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Tristan Dorn	Posted - 2010.08.02 15:54:00 - [1] Quote: As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service: #17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Thread locked. I was unaware of this rule, but because of this rule and on behalf of all high sec players, I am using this post as my formal petition that all 0.0 players be banned from eve or forced to end their blob warfare and complaining on these forums due to the strain that it puts on the servers (I will be filing this petition in game as well). I am tired of seeing CCP get bashed for the past few days. I have had problems in Motsu trying to run my missions when I hear in local that some idiots are trying to have 500 people fight each other. Who cares? I lost my navy raven due to them fighting over some stupid "space" and yes, I am mad. I pay my monthy bills too CCP and why should my experience be messed up because the minority of eve players can't make better tactics? CCP I think you are doing a great job, don't listen to the haters. I can't wait to walk in a station but make sure you add in something where I can report scammers because it will be far worse when they can spam inside the station. Cheers.
Elektrea Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.08.02 15:58:00 - [2] Edited by: Elektrea on 02/08/2010 16:04:53 Wow your a **ing ****, CCP is doing everything in their power to fix this game. ----------
Sabeth Lorn	Posted - 2010.08.02 16:10:00 - [3] Can I have your stuffz?
Nova Tiempo	Posted - 2010.08.02 16:11:00 - [4] Hand out sarcasm detectors to all They're reeeeeeeally usefull.
RetroVertigo North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.08.02 16:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Tristan Dorn I lost my navy raven due to them fighting over some stupid "space" and yes, I am mad. I for one would like to see more pubbies crying over their broken navy ravens myself. Also thanks for letting everyone know you do missions in motsu in a navy raven, then post tears when you die in it. I'm sure that will work out for your benefit.
Caeltrayian Reliables Inc	Posted - 2010.08.02 16:16:00 - [6] Originally by: RetroVertigo Originally by: Tristan Dorn I lost my navy raven due to them fighting over some stupid "space" and yes, I am mad. I for one would like to see more pubbies crying over their broken navy ravens myself. Also thanks for letting everyone know you do missions in motsu in a navy raven, then post tears when you die in it. I'm sure that will work out for your benefit. ^ this oh and Motsu, Navy Raven and Lag
Nuadi	Posted - 2010.08.02 16:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Tristan Dorn Quote: As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service: #17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Thread locked. I was unaware of this rule... Please read this.
Darth McDarth	Posted - 2010.08.02 17:29:00 - [8] So tl;dr you lost a navy raven and come to the forums to cry about it. Fascinating.
5 dorra	Posted - 2010.08.02 18:13:00 - [9] Edited by: 5 dorra on 02/08/2010 18:13:50 CNR loss, Motsu, Lag, 0.0 minority. Yep, it's a troll all right. //EDIT - the responses made me smile, troll successfull. i guess
Calistai Huranu Carebears with Guns	Posted - 2010.08.02 18:19:00 - [10] People still fly CNR's?
Cifese	Posted - 2010.08.02 19:37:00 - [11] Seriously awesome: Originally by: TOS #16 You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world. Originally by: TOS #17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Originally by: TOS #23 You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website. My interpretation of this: alliances are not allowed to have large fleet fights that lag out the servers alliances cannot "flood" a system with alts, afk accounts, and actual players to prevent an opponent from jumping into system goons cannot flood local with ASCI gender-specific shapes (sorry guys) Geez, guess I should unsub. anyone want my Reaper?
Celestine Santora	Posted - 2010.08.02 20:04:00 - [12] Originally by: Elektrea Edited by: Elektrea on 02/08/2010 16:04:53 CCP is doing everything in their power to fix this game. Trolling removed. Zymurgist @Zymurgist - You missed some
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.08.02 20:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Tristan Dorn ...I lost my navy raven due to them fighting over some stupid "space" and yes, I am mad. You should come join us down in losec. There's lots of pretty empty systems and the locals won't bother you when you're missioning in your pimpmobile. But please get a Golem before you do so, because they're much better for running missions. On top of this, because losec is so empty, many of the locals have decorated their ships with lovely red lighting and little animated skulls. It's lovely down here. Originally by: Tristan Dorn I pay my monthy bills too CCP and why should my experience be messed up because the minority of eve players can't make better tactics? Why Tristan dearest, I also pay my monthly bills, why should my game experience be messed up because you don't have the courage to come and join us in losec? Originally by: Tristan Dorn CCP I think you are doing a great job, don't listen to the haters. I can't wait to walk in a station but make sure you add in something where I can report scammers because it will be far worse when they can spam inside the station. I don't know if you've noticed but in game scamming is tolerated except those who are a bit too "challenged" to recognise a scam in the face of their greed. Originally by: Tristan Dorn Cheers. Bye now, be careful of the nawty piwats, hear?
Icantseeanythinginthis	Posted - 2010.08.02 21:43:00 - [14] So what is the difference in staging a 500 man battle between SC & NC in say Motsu and crashing that node.. And in EC, and crashing that node.. Does it matter where?
Tristan Dorn	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:36:00 - [15] I recieved a response to my petition. You're day is coming all of you loud mouthed players who are trying to ruin the game. Quote: Hi, Thank you for your feedback. We have taken note of your complaint and will send it to the appropriate people. I assure you that we are trying our best to find a middle-ground so that both the 0.0 players and the high-sec players can enjoy themselves on the Tranquility server. We are also aware of some vocal forum posters who think they can sway us by being "loud", we do value the feedback of all of our customers but in the end we take everything into consideration and make the choice we feel is best for the community as a whole and the future of the game. Your feedback is just as valuable as that of the 0.0 players, and thanks again for letting us know your thoughts. Good luck in your future endeavors in the Eve universe. Best regards, GM Zerat EVE Online Customer Support
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Tristan Dorn I recieved a response to my petition. You're day is coming all of you loud mouthed players who are trying to ruin the game. Quote: Hi, Thank you for your feedback. We have taken note of your complaint and will send it to the appropriate people. I assure you that we are trying our best to find a middle-ground so that both the 0.0 players and the high-sec players can enjoy themselves on the Tranquility server. We are also aware of some vocal forum posters who think they can sway us by being "loud", we do value the feedback of all of our customers but in the end we take everything into consideration and make the choice we feel is best for the community as a whole and the future of the game. Your feedback is just as valuable as that of the 0.0 players, and thanks again for letting us know your thoughts. Good luck in your future endeavors in the Eve universe. Best regards, GM Zerat EVE Online Customer Support Thanks for that post, Tristan. You do know it is against the forum rules to post GM communication here, don't you? On the other hand, now that you've done it, we now have some damning evidence that CCP views the player anger on the forums as nothing more than a nuisance, and that they do not intend to change anything. I wonder how CCP Zinfandel or CCP "lol customers" Zulu are going to attempt to portray this one, because it looks as if they're just humouring us. I don't see a good outcome to this at all.
Aurelius Valentius Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:49:00 - [17] Originally by: Tristan Dorn Quote: As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service: #17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Thread locked. This is a plot to de-populate EVE. 1. Obama is elected. 2. Freemasons, there are always Freemasons involved. 3. CCP wants wants people to move to 0.0 space. 4. Socialism becomes standard (Obama and Freemasons). 5. CCP becomes socialist and tracks players info with MySpaceBook and EVE Gate. 6. Hulkageddon is launched to stir up the emo-rage and under-mine (hehe hoho haha...that was punny, ahem...) the free market system. 7. More Socialism as CCP used PI to make players enslaved to the click-fest that is Planet-ville. 8. WalMart partners with EVE to sell PI items to public at low-low prices and destroys EVE's player based contol of market. 9. Freemasons... need I say more. 10. Obama grins on national TV as a covert sign that things are going according to the new EVE order. 11. CCP plans on a "secret war" Codenamed: DUST, in which non-eve players will be contracted as private miliarty companies to destroy industrial production in the free market. 12. Players will finally become slaves to the EVE-lites of CCP and in 2012 the Anti-Christ will come and sap EVE-ile Devs and "rapture" up all the good pilots and give them milk and cookies. FLOPS IN DAISY PATCH AND SIGHS
alittlebirdy	Posted - 2010.08.04 17:15:00 - [18] All I saw that GM say is, 0.0 guys, get your war dec on and fight in HS! Missions hubs would be best, guess the carebears don't like lag when they see it. Or what about POS take downs I mean, CCP took caps out of HS, so you NEED a huge bs fleet to take em down... yep think thats a good plan, clean out offlines poses with huge BS fleets, moar carebear tears! //waits to be rule 17ed and told all you can do in eve is mission and mine... Haha that GM is also saying, EvE's ads are full of shít... Man ccp get it togeather.
Hari Markkus Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2010.08.04 17:21:00 - [19] How many people posting in this thread can reply yes to the question, are you a lawyer? Hmm, thought so. Stick to flying internet spaceships would be this lawyer's advice.
CyberGh0st Minmatar Ara Veritas	Posted - 2010.08.07 22:00:00 - [20] Quote: As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service: #17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Thread locked. CCP Devs and management are losing it, do you, CCP, really believe this is the way you should handle things? http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE
Sadayiel Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.08.07 22:25:00 - [21] OP is so right also numbers support his theory. Soo alliance A fights alliance B each one bring 500 ppl so it's a 1000 ppl fight Now in motsu in the mean time there is let's say just 100 ppl carebearing (the number may be higher just in motsu hub just don't even consider all the other profitable hubs for lvl 4) Now we add the let's say 15 Npc per wave on missions wich just adds a nice 1500 ships, that the server needs to track. Soo in fact carebears are gennerating more server data/congestion or even lag than 0.0 blobs... You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here.
Doddy The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.07 22:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Tristan Dorn Quote: As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service: #17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Thread locked. I was unaware of this rule, but because of this rule and on behalf of all 0.0 players, I am using this post as my formal petition that all hi sec missioners be banned from eve or forced stop cramming into motsu and complaining on these forums due to the strain that it puts on the servers (I will be filing this petition in game as well). I am tired of seeing CCP get bashed for the past few days. I have had problems in 0.0 trying to run my missions when I hear in local that some idiots are trying to have 500 missions simultaneously in Motsu. Who cares? I lost my pvp ship due to them fighting some stupid npcs and yes, I am mad even though they are on an entirely different node and i am getting lagged by other pvpers. I pay my monthy bills too CCP and why should my experience be messed up because the minority of eve players can't do missions anywhere but motsu? CCP I think you are doing a great job, don't listen to the haters. I can't wait to walk in a station but make sure you add in something where I can report scammers because it will be far worse when they can spam inside the station. Cheers. Fixed
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.08.08 00:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Hari Markkus How many people posting in this thread can reply yes to the question, are you a lawyer? Hmm, thought so. Stick to flying internet spaceships would be this lawyer's advice. I AM a lawyer, a Doctor, a Programmer, a Woman, a Gamer and a Nerd now go suck on the tailpipe of your car cause I blew your mind. ------------------------------------------------------- 5 minute forum time delay is a crime against humanity.

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