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Rock Muffin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:23:00 -
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Im a bit annoyed of the people who scans for ships in deadspace, jump in the middle of my missions and salvage my wrecks without being flagged.
Ofc i can just salvage while i kill NPC's but its still very annoying that someone can steal my wrecks and there aint a damn thing i can do about it unless i want Concord to blow up my ship.
What are the reason that salvage-pirates dont get flagged as hostile when they salvage the stuff i killed? Ive been looking for an answer to that but cant seem to find it.
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Eastern Promise
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:25:00 -
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Return from whence you came? To wit, go back to WoW.
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Captain Yifan
Shadows Of The Requiem Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/08/2010 12:33:57 Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/08/2010 12:31:53 Dear Paul Clavet:
Your Carebear alt/troll/faketear maker still needs work.
fly safe
To the OP:
EvE does not work exactly like WoW. The salvage does not belong to anybody and in order to make profit from it you need to beat someone to it. Either by using a Dominix/Rattlesnake/Marauder and salvage while you mission, or using a salvage alt, or avoid major mission hubs, or let your friend salvage it for you, or just skip the salvage, etc etc etc.
To summarise, EvE is a competitive PvP game.
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Rock Muffin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:38:00 -
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I know, but it dont change the fact that its annoying.
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Retcha Whellae
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:41:00 -
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Be a man! Stop complaining and do something about it... Whether it's beating them to the wrecks or just popping the wrecks...
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Rock Muffin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:49:00 -
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Ehh?
All i did was to say that i was annoyed at this and asked if there had been a reason/debate somewhere about this issue.
There is no need to tell me to stop complaining or to go play some other mmo, guess its too hard for most people to answer a simple question or leave a comment that dont look like it is written by ignorants.
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lord xavier
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Retcha Whellae Be a man! Stop complaining and do something about it... Whether it's beating them to the wrecks or just popping the wrecks...
Nothing ****es off a ninja salvager more then popping wrecks while they try to salvage. Biomass is free (of) Eve4life! |
Captain Yifan
Shadows Of The Requiem Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/08/2010 13:04:05
Originally by: Rock Muffin Ehh?
All i did was to say that i was annoyed at this and asked if there had been a reason/debate somewhere about this issue.
There is no need to tell me to stop complaining or to go play some other mmo, guess its too hard for most people to answer a simple question or leave a comment that dont look like it is written by ignorants.
Here it is:
Per CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal "Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."
Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.
Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.
Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.
Per CCP Incognito : Originally by: CCP Incognito Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.
(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.)
So yes, it is a good idea to stop complaining. On top of that, complaining in the Crime and Punishment forum will generally end up you being flamed or trolled.
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Rock Muffin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:14:00 -
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Thank you Mr. Yifan.
That was exactly the kind of response i was hoping to get.
Have a nice day and fly safe.
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Bal'Ayle
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:20:00 -
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simply put wreckage is wreckage, if a car crashes on the road and there is a wingmirror left in the bushes its free for all, if you break open a piggy bank and take out the cash, the broken pig isnt what you would call an asset.
as you said yourself they are wrecks, they don't belong to you, the stuff that's inside them is technically junk if it was something more then that it would be a flaggable offence to steal them but its not, its just scrap after you salvage 100's of ships you might have enough to make a rig or two
its something LOTS of eve players clash on, the easiest deterent is to shoot the wrecks
if you spend ages flying to them to find them popped it makes you lose interest quickly
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Kavu
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:33:00 -
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dear rock muffin, thank you for thread 300 on the topic, the links that were provided to you were most likely take from one of the hundreds of other threads, eve has been around a long time, a forum search or two can aswer alot of questions Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Yifan Dear Paul Clavet:
Your Carebear alt/troll/faketear maker still needs work.
fly safe
This absolutely makes my day. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:51:00 -
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Meh, I was hoping for more righteous indignation.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rock Muffin Im a bit annoyed of the people who scans for ships in deadspace, jump in the middle of my missions and salvage my wrecks without being flagged.
Ofc i can just salvage while i kill NPC's but its still very annoying that someone can steal my wrecks and there aint a damn thing i can do about it unless i want Concord to blow up my ship.
What are the reason that salvage-pirates dont get flagged as hostile when they salvage the stuff i killed? Ive been looking for an answer to that but cant seem to find it.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:51:00 -
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0/10
The sentiment wasn't original or even interesting, also the name is boring.
Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
You Dobber
The Unforgiven Capsuleers
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:10:00 -
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i personally like salvager's even though i'm a missioner and i'm friendly with a few. At the end of the day its a profession for some people so grow up and stop getting annoyed over a internet spaceship game -------
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rock Muffin All i did was to say that i was annoyed at this
No, you went further by referring to wrecks as YOUR wrecks:
Originally by: Rock Muffin its still very annoying that someone can steal my wrecks and there aint a damn thing i can do
Wrecks aren't your wrecks by game rule.
It's interesting however human hunting behaviour seems to assume "The remains of what I hunted down is mine".
And as a matter of fact you can strive to salvage first. Cheetahs can get a fast bite of game here and there despite hyenas present.
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Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:24:00 -
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does anyone else think 13 year old girls should get abortion cards that mean they don't have to wait to see a clinic ?
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Poo Ka'hontas
Red Eye Industrial
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Razzor Death does anyone else think 13 year old girls should get abortion cards that mean they don't have to wait to see a clinic ?
I think 13yo girls should be playing, doing homework and spend time with their families.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No. CCP Shadow should behave the same way forums do during downtime. Up, but maybe a little slow.
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Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:37:00 -
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what about barbies home abortion studio ?
(this thread is now about outdated trolls)
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Sol Mahon
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:22:00 -
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What is wrong with you people?
Someone had a question, it was answered, end of. Seriously all you people calling troll and rating this really need to learn the definition of troll, you all just look like idiots how do you not see that? |
Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sol Mahon What is wrong with you people?
Someone had a question, it was answered, end of. Seriously all you people calling troll and rating this really need to learn the definition of troll, you all just look like idiots how do you not see that?
2/10 troll needed more religious debate.
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Sol Mahon
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Razzor Death
Originally by: Sol Mahon What is wrong with you people?
Someone had a question, it was answered, end of. Seriously all you people calling troll and rating this really need to learn the definition of troll, you all just look like idiots how do you not see that?
2/10 troll needed more religious debate.
Thank you for proving my point so elequently |
Sonkut
Minmatar The Motley Few
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Posted - 2010.08.04 12:37:00 -
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Two options,
Ninja salvager enters site: target wrecks worth salvaging - Fire.
Second option: convo salvager and offer him the opertunity to salvage / loot all your missions if he pays you % of the value.
missing option: stop crying and get on with life.
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Moreto
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: lord xavier Nothing ****es off a ninja salvager more then popping wrecks while they try to salvage.
I still consider this a win for me, it takes them longer to make the wrecks then it takes me to scan them down.
Originally by: Sonkut Second option: convo salvager and offer him the opertunity to salvage / loot all your missions if he pays you % of the value.
I take this offer up if they give it to me, I don't mind sharing like that, plus they might let me tag along on future missions.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.05 07:59:00 -
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Out of the ruins Out from the wreckage Can't make the same mistake this time We are the children the last generation We are the ones they left behind And I wonder when we are ever gonna change Living under the fear till nothing else remains
We don't need another hero We don't need to know the way home All we want is life beyond the thunderdome
Looking for something we can rely on There's got to be something better out there Love and compassion, their day is coming All else are castles built in the air And I wonder when we are ever gonna change Living under the fear till nothing else remains All the children say
We don't need another hero We don't need to know the way home All we want is life beyond the thunderdome
So, what do we do with our lives We leave only a mark Will our story shine like a light Or end in the dark Give it all or nothing
Replying to threads without reading them since 2008 |
kiki mo
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rock Muffin I know, but it dont change the fact that its annoying.
ummm...this forum is 'Crime and Punishment' not 'Annoyed and Whining'
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Gumlin31
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:40:00 -
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I'd like to note for the record that as a former ninja salvager, I found it hilarious when people shot the wrecks and thought it had any affect on my operations. (All it really did is reduce my workload before going to the next level 4 guy)
I also found it funnier that the one or two guys who did so used projectile weapons to do it thus wasting ammo to no avail.
GG guys!
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Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rock Muffin
What are the reason that salvage-pirates dont get flagged as hostile when they salvage the stuff i killed? Ive been looking for an answer to that but cant seem to find it.
Like it would make a difference. You are not going to shoot them anyway. --- Witness epic fleet battles in Dominion
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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:47:00 -
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-Rapidly fast hand signals and such-
Secret Technique of the Village Hidden in Space ;
SpaceTrolling Jutsu!
The salvage isn't yours. It is , for all intents and purposes, mines.
Carry on.
------------------------------------------------ One Cannot Fully Appreciate Peace Until They Have Experienced True Pain. -------------------------------------------------
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