50km) Also, because those are subs and not mods there are no way you can reallize it if its not working. Anyway. The tournament over. I'm satisfied with the result. See you on the Alliance Tournament XI. I'd still like to see a rematch on that, but yeah. SUCKS to fight with offlined subs... I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp 57	Posted - 2012.07.23 07:31:00 - [20] - Quote tasman devil wrote: Shonion wrote: Congratulation to Verge again. As much i know about it, the tengu subs didn't worked well. The only think you can check if you watch it again, that the tengu's missle don't fly enought far. (like 30-50km) Also, because those are subs and not mods there are no way you can reallize it if its not working. Anyway. The tournament over. I'm satisfied with the result. See you on the Alliance Tournament XI. I'd still like to see a rematch on that, but yeah. SUCKS to fight with offlined subs... Just an idea, how about if the two team does the fight on Sisi once more, same pilots, same fits. Would be interested to see, what would happen.
Terios Corvalis HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded 15	Posted - 2012.07.23 07:54:00 - [21] - Quote Guys, to clear things up: every module seemed to be online in the highs/mids/lows. The problem was: the subsystem's bonuses simply didn't apply: so basically it was flying a tengu with 50km range, 200dps, 0 gang bonuses. I had absolutely no feedback, that the subsystems were down. The only way to detect this error would have been: clicking show info on my launchers, multiply missile flight time with missile speed and see if its over 120+ km. Don't tell me, that you did that all on all your ships... Now imagine you are the FC, you have to co-ordinate the fleet and in the middle of that system's start malfunctioning on your ship, targeting range as well, so I couldn't see hows to primary going. First I tried to load different missiles, shooting different targets, it didn't help. It took about 2 mins to realize what was wrong, that was way too much time to lose on a tourney. Basicly it was my fault, because the whole thing broke up my co-ordination, and I couldn't lead the fleet efficiently.
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp 57	Posted - 2012.07.23 08:31:00 - [22] - Quote [quote=Terios Corvalis]Guys, to clear things up: every module seemed to be online in the highs/mids/lows. The problem was: the subsystem's bonuses simply didn't apply: so basically it was flying a tengu with 50km range, 200dps, 0 gang bonuses. I had absolutely no feedback, that the subsystems were down. The only way to detect this error would have been: clicking show info on my launchers, multiply missile flight time with missile speed and see if its over 120+ km. Don't tell me, that you did that all on all your ships.../quote] Maybe a new rule for AT XI : After teleport log off and log back?
Hatsumi Kobayashi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 146	Posted - 2012.07.23 08:35:00 - [23] - Quote Terios Corvalis wrote: Guys, to clear things up: every module seemed to be online in the highs/mids/lows. The problem was: the subsystem's bonuses simply didn't apply: so basically it was flying a tengu with 50km range, 200dps, 0 gang bonuses. I had absolutely no feedback, that the subsystems were down. The only way to detect this error would have been: clicking show info on my launchers, multiply missile flight time with missile speed and see if its over 120+ km. Don't tell me, that you did that all on all your ships... Now imagine you are the FC, you have to co-ordinate the fleet and in the middle of that system's start malfunctioning on your ship, targeting range as well, so I couldn't see hows to primary going. First I tried to load different missiles, shooting different targets, it didn't help. It took about 2 mins to realize what was wrong, that was way too much time to lose on a tourney. Basicly it was my fault, because the whole thing broke up my co-ordination, and I couldn't lead the fleet efficiently. I used the Sphere on you as revenge for my griffin's death. CAUTION SNIGGS
Terios Corvalis HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded 15	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:02:00 - [24] - Quote Nah, it was the Soundwave-curse at it's finest.
Gibbo3771 AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 159	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:58:00 - [25] - Quote My MSE was offline at the start as well. However with the 6-7 minutes waiting at the beacon then the 10-15 waiting in the arena. We got everything sorted. Seems like something you would do before the match starts, make sure everyone is getting bonus'. I personally think you are just whining but whatever, was a good match. Quote: The only way to detect this error would have been: clicking show info on my launchers, multiply missile flight time with missile speed and see if its over 120+ km. Don't tell me, that you did that all on all your ships... Well we were flying a turret setup so we did, had to make sure everyone knew there ranges well and how to handle being TD'd. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
Officer Nyota Uhura 267	Posted - 2012.07.23 10:32:00 - [26] - Quote Terios Corvalis wrote: Guys, to clear things up: every module seemed to be online in the highs/mids/lows. The problem was: the subsystem's bonuses simply didn't apply: so basically it was flying a tengu with 50km range, 200dps, 0 gang bonuses. I had absolutely no feedback, that the subsystems were down. The only way to detect this error would have been: clicking show info on my launchers, multiply missile flight time with missile speed and see if its over 120+ km. Don't tell me, that you did that all on all your ships... Now imagine you are the FC, you have to co-ordinate the fleet and in the middle of that system's start malfunctioning on your ship, targeting range as well, so I couldn't see hows to primary going. First I tried to load different missiles, shooting different targets, it didn't help. It took about 2 mins to realize what was wrong, that was way too much time to lose on a tourney. Basicly it was my fault, because the whole thing broke up my co-ordination, and I couldn't lead the fleet efficiently. I'm sorry to hear that. Such a devious bug that caused the subsystems to give CPU, power, slots, and CPU reduction bonuses normally but not actually give the bonuses. In my opinion you should've been given a fair chance to lose to a superior group with that Tengu fully functioning!
Rrama Ratamnim Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 69	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:01:00 - [27] - Quote Alekto Descendant wrote: 1. post on your main, you spineless coward 2. tell your worthless tengu pilot to turn his **** on while hes in station. everyone else figured out how to do it. 3. i have no three, just stop bitching. tia Oh STFU, you lost get over yourself your just mad because PL totally forgot that Nulli already tried ECM against the vargurs and it didn't work and then you magically thought your ECM team would be soooo different your morons for not learning from the past. As for the tengu, i would not doubt something like this happened, other teams had offlined mods normally only 1 though that was easy enough to online back, others had cap boosters switch sizes when they were moved, others had ammo disappear magically from there guns during moves... If Huns really did get every mod offlined thats screwed up, though i would like o hear from CCP if the GM was told about it and what was done to rectify it if true.
Rrama Ratamnim Phoenix Evolved Part Duo 69	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:03:00 - [28] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: My MSE was offline at the start as well. However with the 6-7 minutes waiting at the beacon then the 10-15 waiting in the arena. We got everything sorted. Seems like something you would do before the match starts, make sure everyone is getting bonus'. I personally think you are just whining but whatever, was a good match. Quote: The only way to detect this error would have been: clicking show info on my launchers, multiply missile flight time with missile speed and see if its over 120+ km. Don't tell me, that you did that all on all your ships... Well we were flying a turret setup so we did, had to make sure everyone knew there ranges well and how to handle being TD'd. Most people checked there **** before matches as far as i know, no one can see a subsystem just "offlineing" itself lol, wow thats a new one lol
Terios Corvalis HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded 17	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:41:00 - [29] - Quote You don't need a GM to confirm it, if you look at the final match closer (1:40), it's clearly visible that the heavy missilles fired from my tengu (red ship on the left) just disappearing after running like 50km. Anyways luck is also a factor on these tournaments, so we had very bad luck this time. If this bug would have come out earlier, it's very much possible we didn't make it this far, since the tengu was one of the two most important ships of our setup. I'm pretty sure CCP will fix this to the next tourney, and I hope it will never happen to anyone else.
Oberus MacKenzie Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline. 3	Posted - 2012.07.23 18:52:00 - [30] - Quote I've actually had this type of stuff happen to me on Singularity. After doing the "moveme" stuff or being held up by traffic control modules would go off-line or ship bonuses wouldn't act right. It was an interesting fight to watch anyway. The tengu would have helped a lot with the survival of your vargurs (which I love, by the way) but what I think you guys really needed was that web loki you dropped for a third vargur. That would have been huge. Anyway, congrats to both VoC and Hun. Both of you guys fielded great pilots. VoC ran those vindi setups like champs and the FCing on that Hun vs. PL fight was outstanding. ... and VoC, stop trolling, you're just making yourselves look bad. If one of your ships wasn't functioning properly for what is probably the single most important fight of the year you would be a little annoyed, too.
Possum's Awesome Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo 54	Posted - 2012.07.23 19:55:00 - [31] - Quote You still might've had a chance if the logi hadn't been trying to rep frigs while teh vargur was halfway thru shields and dropping fast v0v and yes, he might've been damped or out of range, etc.. but still. Possum's Awesome : Awesome Possum Unjustly accused and condemned for his crimes.
Comingin Hot Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.07.24 08:45:00 - [32] - Quote ah bad luck. Hun really surprised me positively. Loved, how you kicked PL. Big surpise. Darkside had also some bad luck, I felt. All the tournament was so much better than last year's farce. it helped a lot to ban the Hydra/Outbreak metagaming faggots. I also like the finale and tournament winner. It was good, that the winner was not again PL.
Hatsumi Kobayashi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 146	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:29:00 - [33] - Quote Rrama Ratamnim wrote: Alekto Descendant wrote: 1. post on your main, you spineless coward 2. tell your worthless tengu pilot to turn his **** on while hes in station. everyone else figured out how to do it. 3. i have no three, just stop bitching. tia Oh STFU, you lost get over yourself your just mad because PL totally forgot that Nulli already tried ECM against the vargurs and it didn't work and then you magically thought your ECM team would be soooo different your morons for not learning from the past. As for the tengu, i would not doubt something like this happened, other teams had offlined mods normally only 1 though that was easy enough to online back, others had cap boosters switch sizes when they were moved, others had ammo disappear magically from there guns during moves... If Huns really did get every mod offlined thats screwed up, though i would like o hear from CCP if the GM was told about it and what was done to rectify it if true. sorry about your post CAUTION SNIGGS
Sarray en Welle Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD 4	Posted - 2012.07.24 09:48:00 - [34] - Quote Stop bitching both of u, and congratulate each other.. I really enjoyed the tourney, it was my first to watch, and congrats both of u for making it to the finals. However, more than a few times a luck has intervened in this years matches.. Disconnections before the match, this tengu case, perhaps something for CCP to think about, beacuse i think it CAN be avoided in the future.. I remember one match, dont know the teams, where one team had 3 proteuses, which were pretty much most of their dps, and bum.. disconnected, so they end up with 2.. They start with 2/3 of dps - talk about a disadvantage.. And they won in the end, good riddance I enjoyed your vargur setup, that was fun to watch..

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