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Mitsune Konno	Posted - 2010.08.12 21:56:00 - [1] It seems like Eve has gone big, in a bad way. Everytime something negative is said about CCP/Eve these days, it's moderated for being off-topic or trolling. The reply is deleted from the thread. If you make a post about it, it's shot down as a rumor thread and not welcome or there's already another thread about it. So it's locked or deleted. So you go back to the "other" thread and reply, where your reply is deleted because it's troling/spam/whatever, making the whole thing cyclical. Now I know, some of it is warranted, some replies/threads are doubles of others, but it seems like more and more when CCP is shown in a light, they don't like, the people are silenced. This form of censorship seems to be growing with ever more zealous mods. I believe the CCP propaganda machine should divert resources from suppressing its followers, back to supporting them. Instead of just shutting eveyone up and saying things are all rainbows and sunshine, maybe address the issues we're bringing up. I welcome your flames, however i'm sure this thread will be locked/deleted. I'm also a litle concerned that CCP will seek retribution in the form of my modules mysteriously not activating during my next fight.
Katy Karkinoff Minmatar Psycho Chicks	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:00:00 - [2] I miss MITNALLLLLLLLLLLLL
Jane Vherokior Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Mitsune Konno Everytime something negative is said about CCP/Eve these days, it's moderated for being off-topic or trolling. 0/10 for trolling. And the above quoted sentence in patently incorrect. May I suggest you learn what you're talking about before gong public? kthxbye
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:01:00 - [4] Edited by: Stick Cult on 12/08/2010 22:03:09 In other news, I'm currently flying a Tengu doing Angel Extravaganza in Waira. This thread is now about how missions are way too profitable. IBTL/M edit: All topics degrading into off topic-ness and trolling has nothing to do with "CCP Fascism" edit2: oh and Liang, it's a HAM Tengu. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Torakenat	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:02:00 - [5] Your right its one big conspiracy to do everything in their power to make your gaming experience as horrible as possible. By the way, my experience isn't all that bad. Of all the horrible games I have played, this doesnt' even come close to that bad /cough swg /cough.
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:02:00 - [6] I haven't seen this but I'm not big on trolling/saying things that are without proof. Having said that I've not been in every thread so maybe this week has seen a change in 'policy' like 'they had their time to rant/vent shut it down'. -------------------------------------------------------------- The 5 minute forum time delay was a crime against humanity that CCP took forever to address.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Damu'Khonde	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:03:00 - [7] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 12/08/2010 22:04:32 Originally by: Mitsune Konno Now I know, some of it is warranted, some replies/threads are doubles of others, but it seems like more and more when CCP is shown in a light, they don't like, the people are silenced. This form of censorship seems to be growing with ever more zealous mods. I believe the CCP propaganda machine should divert resources from suppressing its followers, back to supporting them. Instead of just shutting eveyone up and saying things are all rainbows and sunshine, maybe address the issues we're bringing up. I remember a few situations where we were not silenced and CCP bowed to the masses and one of them very recent and totally about censorship I do not think they have said things are all rainbows and butterflies either. I think that CCP said, using words other then I will use, that everyone needs to chill out becuase we made a buisiness decision and we will not work on fixing the issues that the forum goers are crying for at this point for another 18 months so HTFU. Now they are working with that in mind and if you do not like the cencorship you know what your options are. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:04:00 - [8] Fascism? Gee, when you offer such civil and rational posts I cannot imagine how anyone gets offended. Clearly CCP, in moderating comments on their own private forums, is behaving exactly like the ****s did. Who could even question such an obvious comparison?
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Mitsune Konno Everytime something negative is said about CCP/Eve these days, it's moderated for being off-topic or trolling. The reply is deleted from the thread. The sheer amount of negative replies that criticize CCP all over the place and countless threads accusing CCP of this or the other that are still open would seem to contradict you, big time. Quote: Now I know, some of it is warranted, some replies/threads are doubles of others, but it seems like more and more when CCP is shown in a light, they don't like, the people are silenced. Doesn't really seem that way to me. To me, it seems that thread creep is being fought against (urging people to keep the complaining about one topic in one single large thread as opposed to countless smaller ones), and mostly just the ACTUAL troll/offensive/spammy replies get deleted (and not even all of them). You do realize that most of the time, redacted/deleted posts/threads have been reported by PLAYERS first, right ? Then a mod decides if the reported stuff actually deserves action. Quote: I welcome your flames, however i'm sure this thread will be locked/deleted. I'm relatively confident it will either die off due to 90-day-no-posts rule, or get locked after it degenerates into just a couple of pages of random flaming between just about anybody posting in it. Quote: I'm also a litle concerned that CCP will seek retribution in the form of my modules mysteriously not activating during my next fight. Now you're either trolling or being more paranoid than it's healthy, even for EVE. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Mitsune Konno	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Jane Vherokior Originally by: Mitsune Konno Everytime something negative is said about CCP/Eve these days, it's moderated for being off-topic or trolling. 0/10 for trolling. And the above quoted sentence in patently incorrect. May I suggest you learn what you're talking about before gong public? kthxbye wait, so you've read every thread/reply on eve-o and seen every bit of moderation to know this?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:06:00 - [11] Fight tha powah! Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:06:00 - [12] No Character can be found with 'ccp fascism' in the beginning of its name. So, no. Yes. Yes, I am.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Mitsune Konno wait, so you've read every thread/reply on eve-o and seen every bit of moderation to know this? [sarcasm]Yes, we have.[/sarcasm] Have you ? _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Damu'Khonde	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Mitsune Konno wait, so you've read every thread/reply on eve-o and seen every bit of moderation to know this? And I ask you the same Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Stick Cult edit2: oh and Liang, it's a HAM Tengu. Blasphemy! Just make sure you have a HML Tengu ready to rock and roll too. ;-) -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:07:00 - [16] Edited by: Stick Cult on 12/08/2010 22:12:15 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Stick Cult edit2: oh and Liang, it's a HAM Tengu. Blasphemy! Just make sure you have a HML Tengu ready to rock and roll too. ;-) -Liang When I have the isk... And when I have tech 2 HMLs... Right now, I only have... wait for it... 17 mil. Can I halp? Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:07:00 - [17] Originally by: Mitsune Konno It seems like Eve has gone big, in a bad way. Everytime something negative is said about CCP/Eve these days, it's moderated for being off-topic or trolling. The reply is deleted from the thread. If you make a post about it, it's shot down as a rumor thread and not welcome or there's already another thread about it. So it's locked or deleted. So you go back to the "other" thread and reply, where your reply is deleted because it's troling/spam/whatever, making the whole thing cyclical. Now I know, some of it is warranted, some replies/threads are doubles of others, but it seems like more and more when CCP is shown in a light, they don't like, the people are silenced. This form of censorship seems to be growing with ever more zealous mods. I believe the CCP propaganda machine should divert resources from suppressing its followers, back to supporting them. Instead of just shutting eveyone up and saying things are all rainbows and sunshine, maybe address the issues we're bringing up. I welcome your flames, however i'm sure this thread will be locked/deleted. I'm also a litle concerned that CCP will seek retribution in the form of my modules mysteriously not activating during my next fight. You're spot on - CCP are censoring everyone and everything when it's our complete right to spout as much vitriolic nonsense and further rumour and hearsay on THEIR board as we want. I'M GOING TO GET MYSELF A LAWYER AND SUE THESE SUM***ES FOR INFRINGING ON MY RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH, GEWDEMMIT. Quote:** I'm also a litle concerned that CCP will seek retribution in the form of my modules mysteriously not activating during my next fight. This is a distinct possiblity. You know they're reading your EvE mail too, right? RIGHT? .
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Mitsune Konno wait, so you've read every thread/reply on eve-o and seen every bit of moderation to know this? Ask yourself this, then rethink your thread. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mitsune Konno	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:08:00 - [19] Originally by: Akita T Quote: I'm also a litle concerned that CCP will seek retribution in the form of my modules mysteriously not activating during my next fight. Now you're either trolling or being more paranoid than it's healthy, even for EVE. that was more of a joke, but I have seen some very unusual things happen during combat, after saying negative things about ccp and its devs/gms.
Balsak Minmatar Friends of Bigfoot	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:11:00 - [20] Seriously, F-Off and die. CCP has been extremely tolerant of the criticism and allowing people to voice their concerns and just be down rude rude and pathetic. I wish they would actually really clamp down and delete all the trash that has plagued the forums the last couple of months. This place has become a sickening cesspool of ** and when I come here and read more like this, it really makes me cry at how much Eve community has really sunk. I really should just stop coming here and reading this ** as it really annoys the hell out of me at this point but old habits are hard to break. There was a time when this forum was actually an enjoyable place with intelligent discussions, I hope that time makes a return someday.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Mitsune Konno I have seen some very unusual things happen during combat, after saying negative things about ccp and its devs/gms. CONFIRMATION BIAS !!! _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Mitsune Konno	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:12:00 - [22] Originally by: Balsak Seriously, F-Off and die. CCP has been extremely tolerant of the criticism and allowing people to voice their concerns and just be down rude rude and pathetic. I wish they would actually really clamp down and delete all the trash that has plagued the forums the last couple of months. This place has become a sickening cesspool of ** and when I come here and read more like this, it really makes me cry at how much Eve community has really sunk. I really should just stop coming here and reading this ** as it really annoys the hell out of me at this point but old habits are hard to break. There was a time when this forum was actually an enjoyable place with intelligent discussions, I hope that time makes a return someday. CCP = Jesus? "it is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority"
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Mitsune Konno CCP = Jesus? "it is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority" Confirming CCP is, collectively, Jesus. Also, we aren't citizens. We are players subscribing to a service. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:14:00 - [24] 0/10 for weak ass trolling + thinking that EvE was a Democracy to begin with. This is clearly a signature.

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:18:00 - [25] Threads are only locked or post deleted for breaking the forum rules. You are welcome to express your opinion as well as it is done in a constructive manner and not done through trolling or ranting. If you have any questions about what we have done you are more than welcome to open a petition under Other Issues -> Forums and discuss it with us directly. However I am going to have to lock this thread for discussion of moderation. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us


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