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Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:01:00 - [1] Hello, I just got a mission in high-sec, which has a ship restriction: This site is restricted to certain ship types; you may use your Myrmidon to access it, or one of the following types of ship: òAssault Ship òBattlecruiser òBattleship òBlack Ops òCombat Recon Ship òCommand Ship òCovert Ops òCruiser òDestroyer òElectronic Attack Ship òElite Battleship òExhumer òForce Recon Ship òFrigate òHeavy Assault Ship òHeavy Interdictor òIndustrial òIndustrial Command Ship òInterceptor òInterdictor òLogistics òMarauder òMining Barge òRookie ship òShuttle òStealth Bomber òStrategic Cruiser òTransport Ship The question is not if my ship, a battlecruiser, is allowed to go in, but I am more curious about what ship I would need not to get access to the mission. And what is an Elite Battleship? --
Arthalion Thoidon Caldari Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:10:00 - [2] I'm not 100% sure, but I believe most missions these days have some sort of ship restriction. For most mission you're restricted to simply using a ship, i.e. no restriction at all. For some missions there really are restriction. Worlds collide comes to mind, if I remember correctly you can, for instance, only bring T1/T2 frigates (and maybe dessies) to do the lvl1 version of worlds collide. It looks like your mission has the first sort of restriction: be in a ship. Only thing I can see missing from that list is a pod and that's not much use for shooting stuff anyway. Oh, elite battleship simply means T2 battleship (marauder & black ops). Hope that helps.
Tobias Xiaosen Total Xenophobia	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:12:00 - [3] Capitals basically. ~ CURRENT INTERNETS = + 636399
Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:13:00 - [4] It tells you that you cannot take a cap ship into the deadspace pocket. Carriers, freighters (though... why? :p ) Dreads etc. Also, elite BS are not black ops and marauders. They are listed separately. They might be an old database reference to the original concepts for tech 2 variants of ships that have not been removed from that list as there were also original concepts for 'elite cruisers'. Other names that never made it were gunships for frigates and such.
Arthalion Thoidon Caldari Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Darius Shakor It tells you that you cannot take a cap ship into the deadspace pocket. Carriers, freighters (though... why? :p ) Dreads etc. Also, elite BS are not black ops and marauders. They are listed separately. They might be an old database reference to the original concepts for tech 2 variants of ships that have not been removed from that list as there were also original concepts for 'elite cruisers'. Other names that never made it were gunships for frigates and such. Oops, completely forgot about capitals. If I'm correct they can't be used in any sort of deadspace pocket. And that's the eve database for you, shows a lot of ancient stuff that never made got in the game. (Waiting for today's DED connections skill thread, no it's not for sale anywhere and never existed.)
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:37:00 - [6] It would almost be easier if they listed the ships you aren't permitted to use.
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.04 09:49:00 - [7] Only to get this right. When in high-sec, then the only ships I am not allowed to take into this mission is a pod, a freighter and the jump freighter, yes?! I am asking, because I sat there and took a long look at the list and figured that I have found a new, odd thing in EVE. On the side, I have not too long ago found another curiosity. It is the description of the skill "Production Efficiency", where it tells you that it improves the material requirement on BPs by 4% per level. Once you do the math will you see that it is actually 5% per level. And when you report it as a buggy description do you get told that it is a 4% multiplied by 1.25. Not that 1.25 * 4% does not equal 5%, it is just that they like to call it 4%, omitting the stealthy 1.25, even when a 5% would describe it so much better. Odd. --
ITTigerClawIK Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers	Posted - 2010.08.04 10:15:00 - [8] in Reply to the elite Battleship question, one of these "Elite Battleships" is the Elite Khanid Apocalypse that is essentialy a slightly better version of the navy one but still with the old bonuses... also its black :-P Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected])
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.08.04 14:30:00 - [9] Come on now noob. Elite battleships are Black ops and Marauders. Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist
edtheshed Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.04 14:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Gladys Pank Come on now noob. Elite battleships are Black ops and Marauders. read some of the comments fool
Elegbara	Posted - 2010.08.04 14:41:00 - [11] Looking at the list, you can't enter the mission in a freighter or in a pod. While there is little reason in going in a freighter to a mission site, going to a mission in a pod could be useful sometimes. Examples are Recon 1/3 and 2/3. ____________________________________ Open your eyes. And Awaken.
Zofe Stormcaller Shadow Company Legiunea ROmana	Posted - 2010.08.04 15:27:00 - [12] Originally by: ITTigerClawIK in Reply to the elite Battleship question, one of these "Elite Battleships" is the Elite Khanid Apocalypse that is essentialy a slightly better version of the navy one but still with the old bonuses... also its black :-P A black apoc sounds pretty goddamn scary. I'd train amarr if I could get my hands on one. Do or did any actually exist?
Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.08.04 15:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Gladys Pank Come on now noob. Elite battleships are Black ops and Marauders. Hahaha, no they are not, Black ops and Marauders are listed seperately.
Celestine Santora	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Elegbara Looking at the list, you can't enter the mission in a freighter or in a pod. While there is little reason in going in a freighter to a mission site, going to a mission in a pod could be useful sometimes. Examples are Recon 1/3 and 2/3. A pod cannot activate the gates in Recon 1 and 2. That's why shuttles are used
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:44:00 - [15] Originally by: Darius Shakor Also, elite BS are not black ops and marauders. They are listed separately. They might be an old database reference to the original concepts for tech 2 variants of ships that have not been removed from that list as there were also original concepts for 'elite cruisers'. Other names that never made it were gunships for frigates and such. Not sure that is correct, t2 cruiser wrecks show up as Elite cruiser wreck on overview thus are a used terminology ingame for t2 ships. I have never had the pleasure of blowing up a t2 bs yet but hope I will to verify
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:44:00 - [16] Originally by: Brian Ballsack Originally by: Gladys Pank Come on now noob. Elite battleships are Black ops and Marauders. Hahaha, no they are not, Black ops and Marauders are listed seperately. Yes they are. Cant help it if CCP fail to stick to naming conventions. Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist
Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.08.04 16:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Idicious Lightbane Originally by: Darius Shakor Also, elite BS are not black ops and marauders. They are listed separately. They might be an old database reference to the original concepts for tech 2 variants of ships that have not been removed from that list as there were also original concepts for 'elite cruisers'. Other names that never made it were gunships for frigates and such. Not sure that is correct, t2 cruiser wrecks show up as Elite cruiser wreck on overview thus are a used terminology ingame for t2 ships. I have never had the pleasure of blowing up a t2 bs yet but hope I will to verify Well it could be that it is a 'catch all' option but then why have the tech 2 BS listed individually on the access list with it? It is kind of redundant. I notice too there is an 'Elite Battleship' option on the filters in the overview, as well as the tech 2 BS types listed on their own. But there is no Elite Frigate and Cruiser option so I doubt the wreck names are really related to this. Back when tech 2 was about to hit the shelves database dumps showed several types of new ships including 'Elite' labelled battleships. Still I will jump on sisi where I can play with expensive toys and try the overview filters to see if toggling off a black ops but leaving elite BS on shows the black ops ship on the overview. But I doubt it. And Tiggy, the Khanid BS is not available in game iir. But yeah the elite BS are more likely these old types used as prototypes and test beds for current tech 2 BS.
Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.08.04 17:20:00 - [18] OK yeah, tested it with a marauder. With elite battleship checked on and marauder checked off on the overview settings I could not see the marauder. So it is an unused ship class that CCP forgot to remove long ago. ;)

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