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enterprisePSI Gallente Unimatrix 0.1	Posted - 2010.08.16 08:14:00 - [1] Edited by: enterprisePSI on 16/08/2010 08:14:53 True story i will never say bad things about ccp There is no lag. Tears, or the titan dies!
mechtech SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2010.08.16 08:22:00 - [2] Huh, I don't know if they should refund mistakes like this... Hitting a wrong key in a market window is no different than hitting a wrong key with your faction fit raven and losing it. You even get a market confirmation box right? Thank the GM for the favor, I doubt people usually get their money back from things like this.
enterprisePSI Gallente Unimatrix 0.1	Posted - 2010.08.16 08:25:00 - [3] No i write on the blog that no confirmation dialog poped up. That the item is well above regional average. So this is why i probably got refunded. Even now, if i sell an incursus for 20 mil the dialog pops up.... Tears, or the titan dies!
Dezolf Minmatar DAX Action Stance	Posted - 2010.08.16 08:26:00 - [4] Originally by: mechtech You even get a market confirmation box right? According to the blog, he didn't get the box.
Cista2 Hydra Investment Fund	Posted - 2010.08.16 08:39:00 - [5] There is no popup box. I believe there is a box if you wildly UNDERsell your item, because it would instasell, meaning you could actually lose the entire value of your stock by just hitting one digit too few. But they never seemed to care about this one. I did the same thing back when my NAV was about 7-800 mil, I lost 138 mil in one mouseclick. Since then I never keep more than 5-6 % of my NAV in one wallet. In case I have more liquid I have a "reserves" division in my corp wallet where I deposit it. ----------------------- "Signatures" chatroom / Hydra Fund / LLSE Stock Market
Builder Robert	Posted - 2010.08.16 11:17:00 - [6] Originally by: mechtech Huh, I don't know if they should refund mistakes like this... Hitting a wrong key in a market window is no different than hitting a wrong key with your faction fit raven and losing it. You even get a market confirmation box right? Thank the GM for the favor, I doubt people usually get their money back from things like this. Well that guy got his CNR back too...perhaps I should petition for when I spent 100m on one unit of projectile ammo.
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.	Posted - 2010.08.16 12:38:00 - [7] Originally by: Builder Robert Originally by: mechtech Huh, I don't know if they should refund mistakes like this... Hitting a wrong key in a market window is no different than hitting a wrong key with your faction fit raven and losing it. You even get a market confirmation box right? Thank the GM for the favor, I doubt people usually get their money back from things like this. Well that guy got his CNR back too...perhaps I should petition for when I spent 100m on one unit of projectile ammo. Just keep in mind the guy lost his CNR because of an exploit
Sepi Gamma Draconis Industries Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.16 12:59:00 - [8] seems this is happening more 'n' more, same thing has just happened to me, items sold at about 1% of their value and no warning about selling under market value. Tested it again on another item (selling it for 0.01 isk when value is 8isk ) and it gave me warning but not on first transaction. Have linked this post to the petition Just a word of note just make sure you have put in the right amount when changing buy/sell orders :)
Builder Robert	Posted - 2010.08.16 13:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Builder Robert Originally by: mechtech Huh, I don't know if they should refund mistakes like this... Hitting a wrong key in a market window is no different than hitting a wrong key with your faction fit raven and losing it. You even get a market confirmation box right? Thank the GM for the favor, I doubt people usually get their money back from things like this. Well that guy got his CNR back too...perhaps I should petition for when I spent 100m on one unit of projectile ammo. Just keep in mind the guy lost his CNR because of an exploit He undocked with a timer, he knew exactly what could happen when he did but he still did it.
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.08.16 14:26:00 - [10] You're lucky you got a happy GM... I lost of T2 fit drake because I accidentally remote repair shield on a RAT in a mission instead of my buddy I was helping out getting started in EVE.. Apparently if you help any NPCs in high-sec Concord will come and make you PAY!. I petitioned it because I thought it was a bug, being Concorded in my very own mission seemed like a bug. But no it gave me a global timer, I lost standing (I did have 5.5 Sec) and my ship etc. Like I had just ganked a player. It seems like I was a victim of an overzealous Concord attack LOL The GM was less then apathetic despite what happened. So you're lucky you got a forgiving GM :) Amarr for Life
Trebor Whettam	Posted - 2010.08.16 14:44:00 - [11] Originally by: SencneS You're lucky you got a happy GM... I lost of T2 fit drake because I accidentally remote repair shield on a RAT in a mission instead of my buddy I was helping out getting started in EVE.. Apparently if you help any NPCs in high-sec Concord will come and make you PAY!. I petitioned it because I thought it was a bug, being Concorded in my very own mission seemed like a bug. But no it gave me a global timer, I lost standing (I did have 5.5 Sec) and my ship etc. Like I had just ganked a player. It seems like I was a victim of an overzealous Concord attack LOL The GM was less then apathetic despite what happened. So you're lucky you got a forgiving GM :) People used to RR scram frigs and pop all the triggers hoping that the missioner would become overwhelmed. Funny stuff.
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2010.08.16 14:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Trebor Whettam People used to RR scram frigs and pop all the triggers hoping that the missioner would become overwhelmed. Funny stuff. That is what I rationalized out after the petition was turned down. I even responded that why would I remote rep the ships that are attacking me and how CCP should have thought about that before issuing a blanket attack order on any repairs. Allowing me the person getting attacked to remote repair if I wanted to.. Apparently that reasoning did pan out either, but I thought it was a good attempt. Amarr for Life
F90OEX F9X WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.08.16 19:19:00 - [13] Hey he admitted he ****ed up, he got a lucky GM and ISK returned, good for him.. funny story overall 7/10
Righteous Deeds Diverse Endeavors	Posted - 2010.08.16 19:58:00 - [14] Had a similar thing happen, made an error on a sell price to a HUGE broker fee. The solution is to assess the broker fee only when the item sells, not when it's listed, and at a percentage of whatever the asking fee is at the time of sale.
enterprisePSI Gallente Unimatrix 0.1	Posted - 2010.08.17 04:58:00 - [15] To be honest, in my eve time, i have filled 7 petitions, with various subjects, and got them all answered and completed fast and effective. That can't be luck To prevent epic trolling, GMs have nothing to do with developers. So i can still praise GMs and hate developers for tyrannis at the same time Tears, or the titan dies!
Thoraxe Rig Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.17 19:58:00 - [16] Originally by: enterprisePSI To be honest, in my eve time, i have filled 7 petitions, with various subjects, and got them all answered and completed fast and effective. That can't be luck To prevent epic trolling, GMs have nothing to do with developers. So i can still praise GMs and hate developers for tyrannis at the same time Tbh, You shouldn't be hatin' the devs, you should be hating the guys telling them what to do and assigning the teams.
Graic Valente Gallente Valente Galactic Enterprises	Posted - 2010.08.17 21:18:00 - [17] Weird things happen on the market. A while ago I was placing a series of large buy order at 4-4 and for no reason one popped up at a low sec station in the middle of nowhere. Of course I was totally boned even before the 5 minute timer. (Props to someone with all that gear in low sec just waiting for a massive buy order!) Anyways, I petetioned and although I had buy orders seconds before and after this error, no skills or time to travel to low sec to raise the order at that station it was like talking to a brick wall. So long story short congrats.
Lucyna Minmatar Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises	Posted - 2010.08.17 22:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Graic Valente Weird things happen on the market. A while ago I was placing a series of large buy order at 4-4 and for no reason one popped up at a low sec station in the middle of nowhere. Of course I was totally boned even before the 5 minute timer. (Props to someone with all that gear in low sec just waiting for a massive buy order!) Anyways, I petetioned and although I had buy orders seconds before and after this error, no skills or time to travel to low sec to raise the order at that station it was like talking to a brick wall. So long story short congrats. Procurement ftl?
Research Monkey1	Posted - 2010.08.19 05:31:00 - [19] I once lost a few hundred mill due to lag when transitioning between items in the market browser and setting a buy order. No warning box, no refund either.
Dhaaran	Posted - 2010.08.19 06:19:00 - [20] a awesome feature that would really help for some of us: make the number format changeable between the US version and the ISO Standard. US: 1,234,567.89 whereas ISO: 1.234.567,89 would enable everyone to use the decimal thingy on their numpad which would make things much easier :)
Quinn Sheep Amarr Love for Pew Pew The Strangers.	Posted - 2010.08.19 12:32:00 - [21] C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache\prefs.ini decimal=. digit=, :) You can change your preference there if I understand this correctly.
Quinn Sheep Amarr Love for Pew Pew The Strangers.	Posted - 2010.08.19 12:36:00 - [22] C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache\prefs.ini decimal=. digit=, :) You can change your preference there if I understand this correctly.
Trebor Whettam	Posted - 2010.08.19 14:36:00 - [23] Edited by: Trebor Whettam on 19/08/2010 14:39:02 Originally by: Righteous Deeds Had a similar thing happen, made an error on a sell price to a HUGE broker fee. The solution is to assess the broker fee only when the item sells, not when it's listed, and at a percentage of whatever the asking fee is at the time of sale. That's what the transaction tax does. The broker fees must be paid when orders are placed if they are to serve their purpose, which is to put a cost on setting up buy and sell orders. I'd like to see a customizable sanity check for broker fees. For instance, I'd like to see a nice warning screen when my broker fees exceed 5 mil. This would only kick in on mistakes and rare extremely large orders, so it wouldn't induce the Auto-click Syndrome that makes overly frequent warnings useless. If I lose four mil to a typo, I can grumble for a second and suck it up. For the less weathly, a lower threshold would be preferred. For the rich guys who regularly make >1 bil orders, a higher threshold would be appropriate. That's why customizability is important. The system overhead would be nearly nonexistent.
Xereyn	Posted - 2010.08.20 02:56:00 - [24] Originally by: SencneS Originally by: Trebor Whettam People used to RR scram frigs and pop all the triggers hoping that the missioner would become overwhelmed. Funny stuff. That is what I rationalized out after the petition was turned down. I even responded that why would I remote rep the ships that are attacking me and how CCP should have thought about that before issuing a blanket attack order on any repairs. Allowing me the person getting attacked to remote repair if I wanted to.. Apparently that reasoning did pan out either, but I thought it was a good attempt. If only there was some kind of warning when one is about to do a CONCORD-triggering act, like a popup or something... ... oh wait, there is. If you didn't get a popup warning and you should have, that may be petition-worthy. If you did get a popup and you ignored it, it's your own fault. If you've disabled that popup, it's your own fault.
Sepi Gamma Draconis Industries Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.20 11:46:00 - [25] well update on my 'balls-up' The GM has admitted that they cannot find my warning screen, however they are not refunding my isk as there isn't a reported bug report, so as an unknown bug i am not entitled to a refund???? My answer was 2-fold.. First, every bug has its first event so why should the first person suck it up so everyone else can have refunds? Second, Referred to this post, and asked the age old question regarding refunds (either isk or ships) why is it one person with same problem can get isk back and yet i cannot, even though they admitted that no warning was shown (ie their in game mechanics failed) So lets see what happens. NB I have already written my isk off, anything returned will be a bonus as far as im now concerned.
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.20 16:20:00 - [26] One part in me says that the OP is a bloody loser who got lucky for once. Another part in me knows how hard EVE's interface can suck, and failure due to its stickiness lies around every corner of it. It is just not worth a story any more to me. --
Maria Yumeno	Posted - 2010.08.21 04:11:00 - [27] That guy is a lucky git :) I once placed a buy order 1000x ver regional average due to lag when switching items in the market screen. I too, got no warning box however, seeing as the sell order was instantly filled ccp wouldn;t do anything. i was just happy it was only 300m and not 3b

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