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Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:26:00 - [1] So, since we are in Cobalt Edge and surrounding Regions I found out that there is 1 specific Corp that only concists of Makro Ratting Bots. Tho there are differences in the use of those makros. One Corp called: The TopGear, has been found using a fully automated botnet. Meaning that there is ALWAYS 1 Exequror (btw the biggest hint in Russian Drone Space and a diggit name like =-== or just . for havin found a makro ratter) and a Raven. Here are the Corp stats: WTF IS THIS?? I found a guy that stumbled across this weird acting characters first and found out all their timers and that most of their poses are not setup correctly so that u can easily put up a sling in line with the majority of the belts, then get out of system, come back in 10 minutes and warp to the bubble with a Raven cought in it and exequror which is the salvagin and looting ship of those bots. So, this is 1 corp abusing this bot/makro to its max. BUT there r more, especially in these Regions (Cobalt edge, Kavaela expanse, Oasa, Perrigan Falls, outer passage, etherium reach). I stumbled accross alot of Legions with Exequrors the more i came into Oasa and Perrigan Falls. They Pos up imediately when u enter local, like instant, not all of them are run fully automatic, there actually seems to be someone controling his bots and be able to write something^^. My imagination runs wild by thinking of it. Alarm belts when Red enters Local makes a Person actually show up behind his Desk :-). No, this is not funny, i dont wanna know how many else do this, use this bot. So with this Post i want to call out to all u capsuleers out there to help me to get rid of this Plague by goin out there into the Dark, look for Exequrors +Ravens or Legions :-), and check their poses to then set up a sling bubble and destroy them over and over again:-))). If this doesnt work out we will still have a lot of fun in Drone Space Pvping each other cuz there is nothin else there exept some Renter corps with 2 Navy Ravens + Rorqual runnin 24/7 :-) Happy Hunting PS: Contact Juizerdude ingame for more information...., sry dude but my 50 mil for u included this part,... didnt tell ya i know
Minchurra Caldari Feudum Chalybis The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:37:00 - [2] There are macros in the drone regions? This is certainly breaking news.
Tetragamatron Omega	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:42:00 - [3] CCP doesn't care about macroers unless they RMT afaik.
Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:47:00 - [4] im not saying this new to Drone Regions , but returning. I also found a very interesting Articel on German Eve Forums about that Issue, tho a little more fun to read http://www.eveger.de/forum/showthread.php?t=29911 And dont gimme answers like ccp cares not, does care bla... And btw its not makro miners, its a fully automated bot if used so, meaning if shot, he gets new ship , if gets shot again, and again and again he gets a kestrel as u can see in the corp statistics i posted, flys all the way up to his pos and starts the process once the owner has refilled the pos with ravens and presses the go button. This just has to be brought to attention, thats all
Forluhn Amarr Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:56:00 - [5] Originally by: **o Lang im not saying this new to Drone Regions , but returning. I also found a very interesting Articel on German Eve Forums about that Issue, tho a little more fun to read http://www.eveger.de/forum/showthread.php?t=29911 And dont gimme answers like ccp cares not, does care bla... And btw its not makro miners, its a fully automated bot if used so, meaning if shot, he gets new ship , if gets shot again, and again and again he gets a kestrel as u can see in the corp statistics i posted, flys all the way up to his pos and starts the process once the owner has refilled the pos with ravens and presses the go button. This just has to be brought to attention, thats all This is not AI... think about what you are saying here... There is no possible way, there is only one possibility AR (Artificial ****ation) All your base are belong to Amarr
Tetragamatron Omega	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:59:00 - [6] He could be right you know. This AI from the drone npc maybe some how is infected these raven pilot and now they ratting all by themselves.
superteds	Posted - 2010.08.18 00:59:00 - [7] macro russians in my eve, oh my say it aint so!
Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 01:09:00 - [8] ..., grr, i guess i was just shocked by its dimension
Miztli Tonahuac Microcredits	Posted - 2010.08.18 01:27:00 - [9] sometimes, this game is the lulz... insurance fraud has been bombed out. Now please erase macroers (both mining and ratting bots) thanks CCP.
Barakkus Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.08.18 01:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Miztli Tonahuac sometimes, this game is the lulz... insurance fraud has been bombed out. Now please erase macroers (both mining and ratting bots) thanks CCP. They do, I came across a macro program's website, on their forums people were posting screenshots that also contained their character names trying to get tech support for their macro program. I passed the info along to CCP and viola, no more accounts for a few people :P I have a feeling they have/are changing some code to break that particular macro program too...how long before they fix their macro program to get around CCP's fixes? who knows...probably not long :( It's really hard for these guys to stop the macros, from the looks of it it's pretty sophisticated software for the automation. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Daisuke Aoki Gallente Independent Coalition OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.18 01:40:00 - [11] Actually, I noticed a similar thing with the same corp while I was roaming around Cobalt Edge yesterday. Particularly in E0DR-G but I'm sure it's more widespread. Two exequror and a raven on scan, all in a POS whenever I was in system. Kind of suspicious that everyone in the corp throughout the area is using the same exact types of ships everywhere they're seen. And, it's not TOO far-fetched to think a macro would be able to get a new ship when killed. It would have to be a relatively advanced program, but it's not impossible by ANY means.
Mohojo	Posted - 2010.08.18 04:08:00 - [12] X to kill marco people :D
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.18 04:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Daisuke Aoki Actually, I noticed a similar thing with the same corp while I was roaming around Cobalt Edge yesterday. Particularly in E0DR-G but I'm sure it's more widespread. Two exequror and a raven on scan, all in a POS whenever I was in system. Kind of suspicious that everyone in the corp throughout the area is using the same exact types of ships everywhere they're seen. And, it's not TOO far-fetched to think a macro would be able to get a new ship when killed. It would have to be a relatively advanced program, but it's not impossible by ANY means. The person running it would just need the foresight to have a backup in hangar (like when you go pvping)
Hugo Smith	Posted - 2010.08.18 04:42:00 - [14] In soviet russia, macro write you! Sorry i couldnt resist... Ill leave now.
Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 08:33:00 - [15] The person running it would just need the foresight to have a backup in hangar (like when you go pvping) but they really do as i said ask juizerdude ingame on what he has discovered well maybe the bot times in cobalt edge are soon over, but theres still oasa n so on. Anyone tryed anchoring bubblez in every Belt to see if they r able to maneuver themselfes outta it?
Myz Toyou APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2010.08.18 08:56:00 - [16] Originally by: ****o Lang So, since we are in Tribute and surrounding Regions I found out that there is 1 specific Corp that only concists of Makro Ratting Bots. Tho there are differences in the use of those makros. One Corp called: Oberon Incorporated, has been found using a fully automated botnet. Meaning that there is ALWAYS 1 Exequror (btw the biggest hint in Northern Gurista Space and a diggit name like =-== or just . for havin found a makro ratter) and a Raven. Here are the Corp stats: WTF IS THIS ??? I found a guy that stumbled across this weird acting characters first and found out all their timers and that most of their poses are not setup correctly so that u can easily put up a sling in line with the majority of the belts, then get out of system, come back in 10 minutes and warp to the bubble with a Raven cought in it and exequror which is the salvagin and looting ship of those bots. So, this is 1 corp abusing this bot/makro to its max. BUT there r more, especially in these Regions (Tribute, Branch, Venal, Deklein, Tenal, Pure Blind and Fade). I stumbled accross alot of Legions with Exequrors the more i came into Tenal and Branch. They Pos up imediately when u enter local, like instant, not all of them are run fully automatic, there actually seems to be someone controling his bots and be able to write something^^. My imagination runs wild by thinking of it. Alarm belts when Red enters Local makes a Person actually show up behind his Desk :-). No, this is not funny, i dont wanna know how many else do this, use this bot. So with this Post i want to call out to all u capsuleers out there to help me to get rid of this Plague by goin out there into the Dark, look for Exequrors +Ravens or Legions :-), and check their poses to then set up a sling bubble and destroy them over and over again:-))). If this doesnt work out we will still have a lot of fun in Northern Space Pvping each other cuz there is nothin else there exept some Renter corps with 2 Navy Ravens + Rorqual runnin 24/7 :-) Happy Hunting PS: Contact Juizerdude ingame for more information...., sry dude but my 50 mil for u included this part,... didnt tell ya i know fixed OP
Khors Amtek Inc	Posted - 2010.08.18 09:10:00 - [17] This proves it!
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.08.18 09:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Minchurra There are macros in the drone regions? This is certainly breaking news. I'm waiting to hear confirmation that there are non macros in the drone regions. Until I see some firm evidence of no-macro activity in this space, I reserve the right to be extremely sceptical. Just because some macros choose to engage in player-like activity such as occasionally speaking in cryllic in local is no proof at all that an actual human is behind the character. Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Daisuke Aoki Gallente Independent Coalition OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.18 09:49:00 - [19] Edited by: Daisuke Aoki on 18/08/2010 09:50:26 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Minchurra There are macros in the drone regions? This is certainly breaking news. I'm waiting to hear confirmation that there are non macros in the drone regions. Until I see some firm evidence of no-macro activity in this space, I reserve the right to be extremely sceptical. Just because some macros choose to engage in player-like activity such as occasionally speaking in cryllic in local is no proof at all that an actual human is behind the character. Only real people in the drone regions are the NC forces in Cobalt Edge (okay, it's an exaggeration, but still, there's tons of macroers.)
oil Double-L	Posted - 2010.08.18 10:34:00 - [20] i had business dealings with syndicates operating out of the drone regions. they can provide easyly hundresds of billions worth of drone** per day. that represents many thousands of manhours every single day. instead of pumping 10 developers into this dust and incarna **e they could have invested in 10 investigators to root that out. there must be meaqns to find the bots if ccp wants it with their database acces. problem weeding oout macros is contra to ccp making money.
Hroya Gallente TerraNovae	Posted - 2010.08.18 10:48:00 - [21] When you put features in a game that requeres you to look at the same ice rock for hours on end to fuell a pos or have npc ships spawn at specific location/order with the same scrips ( dmg type etc ) you are bound to get macro behaviour in a game. Once you planned on changing the sov mechanics you could PR an unholy rage campaign since quite some ice macroers suddenly became not so usefull anymore. Randomise the belt rats in terms of dmg types and severety plus some nicely added sleeper AI and you will see less of these macro ratters with their excuror logi behind them. Also increase the yield dramaticly from icemining. It isnt a fun thing to do for active players and would sweep the usefullness of macro iceminers from under their feet. Adding content that becomes a routine or prolonged static activity will only increase the size of macro activities. ------------------------------- We are not all in the same box. -------------------------------
Hari Markkus Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2010.08.18 11:27:00 - [22] Originally by: oil weeding oout macros is contra to ccp making money. Maybe in the short term, but if Eve gets a reputation for being a cheaters paradise then it will put people off from joining.
CopyCatz Caldari Brewery Research Ltd Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.08.18 11:38:00 - [23] Originally by: Malcanis I'm waiting to hear confirmation that there are non macros in the drone regions. Ditto. It saddens me that when I clonejump back to our old home in Etherium Reach, there's 20 2 month olds in local who abruptly all dock instantly without me even leaving the station...
Nathan Jameson	Posted - 2010.08.18 11:53:00 - [24] Originally by: CopyCatz Ditto. It saddens me that when I clonejump back to our old home in Etherium Reach, there's 20 2 month olds in local who abruptly all dock instantly without me even leaving the station... Then...leave your account on all day when you go out to work. OMG, I'm a genius!!!
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.08.18 12:15:00 - [25] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 18/08/2010 12:16:11 The sad part is that when someone invents a Monkeysphere, these very same guys IMMEDIATELY disassemble EvE's client and in a day they inform CCP about the exploit used by the former. But of course, they N E V E R move a finger to do the same for the bots. It clearly shows who are the macros lords in this game and who pushes for them. At the same time, CCP shows little commitment at eradicating the phenomenon, one Unholy Rage per decade ain't cutting it, it reeks of empty PR, just to say "see, we did something". - Make mining interactive. How hard it can be to spawn belts in deadspace pockets or to require ever changing actions to do the job? - Make rats do something smarter than being sitting ducks. - PI too could be more... lively tbh. It sucks to have to compete with algorythms who will out-effort, out-everything anything human and be viable despite margins shrinking below what human players would consider worthwhile to work for. "Hey John, wanna try this "EUROPEAN GAME OF THE YEAR winner", where whatever you do, a bot will do more and more profitably than you?" - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 14:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 18/08/2010 12:16:11 The sad part is that when someone invents a Monkeysphere, these very same guys IMMEDIATELY disassemble EvE's client and in a day they inform CCP about the exploit used by the former. But of course, they N E V E R move a finger to do the same for the bots. It clearly shows who are the macros lords in this game and who pushes for them. At the same time, CCP shows little commitment at eradicating the phenomenon, one Unholy Rage per decade ain't cutting it, it reeks of empty PR, just to say "see, we did something". - Make mining interactive. How hard it can be to spawn belts in deadspace pockets or to require ever changing actions to do the job? - Make rats do something smarter than being sitting ducks. - PI too could be more... lively tbh. It sucks to have to compete with algorythms who will out-effort, out-everything anything human and be viable despite margins shrinking below what human players would consider worthwhile to work for. "Hey John, wanna try this "EUROPEAN GAME OF THE YEAR winner", where whatever you do, a bot will do more and more profitably than you?" this + why not put in a delay for local?, theyd actually have to check scanner at least :-). no really, i mean when u jump in, youself get a delay whats in the system, but also the one that is in system doesnt see you immidiately. anyone in to sign this idea i mean people in wormhole space are used to it too, 0.0 is a dangerous place, i think most inhabitants would cope with that, no?
Juizerdude Caldari Aces -N- Eights	Posted - 2010.08.18 14:16:00 - [27] eve mail me if info wanted lots of kills just look me up on battleclinic and u can see there fits info is 5-10 mil per person but u are guranted at least 4 ravens kills every 2 hours Get Pwned!
Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 14:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Juizerdude eve mail me if info wanted lots of kills just look me up on battleclinic and u can see there fits info is 5-10 mil per person but u are guranted at least 4 ravens kills every 2 hours thats the dude !! hmm, wonder if i should open a new thread on suggestions forum for the delay in local. What u guys think about a delay for local, like 10 seconds?
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.08.18 15:34:00 - [29] I support the OPs call for more people to come to Drone Regions to kill macros. Macros don't shoot back or smack in local, so your experience is sure to be enjoyable and economical! Who could ask for more? There seems to be a higher concentration of macros all around the 1A8 system. Don't forget to stop by at DEATH PRIME for some tea and biscuits (or ice cold vodka, if you prefer)! ...
Shizo Lang Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.18 15:39:00 - [30] Edited by: **o Lang on 18/08/2010 15:39:03 Originally by: Razin I support the OPs call for more people to come to Drone Regions to kill macros. Macros don't shoot back or smack in local, so your experience is sure to be enjoyable and economical! Who could ask for more? There seems to be a higher concentration of macros all around the 1A8 system. Don't forget to stop by at DEATH PRIME for some tea and biscuits (or ice cold vodka, if you prefer)! i will definatly stop by later today as i am loging off and on in ur space anyways :-), thx for the invitation , goin to bring some Purple Haze tho

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