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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.09 06:30:00 -
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A few people have contacted me and between them and people I've met elsewhere this round is now closed. Thanks for your interest!
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.08.09 06:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Janya Rykayn
A few people have contacted me and between them and people I've met elsewhere this round is now closed.
And none of them posted here. How convenient.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.09 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Janya Rykayn
A few people have contacted me and between them and people I've met elsewhere this round is now closed.
And none of them posted here. How convenient.
Hey, be nice, this is serious business with serious investors.
He is just keeping his promise to all his anonymous investors 
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.10 08:30:00 -
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Because all the people here who have 50 alts and corpmates post are on the up and up. To be faking with all that would just be too difficult, so the number of people who post in response is what determines someone's legitimacy.
You're funny, Estel.
It doesn't matter to me if they post or not-- as I said (at least as I think I said) I met and exceeded my target very quickly. I don't think I'll be doing a second round however. I'll just work it with my own money and not have to worry about sharing profits.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.08.10 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Janya Rykayn
I met and exceeded my target very quickly.
There's the problem, exceeded by how much? No one really knows how much was invested exactly by others.
With anonymous investors it's not just the question of whether or not they actually exist, but how many exist. Maybe you've convinced 20 people that there are 4 others each investing 2B. Everyone thinks you're sitting on 10B invested isk, but you're actually sitting on 40B. That can be prevented by having all investors post how much they invested exactly.
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:42:00 -
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I see what you mean. But even that wouldn't help unless the only source of funds was M&D forum readers.
As I said, I very much doubt I'll do this again because it's just not worth the small rake percentage. And everyone thinks "Oh no he is here to steal our 500M."
Why do they think that? Because there's almost no mechanism in the game or meta-game that discourages it. Even in the real world (insofar as Wall Street is the real world) ponzi schemes are all over the place and happen every day. I've seen them happen first hand and in one case I was almost screaming at people trying to warn them but they didn't listen.
At any rate I'll most likely just worry about my own investments in future and others can handle their own.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Janya Rykayn
As I said, I very much doubt I'll do this again because it's just not worth the small rake percentage. And everyone thinks "Oh no he is here to steal our 500M."
Why do they think that? Because there's almost no mechanism in the game or meta-game that discourages it.
Actually, there are plenty of meta-game mechanisms to discourage it. You just chose not to engage with them in any meaningful way.
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.10 12:22:00 -
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there are plenty of meta-game mechanisms to discourage it.
This might or might not be true were it not for character sales.
Ultimately, someone who runs a huge scam can burn his main, walk away with 20 or 40B or whatever, and effectively respec into whatever new sleeve he wants, no harm no foul, leaving the purchaser holding the bag of negative reputation. Which probably won't mean boo one way or another.
I do see your point that at least it's something but it's just not worth bothering with one way or another, for me. Once again, most of the mechanisms favor scammers and are overwhelmingly weighted against investors looking for something legitimate. For a legit fund manager the payoff is simply not worth it.
But scammers? They'll jump through whatever hoops are required because for them the payoff is tens or hundreds of times larger than just a simple rake.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Janya Rykayn
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there are plenty of meta-game mechanisms to discourage it.
This might or might not be true were it not for character sales.
Ultimately, someone who runs a huge scam can burn his main, walk away with 20 or 40B or whatever, and effectively respec into whatever new sleeve he wants, no harm no foul, leaving the purchaser holding the bag of negative reputation. Which probably won't mean boo one way or another.
I do see your point that at least it's something but it's just not worth bothering with one way or another, for me. Once again, most of the mechanisms favor scammers and are overwhelmingly weighted against investors looking for something legitimate. For a legit fund manager the payoff is simply not worth it.
But scammers? They'll jump through whatever hoops are required because for them the payoff is tens or hundreds of times larger than just a simple rake.
I meant things like public scrutiny and audits. These do a pretty good job of weeding out many potential scams just because they increase the workload involved for a scammer. Let's pretend (?) that this was a scam offering, for example. Potential investors have no way of knowing if you actually have any trading experience, or even the skills necessary to trade effectively. In order to get through an audit a scammer would have to actually trade and train and possibly create a viable business plan. This makes the return for time and effort spent much lower for a scammer than it would otherwise be, thus deterring many of them.
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Delta Sagittarii on 14/08/2010 20:56:54
Public Service Announcement: Janya Rykayn is a scammer.
He stole about 7,500,000,000 ISK from me.
Yes I'm pretty stupid but that's not the point...
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Jasper Grimpkin
Trader's Academy
manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jasper Grimpkin on 14/08/2010 21:01:36
Originally by: Delta Sagittarii
Edited by: Delta Sagittarii on 14/08/2010 20:56:54
Public Service Announcement: Janya Rykayn is a scammer.
He stole about 7,500,000,000 ISK from me.
Yes I'm pretty stupid but that's not the point...
I can help you recoup that loss, send me 1 billion isk and i'll send 10x back. Win! |
Lucyna
Minmatar
Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:17:00 -
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You live and you learn
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lucyna
You live and you learn
Exactly... Anyways... it's just stupid space money...
I just thought it was important to burn this into google cache for future generations...
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Janya Rykayn on 15/08/2010 03:09:54
Mea Culpa!
Just a general word to the wise.
1) Do not give a Rorqual away to someone you just met half an hour ago.
2) After not getting said Rorqual back, do not give vast sums of ISK on the basis of a five minute conversation to someone you've talked to for maybe an hour total, have never, ever run ops with and know nothing whatsoever about. Especially when your alt Farlimas is a character of exceedingly suspicious provenance and your behavior in corp exceedingly strange (Joining corp then right away claiming you are on vacation then coming in and out of corp chat saying nothing, saying strange things to corpies, supposedly asking for roles after a week in corp. Or was that one of your 73 alts who did that?)
Ever heard of something called due diligence? Comparatively small investments are one thing. But this? Wow. *Twilight Zone theme*
Drugs are bad, mmmkay? All in all, ಠ_ಠ
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jovialmadness on 15/08/2010 03:25:21
Well i gotta give this guy credit, he isnt putting up with you guys' ****. I almost want to give him isk just for that.
Edit: yea id have rated this a 100% scam chance. But the thread is precious! |
Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:27:00 -
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Jovialmadness: how you doing? Let's be friends. Here is where you give me a Rorqual. Then, next week after not talking for a week, 6 trillion please. Sound reasonable?
Me neither. :(
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Janya Rykayn
Jovialmadness: how you doing? Let's be friends. Here is where you give me a Rorqual. Then, next week after not talking for a week, 6 trillion please. Sound reasonable?
Me neither. :(
Naaaaaaa i said almost. |
Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:38:00 -
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I LOVE how I became the scammer somehow...
I just got a brilliant idea... let's believe what that guy says !
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:40:00 -
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I'm waiting for your apology.
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:43:00 -
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oh and just for the record...
Yes Farlimas is mine. I bought it here on the forum... I'm sure people would be able to find the post IF THEY'D CARE... I learned BY YOU BTW that Farlimas was a scammer before... I guess you people get together on week-ends and talk about how you're so cool because you stole space money from noobs... good job !
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Jion Tichy
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jion Tichy on 15/08/2010 04:04:05
Isn't Farlimas the guy who sits in Jita all day spewing lottery scams? Or am I thinking of somebody else? At any rate very funny, this thread started out  and has now become
edit: "let's believe what that guy says !" That's what they all say. Everything about this is fishy. Farlimas is a known scammer who was apparently sold by his main because he had become too hot.
How does a nooblet come up with that kind of isk anyway, as if I have to ask?
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:04:00 -
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I don't know about Farlimas... only what Janya told me... that he knew that guy named McDoubleCheezeNut or something and that he was a "scammer".
It's funny... after he stole my ISK he blocked me like a little girl not wanting to face was he had done and now that I have posted here, he keeps sending me mails with stories he invent in his mind to make him believe he's the good guy in all this... I guess he's having a hard time living with himself.
I am finding this very amusing indeed... let's keep it up !
And... I'm sorry you stole my money ?! What kind of request is that... That must be a very beautiful world in your head where you are the king and everybody loves you... it's a change from your normal life isn't it ?
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:14:00 -
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Edited by: Janya Rykayn on 15/08/2010 04:15:20
I had to block you because of your vulgar, enraged tirades. If you behave that way you can't expect to get anywhere.
Also, the threats aren't helping either, and frankly I think they show your level of maturity. Good luck with all that, and with finding another corp with your legion of scamming alts.
Or maybe you could just sell them off again and start fresh.
Quote:
I got the money from CCP themselves after I petitioned something. I might have got too much, I didn't ask...
Tell us another one.
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:20:00 -
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I am very inclined to believe what he just said. I think I'll do just that !
Oh btw, I just blocked YOU ! Have a taste of your own medicine !
Not like anybody care, but I am willing to post a screenshot of the login screen of my two EVE account. I don't think you would do that now would you ? HAHA
Karma is a *****, I guess you'll learn that the hard way as I had to learn about people like you.
Take care
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Janya Rykayn on 15/08/2010 04:33:58
I've got the fever and the only cure is more peevishness.
Once again, I've offered you the option to write an apology for your misbehavior. What you decide to do is up to you.
Something tells me that karma doesn't work quite the way you think it does. Quite the opposite in fact.
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:45:00 -
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In Soviet Russia, lies are true.
Here you're just another devil in holy water... I think people are smart enough to see that.
I am sending LOLCOW T-shirts to anybody who ask for it...
Sorry, please continue
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:55:00 -
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Intelligence? Oh, the irony. When you try to infiltrate known scamming alts into a corp you had better know what you're doing.
You have nobody to blame but yourself. Bought characters, piles of bought isk, and without the sense God gave a kumquat.
But not lacking in greed.
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 05:03:00 -
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http://i37.tinypic.com/15x4dxy.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/5dnsd4.jpg
That last post didn't make much sense, I guess we're near the end. I'm sure it must hard for you to see that you burned your 5 years character... I feel for you man.
Now your turn... let's see your login screen...
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.08.15 05:05:00 -
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You don't tell me what to do, child. Continue your futile flailing for as long as you wish to provide amusement. Ah, the pathos!
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Delta Sagittarii
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Posted - 2010.08.15 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Delta Sagittarii on 15/08/2010 05:09:49
Never saw that coming...
Here's the thread where I bought Farlimas for people who are still reading...
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1360382/page/1#13
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