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Borokul
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:28:00 -
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How safe is EVE Metrics to use ? I was about to signup and my anti virus program (McAfee) warned me it had no certification. Anyone care to comment ?
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Lucyna
Minmatar Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:57:00 -
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2/10
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 23:32:00 -
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It's a virus and will send all your eve account info to the guys who run it.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Londo Cebb
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Posted - 2010.08.17 00:01:00 -
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McAfee thinks everything is a virus.
I have used the up-loader before with no ill effect (after a targeted virus scan of the installer and a follow up scan of my entire machine after installation). Make sure you are downloading it directly from EVE Metrics.
The only reason I stopped using it was, that I didn't feel like giving my competition easy access to regional trade data.
As with anything you download from the internet I'd say you have a 50/50 chance of it being safe.
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Londo Cebb
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Posted - 2010.08.17 06:30:00 -
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Did I get trolled?
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.17 07:25:00 -
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All an SSL certification means is the traffic between your browser and the website is encrypted. Anybody can buy a certification for their website at around 50 ú$Ç.
I trust Eve Metrics, therefore the question is do you trust me/my opinion.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.08.17 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Borokul How safe is EVE Metrics to use ?
Safe enough.
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SuperTight5
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Posted - 2010.08.17 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Borokul How safe is EVE Metrics to use ?
Ever had an intercourse with seaport hooker without wearing condom? About that safe.
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:25:00 -
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If you use the client to upload your data, be aware that everyone else can see the markets you're looking at. So in terms of Market Safty it's not very secure when considering someone could beat you to the market you're looking at because EVE Metrics updated that data. In terms of Computer security, I'd say it's pretty safe. EVE Account is pretty safe as well, hundreds of not thousands of people use it so.... 100,000 people can't be wrong??
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.08.17 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS If you use the client to upload your data, be aware that everyone else can see the markets you're looking at.
To be more precise, everyone can look at the data you uploaded. It's not that you can look at EVE Metrics data and for example see that Hel O'Ween just uploaded the price for Liquid Ozone in the Domain region (except the EVE Metrics guys, of course, if they wish). You will just see the newly updated prices for LO in Domain. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.08.17 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Originally by: SencneS If you use the client to upload your data, be aware that everyone else can see the markets you're looking at.
To be more precise, everyone can look at the data you uploaded. It's not that you can look at EVE Metrics data and for example see that Hel O'Ween just uploaded the price for Liquid Ozone in the Domain region (except the EVE Metrics guys, of course, if they wish). You will just see the newly updated prices for LO in Domain.
Of cause, I'm just saying that if you see a good deal on the market, and you have the EVE-Metrics client loaded, everyone else can see it as well. Or at least have the information available to them, if they go looking. It's just a consideration, if it makes a difference I consider the same thing for EVE-Central. The markets I'm looking at become publicly accessible the second the data is uploaded.
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Ix Forres
Caldari Righteous Chaps
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:27:00 -
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The SSL certificate we use is issued by StartCom ltd. They are a trusted root authority, and are now included by default in Windows, many Linux distributions, Mac OS X and so on.
http://eve-metrics.com/welcome/ssl_help has more information, including information on how to install the root CA in Opera, which still hasn't added it even in more recent updates.
The warning you receive is about an untrusted root certification authority signing the certificate. The warning is there to prevent you from going on sites with SSL certificates signed by untrusted sources.
SSL in our case isn't hugely important, and is only there to provide encryption of your sensitive data (passwords, API keys) in transit to stop people sniffing that same data if you're on a shared network (University campuses, work, etc). We've enabled it by default to provide users with additional security over an unencrypted connection which is what nearly all EVE sites provide. -- Ix Forres - 3rd Party Application Developer - EVE Metrics - accVIEW
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Originally by: SencneS If you use the client to upload your data, be aware that everyone else can see the markets you're looking at.
To be more precise, everyone can look at the data you uploaded. It's not that you can look at EVE Metrics data and for example see that Hel O'Ween just uploaded the price for Liquid Ozone in the Domain region (except the EVE Metrics guys, of course, if they wish). You will just see the newly updated prices for LO in Domain.
Of cause, I'm just saying that if you see a good deal on the market, and you have the EVE-Metrics client loaded, everyone else can see it as well. Or at least have the information available to them, if they go looking. It's just a consideration, if it makes a difference I consider the same thing for EVE-Central. The markets I'm looking at become publicly accessible the second the data is uploaded.
That data is already publicly available to anybody in that region. If they are outside the region you have plenty of time to exploit the opportunity if you so wish.
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Miklabjarnir Primus
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Posted - 2010.08.23 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Miklabjarnir Primus on 23/08/2010 14:46:59
Originally by: Ix Forres The SSL certificate we use is issued by StartCom ltd. They are a trusted root authority, and are now included by default in Windows, many Linux distributions, Mac OS X and so on.
http://eve-metrics.com/welcome/ssl_help has more information, including information on how to install the root CA in Opera, which still hasn't added it even in more recent updates.
The audits for StartCom have passed muster, so they are now in the rootstore for all current versions of Opera.
Note that an X.509 certificate will not guarantee the honesty of the owner, it is just about identity.
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