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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
380
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:17:00 -
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Here's the link. Wow. Not a pretty picture for the MMORPG industry....this is big.
From the article: "It is believed Holmes was due to be kicked out of his flat and may have recently broken up with a girlfriend, while one friend said his addiction to video games meant he had lost touch with reality."
"It is not known exactly when Holmes stopped going to classes but it is thought he was nearing the end of the 30-day grace period. A former classmate from the University of Colorado suggested another cause for the killings, saying Holmes had lost touch with reality after becoming 'obsessed' with video games.
The classmate told the Daily Mail: 'James was obsessed with computer games and was always playing role-playing games.
'I canGÇÖt remember which one but it was something like World of Warcraft, one of those where you compete against people on the internet.
'He did not have much of a life apart from that and doing his work. James seemed like he wanted to be in the game and be one of the characters.
'It seemed that being online was more important to him than real life. He must have lost his sense of reality, how else can you shoot dozens of people you donGÇÖt know?'"
Witness the destruction and downfall of your typical 24 year old nerdish introvert. Addicted to a MMORPG - completely loses touch with reality, wants to be a character in the game, his girlfriend dumps him, he trashes his grades and drops out of grad school. No job or friends. Eviction notice was in the mail.
Life spiraling out of control, he goes and massacres dozens of people as if he was a character in a video game.
Its well known that companies such as CCP intentionally introduce countless positive feedback elements to entrap gamers - force them to continue consuming their highly addictive product....much as nicotine entraps smokers. Companies such as CCP in effect, are profiting from their socially irresponsible product.
For every James Holmes, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of other victims who manage destroy their lives in many smaller, but less shocking ways.
While individuals are capable of making their own choices, that argument no longer flies in civilized society. 'Individual responsibility' is the fig leaf that all purveyors of addictive products hide behind. A large share of blame should fall on the corporate entities that profit from the carnage.
The discussion should start now. First, what can CCP do? What steps should CCP take to sell their product in more socially responsible way? How can CCP market EVE in a way that earns them a modest profit - while still protecting those (like James Holmes) most vulnerable to abuse? Because if they don't get ahead of this emerging threat, the federal government will.
What can the government do? The MMORPG industry is literally the Wild West, federal regulations almost non-existent. Yet the destructive/addictive properties of the internet and gaming are becoming quite evident. Reasonable regulations should be drafted to restrain the irresponsible elements of this industry. Oversight and firm enforcement "with teeth" - to prevent bad actors within the industry from doing severe damage to the fabric of our nation. The threat of stiff financial penalties have a way of bringing errant corporate entities around. |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
80
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:18:00 -
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Yawn, was wondering how long this would take, 0/10 move on. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1696
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:19:00 -
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On the other hand... if everyone in the theater was at home playing Eve 12 of them wouldn't be dead  |

DrSmegma
Smegma United Asgard Supplies and Logistics
52
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:19:00 -
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*skims text*
They suspect it's World of Warcraft. All is well. I don't really want to troll you. If I trolled you anyway, I'll probably edit it out as soon as the rage fades. |

DrSmegma
Smegma United Asgard Supplies and Logistics
52
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:20:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:On the other hand... if everyone in the theater was at home playing Eve 12 of them wouldn't be dead 
I dunno man. Eve players are pretty close to being dead. Sitting and breathing dead, but dead nontheless. I don't really want to troll you. If I trolled you anyway, I'll probably edit it out as soon as the rage fades. |

Alicia Fermi
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:21:00 -
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The Daily Mail in a video game nasty shocker, who could have seen that coming? |

Another Forum Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:22:00 -
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Out of all the things you could do with your free time..
FGûÇckin' dopey kid. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
416
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:23:00 -
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The media has blamed video games for every single ******* act of violent rampages since kids were playing Dr. Mario. Nobody's even paying attention to this **** anymore. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Xion Martinus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:23:00 -
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IMO - Gaming is a choice, nothing more... RL violence is also a choice. No one to blame but himself. Epeen:-á Behavior quite commonly found on online discussion boards or similar, where some loser tries to establish his superiority - and thus the merit of his or her opinion - by stating how skilled and awesome he or she is, rather than forming a sound argument.Generally also used to condescendingly refer to someones ego. |

george harries
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:29:00 -
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The Daily Mail.......the scummiest Right Wing Bullshit paper the UK produces.....thepaper who over the years would make some of the mysogynistic, racist, sexist homophobes that occasionally inhabit forums seem almost reasonable.
Over the years they have blamed horror films, games, music etc on various mass murders or horrendous situations.
Couple of pointers if society has ills the you will get terrible events, people who are mentally ill do not 'catch it' from gaiming, films etc.
I was going to make some decent pointers but this trash makes me want to vomit and you should be ashamed for linking it here.
As always it's the conservatives looking to point the blame anywhere but at the very society that they have created.
flame on 
rant over |

Mystic Lore Arcanium
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:31:00 -
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It was a Gank... plain and simple.... which therefore must mean that it was the miners... err.. Movie watchers fault for not paying more attention to their surroundings. |

DrSmegma
Smegma United Asgard Supplies and Logistics
52
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:33:00 -
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Mystic Lore Arcanium wrote:It was a Gank... plain and simple.... which therefore must mean that it was the miners... err.. Movie watchers fault for not paying more attention to their surroundings.
Yup. America is low sec anyway.  I don't really want to troll you. If I trolled you anyway, I'll probably edit it out as soon as the rage fades. |

gulftobay
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:34:00 -
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You have absolutely no reason to title this thread "Batman" mass-murderer.....hopelessly addicted to EVE?, and it smacks of a shameless attempt at attention-getting.
If you're going to troll for your 15 minutes of forum fame at least switch the title from EVE to MMO's.
Low self-esteem?-á Bored?-á-áLonely?-á |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8702
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:35:00 -
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Pseudo-psych guessing about a topic they are not familiar with and nothing that links it with EVE.
Sensationalism, hoy! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1633
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:35:00 -
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gulftobay wrote:You have absolutely no reason to title this thread "Batman" mass-murderer.....hopelessly addicted to EVE?, and it smacks of a shameless attempt at attention-getting.
If you're going to troll for your 15 minutes of forum fame at least switch the title from EVE to MMO's.
Agreed. Hope the mods lock this thread. |

Pipa Porto
470
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:36:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:The media has blamed video games for every single ******* act of violent rampages since kids were playing Dr. Mario. Nobody's even paying attention to this **** anymore.
Be fair, they seem to split the blame equally between Guns and Video Games.
To quote Ron Butterfield "It wasn't anybody's fault. It was an act of madmen."
This was an act of a madman. You think his access to inanimate objects would change that? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
83
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:36:00 -
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Already reported it Ginseng, now we hope the ISD's are awake (Wow never thought i'd hope for that) |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
681
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:37:00 -
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Seemed more crazy about the joker. so DC Universe. Ban super villains. |

DrSmegma
Smegma United Asgard Supplies and Logistics
52
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:38:00 -
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- meh whatever I don't really want to troll you. If I trolled you anyway, I'll probably edit it out as soon as the rage fades. |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:39:00 -
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Fail. And if he was playing games (who doesn't?), he was probably into DCUO and CoH, basically f2p games. So you should direct your questions and concerns to the f2p game developers, and ask them how they can prevent this from happening again, like shutting down their crud f2p games forever  |

Sol Badguy Durandal
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
3
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:40:00 -
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I remember when they tried to blame Columbine on the fact that the kids played Doom all the time. |

Adalynne Rohks
Tax Evasion Anonymous
67
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:43:00 -
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Wow. I thought your other thread was bad, but this is terrible on so many different levels. I hope I can find an ignore feature, just for you. If not, I'll have to settle for simply not wasting more keystrokes responding to your worthless "content" |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1384
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:43:00 -
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I do love that the media gives these incidents 24-hour international coverage for a week or more and then scratch their heads wondering why these things keep happening a rogue goon |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
84
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:46:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:I do love that the media gives these incidents 24-hour international coverage for a week or more and then scratch their heads wondering why these things keep happening
To be honest i've been incredibly annoyed by the whole ordeal, i don't know why it keeps recurring on the British news over here in the UK, not like it's exactly relevent, then again i throw a fit every time we get US election coverage here. |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1009
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:46:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Mystic Lore Arcanium wrote:It was a Gank... plain and simple.... which therefore must mean that it was the miners... err.. Movie watchers fault for not paying more attention to their surroundings. Yup. America is low sec anyway. 
no it's high sec, concord swarmed him in seconds http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
209
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:46:00 -
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oh look, another "people got shot, lets blame video games" article/thread/yawnfest. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |

Jess Maine
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:49:00 -
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Guns don't kill people guys! Games do! :O |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1538
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:49:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Here's the link.Wow. Not a pretty picture for the MMORPG industry....this is big. From the article:"It is believed Holmes was due to be kicked out of his flat and may have recently broken up with a girlfriend, while one friend said his addiction to video games meant he had lost touch with reality."
"It is not known exactly when Holmes stopped going to classes but it is thought he was nearing the end of the 30-day grace period. A former classmate from the University of Colorado suggested another cause for the killings, saying Holmes had lost touch with reality after becoming 'obsessed' with video games.
The classmate told the Daily Mail: 'James was obsessed with computer games and was always playing role-playing games.
'I canGÇÖt remember which one but it was something like World of Warcraft, one of those where you compete against people on the internet.
'He did not have much of a life apart from that and doing his work. James seemed like he wanted to be in the game and be one of the characters.
'It seemed that being online was more important to him than real life. He must have lost his sense of reality, how else can you shoot dozens of people you donGÇÖt know?'"
Witness the destruction and downfall of your typical 24 year old nerdish introvert. Addicted to a MMORPG - completely loses touch with reality, wants to be a character in the game, his girlfriend dumps him, he trashes his grades and drops out of grad school. No job or friends. Eviction notice was in the mail. Life spiraling out of control, he goes and massacres dozens of people as if he was a character in a video game. Its well known that companies such as CCP intentionally introduce countless positive feedback elements to entrap gamers - force them to continue consuming their highly addictive product....much as nicotine entraps smokers. Companies such as CCP in effect, are profiting from their socially irresponsible product. For every James Holmes, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of other victims who manage destroy their lives in many smaller, but less shocking ways. While individuals are capable of making their own choices, that argument no longer flies in civilized society. 'Individual responsibility' is the fig leaf that all purveyors of addictive products hide behind. A large share of blame should fall on the corporate entities that profit from the carnage. The discussion should start now.First, what can CCP do? What steps should CCP take to sell their product in more socially responsible way? How can CCP market EVE in a way that earns them a modest profit - while still protecting those (like James Holmes) most vulnerable to abuse? Because if they don't get ahead of this emerging threat, the federal government will. What can the government do? The MMORPG industry is literally the Wild West, federal regulations almost non-existent. Yet the destructive/addictive properties of the internet and gaming are becoming quite evident. Reasonable regulations should be drafted to restrain the irresponsible elements of this industry. Oversight and firm enforcement "with teeth" - to prevent bad actors within the industry from doing severe damage to the fabric of our nation. The threat of stiff financial penalties have a way of bringing errant corporate entities around. The irony of posting a thread about games turning people into psychopaths, using a character that you own because you play that game, is not lost on us.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Kisumii
Bio-Tech Research Luna Sanguinem
92
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:51:00 -
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I played my little pony the other day and loved it so much that today I painted my horse rainbow and jumped him off a cliff. Damn these video games are ruining my life |

Mia Trask
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:51:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:CCP intentionally introduce countless positive feedback elements
err do they!!!! I'v had nothing but a big "**** you do it yourself" from day one
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