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HappyBunnyHammer
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Posted - 2010.07.26 18:21:00 -
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So I've read through some of the guides and didn't see anything about the mechanic for how often Cosmic sig spawn.
Do they show up once a day at downtime or refresh throughout the day?
I spent most of the day Sunday scanning in Heimatar and Metropolis and found a Ladar, a Mag, a few Grav sites and an unknown. Is that a bad day or are my expectations too high?
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Toanfoal
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.26 20:36:00 -
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I'm starting to think CCP broke something.
I seem to find stuff earlier in the day and then never again (hitting the same systems every hour or so, so I already know what all the stupid wormholes are called).
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2010.07.26 21:09:00 -
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I'm not sure but I think they respawn at DownTime somewhere within the same region.
If the systems had a lot of traffic, then that was a good day.
Look for systems that are way off the main travel path away from mission and market hubs.
There's a lot of valuable information contained in previous threads posted in this forum section about exploration. Check back through the last 10 pages or so and take some notes.
Goodluck to you and welcome to exploration.
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Karee Etmann
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Posted - 2010.07.27 06:08:00 -
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I find ded space complexes on:
http://eve.grismar.net/explorer/index.php
My question is do they always spawn in those systems? And do they spawn in systems not listed on there?
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2010.07.27 12:00:00 -
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Most of those are static DED Deadspace complexes which are public, will always be in same system and will have a beacon showing in the overview. I don't know if that list is accurate, I just use the starmap.
Deadspace
Probing
Exploration sites
Complexes
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.07.27 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Boltorano on 27/07/2010 14:17:27
For all the misinformed here:
Cosmic signatures DO NOT respawn at downtime, they respawn in another system within the EVE universe, which can be in a different constellation (and possibly region) than the system it was in before, but only after a "cooldown timer" that is specific to each type of signature, except that wormholes in "known space" may or may not follow this exact pattern.
Anyone who does serious amounts of exploration should know this as well as see this mechanic in action.
Also, that list of DED complexes is over 3 years old, anything above 2/10 no longer respawns in the same location every time (a change to curb farming), and respawns in a new location every time it is completed via the above spawn mechanic.
 Originally by: "HappyBunnyHammer"
I spent most of the day Sunday scanning in Heimatar and Metropolis and found a Ladar, a Mag, a few Grav sites and an unknown. Is that a bad day or are my expectations too high?
Because of the mechanic that I have described above, cosmic signatures tend to collect in the most remote systems that do not get scanned as often. Especially after a weekend, the concentration of signatures in these unscanned systems becomes very high until somebody (like myself) comes along and clears them out.
Find the low-traffic systems that nobody scans, and you can find wealth of signatures beyond your wildest dreams.
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Ankbar
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
Because of the mechanic that I have described above, cosmic signatures tend to collect in the most remote systems that do not get scanned as often. Especially after a weekend, the concentration of signatures in these unscanned systems becomes very high until somebody (like myself) comes along and clears them out.
Find the low-traffic systems that nobody scans, and you can find wealth of signatures beyond your wildest dreams.
How would you say hi-, low-, and null-sec affects this? I don't mean the mechanic, but the probability of finding such a gem. My initial thoughts would be that there are explorers not willing to go into low-sec space, and those who are. Those who are are also willing to go to hi-sec if it behooves them. So even relatively infrequently scanned systems in hi-sec have a worse chance of being such a gem because it would have more explorers willing to hit it.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.07.28 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ankbar
How would you say hi-, low-, and null-sec affects this? I don't mean the mechanic, but the probability of finding such a gem. My initial thoughts would be that there are explorers not willing to go into low-sec space, and those who are. Those who are are also willing to go to hi-sec if it behooves them. So even relatively infrequently scanned systems in hi-sec have a worse chance of being such a gem because it would have more explorers willing to hit it.
I am aware of quite a few highsec systems that either get almost nobody at all or almost none of the people there / passing through scan the place on a regular basis. It takes a bit of research, experience, and good old "actually being there" to find them, but they do exist.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.28 04:47:00 -
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Found a system off the beaten track 2 days ago with 4 4/10s and quite a few other signatures (no wormholes though, go figure).
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
Edited by: Boltorano on 27/07/2010 14:17:27
For all the misinformed here:
Cosmic signatures DO NOT respawn at downtime, they respawn in another system within the EVE universe, which can be in a different constellation (and possibly region) than the system it was in before, but only after a "cooldown timer" that is specific to each type of signature, except that wormholes in "known space" may or may not follow this exact pattern.
Do you have proof of this, such as a DEV Blog or a statistics survey?
Originally by: Boltorano
Anyone who does serious amounts of exploration should know this as well as see this mechanic in action.
Heh, I've done a lot of serious exploration and I doubt anyone would notice let alone even see it happen. By the way, just exactly how do you see this happen?
Originally by: Boltorano
Also, that list of DED complexes is over 3 years old, anything above 2/10 no longer respawns in the same location every time (a change to curb farming), and respawns in a new location every time it is completed via the above spawn mechanic.
I agree that list is inaccurate but the Static DED Deadspace Complexes don't despawn, doesn't matter if it's a 1/10 or a 10/10, just check the map. As for the hidden DED Deadspace sites, yeah, those are like any other Exploration site and when completed, it's gone and might be randomly respawned somewhere else.
Originally by: Boltorano
Originally by: "HappyBunnyHammer"
I spent most of the day Sunday scanning in Heimatar and Metropolis and found a Ladar, a Mag, a few Grav sites and an unknown. Is that a bad day or are my expectations too high?
Because of the mechanic that I have described above, cosmic signatures tend to collect in the most remote systems that do not get scanned as often. Especially after a weekend, the concentration of signatures in these unscanned systems becomes very high until somebody (like myself) comes along and clears them out.
Again, is there a DEV Blog or a statistics survey to show that COSMIC Signatures do indeed tend to spawn more in remote, unpopulated systems or is it just the fact that nobody is there hense they seem to gather/spawn more?
Originally by: Boltorano
Find the low-traffic systems that nobody scans, and you can find wealth of signatures beyond your wildest dreams.
I agree 100% because nobody has bothered to clear it out.
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HappyBunnyHammer
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:58:00 -
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Thanks for the answers, it sounds like noone is 100% certain how it works. I don't feel so bad now about not finding much.
My subsequent nights were a little better, I found a Radar that yeilded a 6 million ISK item and Unknown that escalated.
To add to the anecdotal evidence one of my friends told me was able to consistently farm the same 3/10 for awhile. He would complete it and it would respawn in another system in the same constellation.
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