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The Racketeer
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:21:00 -
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We are a small armor plate builder in 0.0. We mine all the moon materials and do the full reaction chain all the way up to building plates. A month supply of plates go for 1.2b. The PI fuel cost in Jita is 2.2B. We can not do all of the PI fuel for all the towers being used for the mining and reactions. We are pulling down our towers until CCP gets a handle of the PI monster.
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The Racketeer
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:42:00 -
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Edited by: The Racketeer on 05/08/2010 04:43:10 the sale price of plates have dropped 40% over the last 6 months but we were still turning a profit. the cost of fueling towers has gone up over 100% just in the last 30 days since the introduction of PI even tho we farm up all of our ice products.
If I can not maintain a chain of towers to produce a product unless the sale price of that product goes up by 100%
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Until I get a army of PI planet harvesters willing to sell me their PI production at half Jita prices...
What does that say about the future of t2 prices or t2 production?
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The Racketeer
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:10:00 -
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What does that say about the future of t2 prices or t2 production?
are ships going to slowly end up going up by 40-80% before they level off as t2 producers AI supplied PI fuels run out?
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The Racketeer
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:20:00 -
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Edited by: The Racketeer on 05/08/2010 05:22:06
Originally by: Xearal Yes producing POS fuel is quite profitable these days, as I'm a planeteer, I love these prices. I'm making good money on everything I make, as for requiring so many toons, you're doing it wrong then. Right now, I'm producing enough U238 to keep 10 Large Posses alive ( more actually, but this gives me an oopsie margin ). With a couple mor people like me added in the chain, our alliance will be able to keep 10 large moon mining posses up and produce everything we need for our manufacturing.
Basicly, since the situation for you is untenable, that means your product is too cheap, so increase their price. if it doesn't sell stockpile until those prices rise.
Robotics is a higher level of production requiring more planets and more reactions. I could not be asked to do lots of short high volume cycles like it sounds like you do to get the output required. I started stabbing babies with just 2-3 5-hour cycles a day.
we had 4 multi boxers interested and that accounted for 10 alts... not nearly enough to maintain a chain. even if they did.. I would need to ask them to sell to corp at or below half of what they could get on the market just to break even. What would you say if I asked you to sell me PI mats at half market? NO I suspect, so that hardly solves the problem.
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The Racketeer
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:36:00 -
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We did stockpile like 60 days of AI fuel. Sadly it was not enough.
I think you all fail to realize the size of the gap that has to close before one could get back in to T2 production again.
eventually the produces will burn through the AI seeded supply they have and then the market will have to adjust. If PI does not come down, and why would it really, then T2 prices will have to go up, and by a lot.
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