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Scoundrelus Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:51:00 - [1] I have been away from EVE for one year now and I've returned and I've been looking for a corporation to join where I could do some low sec piracy with a close knit group of peeps. Now I've advertised my services and from what I'm seeing nearly everyone and their pet gerbil are in an alliance now. I asked around wondering whats going on and everyone is saying EVE is getting blobby and one must blob up to survive. Is this true? Should I just give in and join up with a 0.0 alliance and put my days of piracy behind me? Or should I continue my noble crusade to rid all Asteroid-Kind of oppressive miner regimes?
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:14:00 - [2] Originally by: Scoundrelus I asked around wondering whats going on and everyone is saying EVE is getting blobby and one must blob up to survive. I've been playing eve since late 2006 and I've been listening to this particular line whole time. There was always some other undefined mythological era when there was no blob (ironically for 2008 players this will be 2008, for 2009- 2009 etc). Quite funny really.
Scoundrelus Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:18:00 - [3] Originally by: Vrabac Originally by: Scoundrelus I asked around wondering whats going on and everyone is saying EVE is getting blobby and one must blob up to survive. I've been playing eve since late 2006 and I've been listening to this particular line whole time. There was always some other undefined mythological era when there was no blob (ironically for 2008 players this will be 2008, for 2009- 2009 etc). Quite funny really. I sincerely hope you're right. I don't wanna become a high sec merc or something.
ItsmeHcK1	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:16:00 - [4] Originally by: Vrabac Originally by: Scoundrelus I asked around wondering whats going on and everyone is saying EVE is getting blobby and one must blob up to survive. I've been playing eve since late 2006 and I've been listening to this particular line whole time. There was always some other undefined mythological era when there was no blob (ironically for 2008 players this will be 2008, for 2009- 2009 etc). Quite funny really. Confirming this. As a member of the Tuskers, I get quite a bit of piracy done down here, some solo, some in gang, but never in a blob.
Mitsune Konno	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:21:00 - [5] small scale pvp-piracy is still out there. You just have to fight at a disadvantage for the other side to engage.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:34:00 - [6] Alliance does not automatically mean blob. Non-alliance does not automatically mean non-blob. Many of the pirate groups are in alliances for various reasons (a training corp, a main corp, a logistics corp, for example) but still encourage solo and small gang piracy. While it's true that more guns usually equals more success, this isn't always the case, and nobody can force you to fly with a blob if you choose not to do so. There's still solo and small gang fights out there; you just need to stay away from the popular hot spots where there's far more e-peen waggling than real fighting anyway (I'm looking at you, Amamake). Fix Rockets in ~~'08~~ ~~'09~~ ~~2010~~ ~~2011~~ 2012?!
Helios Black Wraith.Wing Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:12:00 - [7] Originally by: Mitsune Konno small scale pvp-piracy is still out there. You just have to fight at a disadvantage for the other side to engage. This. Be prepared to take on very one-sided odds. Tuskers are a good group of people to fight against that don't blob. I was in Hellhounds for a little while, that although in an alliance rarely fly more than 10 deep. Originally by: Helicity Boson Maybe you should go play Uno with your mom so you can be "second winner" again.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:05:00 - [8] MeatSausage definitely does not blob. Its really more of a jiggle.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:12:00 - [9] Originally by: ItsmeHcK1 Confirming this. As a member of the Tuskers, I get quite a bit of piracy done down here, some solo, some in gang, but never in a blob. I once got accused of blobbing a guy with me in a thorax and a corpmate in an ishtar.. Apparently a 2v1 (and he was in a cane too, i thought i was dead for sure but engaged anyway) is now a blob.. Replying to threads without reading them since 2008
FunzzeR Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.08.11 03:07:00 - [10] The Blob is a lie... (in lowsec) PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!! THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!!
Spruillo Gallente Spruillo Corp	Posted - 2010.08.11 03:32:00 - [11] Edited by: Spruillo on 11/08/2010 03:33:50 All this crappy thread needs now is more howtofixlosec. Suprised it hasnt already went there. Must be that time of month again
Razzor Death Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.08.11 03:44:00 - [12] Originally by: Mitsune Konno small scale pvp-piracy is still out there. You just have to fight at a disadvantage for the other side to engage. lol quoted for truth. +10 internets for you
Mr Mork	Posted - 2010.08.11 04:09:00 - [13] A point to be made about blobbing is almost anyone traveling in a group will do it to save a gang mate's ship or just because its a fight they can get to. The concept of blobbing is very skewed. I don't know how many times I've raged because someone who brought a gang in versus me solo said gf in local because to them 6 and falcon versus 1 was a good fight. The more casual a player is the more likely it is that they'll play in an easy environment where they can get fights often and x up to a big fleet that is never outnumbered or can always find fights by camping the same gate.
vironox	Posted - 2010.08.11 04:24:00 - [14] I am somewhat new to this game. So if you don't mind me asking... What is a "blob"?
Ralnik Mutineers	Posted - 2010.08.11 04:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Mitsune Konno small scale pvp-piracy is still out there. You just have to fight at a disadvantage for the other side to engage. Pretty much this.. there are plenty of fights out there as long as you are willing to fight against the odds. The only draw back is it's pretty hard to solo these days with out a scout alt if you fly anything bigger than a frig. It's not just gate camps that you have to be weary of, but all the fail traps as well. There are tons of tools in low sec, that love to try to bait pirates in belts then blob in with 5 ECM ships and 20 BC's.
Warezmy Carr Gallente Extortion Unlimited	Posted - 2010.08.11 05:06:00 - [16] Edited by: Warezmy Carr on 11/08/2010 05:15:22 Quote: I am somewhat new to this game. So if you don't mind me asking... What is a "blob"? A blob is a group of enemy ships that outnumbers your own group. The actual number of ships that constitutes a blob varies based on who's telling the story. For a solo hunter, three or more might be a blob. For a gang of 10, 15 or more might be a blob. Edit: Scoundrelus -- come visit Metropolis region low-sec. Usually no blobs around, except when Eve-Uni decides to show up in force. You'll like it out here. ---------- My typical ship fit: Highs: teeth Mediums: claws Lows: nads I am an outlaw.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.11 06:22:00 - [17] Originally by: Mr Mork I don't know how many times I've raged because someone who brought a gang in versus me solo said gf in local because to them 6 and falcon versus 1 was a good fight. Oh is THAT what gf means! I thought it was get ****ed!! OMG! I've been so rude to so many people because of a misunderstanding! Replying to threads without reading them since 2008
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.08.11 06:31:00 - [18] The days of the blob are numbered. CCP will not fix lag, and that's a game mechanic. I welcome it. You want kills, find them the hard way, like a real hunter.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.11 08:00:00 - [19] Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer The days of the blob are numbered. CCP will not fix lag, and that's a game mechanic. I welcome it. You want kills, find them the hard way, like a real hunter. EVE IS DIEING!! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!!! Replying to threads without reading them since 2008
Zanaraxtarus	Posted - 2010.08.11 11:30:00 - [20] Originally by: Ralnik Originally by: Mitsune Konno It's not just gate camps that you have to be WEARY of I think you meant "wary" there, but you DID get it right --Zan-- Ban Mr. Richardson! [I was respectful there, I called him "Mr" and deleted the bad word] (quantity/quality studies do NOT apply to EVE. WoW, YES. EVE, NO!)
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.08.11 12:52:00 - [21] Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 11/08/2010 12:54:30 Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: ItsmeHcK1 Confirming this. As a member of the Tuskers, I get quite a bit of piracy done down here, some solo, some in gang, but never in a blob. I once got accused of blobbing a guy with me in a thorax and a corpmate in an ishtar.. Apparently a 2v1 (and he was in a cane too, i thought i was dead for sure but engaged anyway) is now a blob.. You didn't count in your drones, so guy was fighting against overwhelming odds, naturally As for blobs and such... well, it was somewhat better few years ago, especially when nanoage lasted. You could go solo in a Hurricane and get 5-10 solo HAC/Recon kills in a day, now it's really a rare sight and even if you run into one.. it won't engage a BC any longer :) Other changes that made solo less viable was the rig change(every cruiser/BC running trimarked/CDFEd, oh yeah) and the transfer from fitting dual reps on everything to buffer fits(going vs dual rep gangs in gankfit BC was fun). You still can go out and fly solo/small gang sucessfully, although playfield is somewhat more limited than before. Albeit, WHs do compensate for that in a way. PS. Also with ISK being so easy to acquire nowadays, I find myself(and other people, actually) not caring to ransom anymore. Exceptions might come up, but... that's one thing which makes me bit sad.
weedmasta Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.08.11 15:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: ItsmeHcK1 Confirming this. As a member of the Tuskers, I get quite a bit of piracy done down here, some solo, some in gang, but never in a blob. I once got accused of blobbing a guy with me in a thorax and a corpmate in an ishtar.. Apparently a 2v1 (and he was in a cane too, i thought i was dead for sure but engaged anyway) is now a blob.. Blobbing is a term used far too often and most of the time in the wrong sense. Ever since FW i think it may have gone for the better in terms of blobs. The larger groups are much less mobile than before and are more territorial and if you know those territories it is very easy to avoid them. Piracy has, in some areas, changed but it is still lots of fun :) ___________________________________ Shuuuun, shuuuun the smacktalkers.
Goldman Suchs	Posted - 2010.08.11 15:19:00 - [23] Quote: Blobbing is a term used far too often and most of the time in the wrong sense What also gets used too often is 'spike' as in 'local is spiking' which is basicly meaningless. To me a 'spike' is 80 ships, but it can turn out to be 3 shuttles jumping in.
Ja'Dur Deathwalker Minmatar Rookies Academy Rookie Empire	Posted - 2010.08.11 15:31:00 - [24] I think too many people have the wrong idea about a blob, We have gate camps, 3-8 ships, this is a gang not a blob... Eve Uni come in 20-50 ships moving in fleet formation - This is a blob..... Trying to live beyond 30 days without being podded again....
Alazontez Gallenteur Gallente Wolf-Monkey Bastards WolfMonkey Bastards	Posted - 2010.08.11 16:04:00 - [25] Gonna toss my 2 isk in here. I would imagine piracy in Eve is still viable as like others have said small scale and solo pvp is still very viable. You just have to get out, be smart about it, and be willing to take that risk, and prepare to get trapped and ganged every once in a while. As far as blobbing goes, personally, I've always imagined it as the opposite of a fleet. With a fleet, you have cohesion and organization in ship selection and role. The fleet functions together as a unit, everything is there for a reason. A blob on the other hand is everyone you could find in any ship they had handy. The only organization going on there is the target calling. **Disclaimer: Please disregard the above words contained in this post as they are probably wrong and the poster is most likely an idiot ---------------------------------------------- There is no honor in war, only victory and defeat Not needing a fleet and not bringing a fleet are 2 completely different things. - Lana Torrin
LittleTerror Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.08.11 17:01:00 - [26] Edited by: LittleTerror on 11/08/2010 17:01:55 Well... There does not seem to be many pirate corps left but they do still exist, I've had to avoid one corp in particular in the system tasti (spelling?) there are also others frequently roaming around in that area. But imo and the reason I'm currently fixing my security status is there is nothing worth pirating in lowsec at least, as soon as they see the probes they warp off. Anyone ratting in belts are mostly likely very new and have nothing worth onboard nor will they have enough isk to pay a ransom. I donno really, I got bored of camping gates, gate camping sucks and I've done belt piracy but its just not as good as it was when I first started pirating. I think piracy in lowsec needs some boost for it too be fun again, you would have thought there would be more people ratting in lowsec now with the chance of a battleship NPC spawn. However this is not the case because CCP only half done it, you are very lucky to find one BS NPC spawn in lowsec systems, so I can understand its not worth the risk. Lowsec needs to be treated like null sec with regards to npc's and ore in belts imo but with the same sentry guns and no dictor or warp bubbles. Then we might have corps that want some decent area of space with out having to worry about sov and all that crap. Then we might have something for pirates to actually do instead of camping a stargate which is rather lame indeed, it would also give these corps that move into lowsec to exploit the wealth a common foe.
Alazontez Gallenteur Gallente Wolf-Monkey Bastards WolfMonkey Bastards	Posted - 2010.08.11 17:15:00 - [27] Originally by: LittleTerror I think piracy in lowsec needs some boost for it too be fun again..... Lowsec needs to be treated like null sec with regards to npc's and ore in belts imo but with the same sentry guns and no dictor or warp bubbles. I completely agree with you that lowsec needs some lovin, but what you are suggesting here is essentially a nerf to NCP 0.0 as any corporations / players working out there to exploit said resources will likely move to lowsec for the added security. ---------------------------------------------- There is no honor in war, only victory and defeat Not needing a fleet and not bringing a fleet are 2 completely different things. - Lana Torrin
Chigy Minmatar Sausage Banking	Posted - 2010.08.11 18:56:00 - [28] Highsec griefing is the new low sec pirating
jimmyjam Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2010.08.11 21:38:00 - [29] Since when was there piracy in eve? Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida
Zepple Golden Clover Astrogeologists	Posted - 2010.08.11 23:09:00 - [30] Originally by: jimmyjam Since when was there piracy in eve? JIMMEH!!! how u doing m8, tribs here :) And yea eve gets bloby thats because way more ppl play this game nowadays, which is good. if you dont like blobs just go to wh space :) ------------- Zepples signature
Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.08.11 23:34:00 - [31] We recently moved to low sec, and you get a lot of blobs moving about, but you learn to avoid them, you can find a lot of solo/small gang pvp. having a covert ops alt realy helps, or jsut someone to scout. Don't be discouraged, just need to be a bit more sneaky :)
jimmyjam Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2010.08.12 01:05:00 - [32] Originally by: Zepple Originally by: jimmyjam Since when was there piracy in eve? JIMMEH!!! how u doing m8, tribs here :) And yea eve gets bloby thats because way more ppl play this game nowadays, which is good. if you dont like blobs just go to wh space :) Sup lover lets bring TURBY Back give me a reason to log in. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida
Scoundrelus Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.08.12 04:10:00 - [33] Actually I've been lucky enough to find a lot more targets in low sec than I used to even a year ago. Looks like piracy is still alive and kicking. I was just in a bad region.
Ralnik Mutineers	Posted - 2010.08.12 04:46:00 - [34] Edited by: Ralnik on 12/08/2010 04:48:41 Originally by: Zanaraxtarus I think you meant "wary" there, but you DID get it right heh.. yea I guess I did.. For the OP as far as Blobs.. I tend to use the term blob a lot more loosely then many because I personally don't have a pre-determined size that equals a blob. Many people will argue that 20 or 30 can't be a blob because a real blob in null sec for instance is many times more. However my thinking goes along the lines of what do you expect to fight when you form your fleet or what is the intended target. If you are trying to kill some lone sucker in his prized Hurricane such as my self, then 10 guys is easily a blob or more likely a gank fleet. Meanwhile if those 10 guys fight another small gang of 8 guys then they aren't really blobbing. This scales up, up and up.. and it also has a lot to do with ships and so on.. If those 10 guys are all in Rifters and fight 5 BC's then they aren't really blobbing the 5 BC's because they are at a ship disadvantage despite outnumbering the other side 2 to 1. I think blob essentially comes down to purposely bringing over powering force with out any intention of providing a fight but rather just looking to gank targets. It's not always about numbers IMO..

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