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HerFirefly	Posted - 2010.08.19 07:01:00 - [1] I'd say mine was definitely getting trapped in null sec. My CEO at the time mouthed off to the alliance. Then he proceeded to destroy two haulers full of alliance materials. The alliance kicked our corps out and told the entire coalition to fire on site. I had to sit in station for 3 days waiting to quit my corp and find a new one. The Insane Pen! http://theinsanepen.blogspot.com/
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.08.19 08:13:00 - [2] Mine was joining a razor fleet and have everyone brown nose the FC, im all for ass kissing but some people make it too obvious -- Recruitment now open!!
Vernn Miller Caldari Volition Cult	Posted - 2010.08.19 08:18:00 - [3] Was two or three months old into EVE and undocked in Y-MPWL (lolprovi) into a xdeathx hac gang that had the station bubbled. Rigged drake went down (rigs were expensive at that time) and so did my pod with +4 implants . Being a newbie meant cash was always not enough so I was like . Good times! Looking at it now that sort of thing happens quite often and I don`t get THAT gutted when it happens .
Sazuka Kirr Caldari Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2010.08.19 08:37:00 - [4] I've had a lot of bad experiences in my time, but looking back on them and realising that this is just a game, they don't seem so ... well ... bad. Picking out the 'worst' ... mmm ... I guess it would be quite recent. A friend of mine kept bugging me to resub my accounts and I kept saying no. Then, finally, I gave in and resubbed one, started playing EVE and then resubbed the second. About 3 weeks later, my friend noticed I had scored a few kills in-game and asked how the 'sale' was going: "What 'sale'?" I asked. "I thought you were selling your accounts so I could buy myself a Hel." "No," I responded. "[insert generic emorage]" He hasn't spoken to me since and seems to have left EVE as well. This was a real life friend, I should add. Someone I'd known for over 10 years!
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 08:47:00 - [5] Reading that CCP more or less abandons EVE for 18 months Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.19 08:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Reading that CCP more or less abandons EVE for 18 months which is wrong, stop being an out of date troll. My worst moment was getting a gila blown up in a level 3 mission because i fell asleep. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Anddeh McNab Matari Department of Gun Control	Posted - 2010.08.19 08:59:00 - [7] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Reading that CCP more or less abandons EVE for 18 months And we're hitting the shots early this morning... My worst experience in EVE was when I first played on a trial account; few days in and I'd finished buying up the bits for a shiney new Rifter. Unfortunately the last piece was in Amamamamammamake and there was (I assume) a pirate gang lurking on the station when I undocked. Boom boom :(
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.19 09:24:00 - [8] The last 24 hour downtime, before that the 24 hour downtime before that one Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 09:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Darek Castigatus Originally by: Louis deGuerre Reading that CCP more or less abandons EVE for 18 months which is wrong, stop being an out of date troll. It's right, and I'll keep spanking them for it. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.08.19 09:50:00 - [10] Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 19/08/2010 09:51:54 Having to haul a large deathstar POS setup to my first 0.0 home system from another 0.0 system that was 6 jumps away in my blockade runner. Since I was the only one to have a cov ops transport ship in my corp and I was the CEO, I "took one for the team" and dedicated my whole play time to hauling the damn thing for a week. Much later I found out that the alliance that was holding space there (Sylph) had a jump bridge in that station system leading next door to my system, but they didn't let us use it while we were moving in. I so wanted to shoot them all, but found out that Sylph was nothing more than a bunch of inactive alts and Ushra'Khan spies at that moment. A couple of months later Sylph disbanded. But, following the "Always look at the bright side of life" that POS looked like this.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 10:32:00 - [11] Didn't put a 30 day skill when a patch came out... Stop whining.
Minchurra Caldari Feudum Chalybis The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.08.19 10:34:00 - [12] Setting up posses, its less of a specific event but just hatred in general. I envy how the logistics people manage to set up and maintain a chain of hundreds of posses <3.
Firkragg Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.08.19 10:37:00 - [13] Originally by: Sazuka Kirr I've had a lot of bad experiences in my time, but looking back on them and realising that this is just a game, they don't seem so ... well ... bad. Picking out the 'worst' ... mmm ... I guess it would be quite recent. A friend of mine kept bugging me to resub my accounts and I kept saying no. Then, finally, I gave in and resubbed one, started playing EVE and then resubbed the second. About 3 weeks later, my friend noticed I had scored a few kills in-game and asked how the 'sale' was going: "What 'sale'?" I asked. "I thought you were selling your accounts so I could buy myself a Hel." "No," I responded. "[insert generic emorage]" He hasn't spoken to me since and seems to have left EVE as well. This was a real life friend, I should add. Someone I'd known for over 10 years! True friends dont let friends buy Hels. On topic id have to say that my worst experience was seeing an alliance i had been part of for a while collapse around me. Failure cascades are never particularly fun.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerilla Gorilla	Posted - 2010.08.19 10:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 19/08/2010 09:51:54 Having to haul a large deathstar POS setup to my first 0.0 home system from another 0.0 system that was 6 jumps away in my blockade runner. Since I was the only one to have a cov ops transport ship in my corp and I was the CEO, I "took one for the team" and dedicated my whole play time to hauling the damn thing for a week. Much later I found out that the alliance that was holding space there (Sylph) had a jump bridge in that station system leading next door to my system, but they didn't let us use it while we were moving in. I so wanted to shoot them all, but found out that Sylph was nothing more than a bunch of inactive alts and Ushra'Khan spies at that moment. A couple of months later Sylph disbanded. But, following the "Always look at the bright side of life" that POS looked like this. nice _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
MSC Darklord Minmatar Shadow Company	Posted - 2010.08.19 11:20:00 - [15] First time in 0.0, have ATUK camp slam torps into my omen and getting insta podded due to splash damage from torps and losing a set of +3 implants. __________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers. Said after a 60 second shut down notice that was then canceled.
Aera Aiana Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.19 11:28:00 - [16] I'd say the UI is the worst experience in EVE. There should be a global ban on nested context menus:) -
Hari Markkus Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2010.08.19 12:05:00 - [17] Reading the thread "Quarterly Economic Newsletter Q2-2010 PVP curious number..." on this very forum. I could feel my brain seeping out of my ears.
Tiima Tuscan	Posted - 2010.08.19 12:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Darek Castigatus Originally by: Louis deGuerre Reading that CCP more or less abandons EVE for 18 months which is wrong, stop being an out of date troll. It's right, and I'll keep spanking them for it. After reading the entirety of that dev blog I still cannot see where you're coming from. Would you mind actually confirming your argument with quotes etc. that show that CCP have abandoned Eve for 18 months?
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 13:35:00 - [19] Originally by: Tiima Tuscan After reading the entirety of that dev blog I still cannot see where you're coming from. Would you mind actually confirming your argument with quotes etc. that show that CCP have abandoned Eve for 18 months? If you insist. Some gems from the last CSM minutes : It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features. CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features. The CSM suggested a dedicated 'polish team' to be established, with players being informed as to what they intend to work on during each expansion. CCP¦s answer to that is that there will be no polish patrol team for the next 2-3 expansions even though players feel there should be. CCP stated that FW is not a priority and no FW-related changes will be considered until after Incarna and Dust. A specific Low Sec expansion is not on the 18 month plan The winter expansion will focus on polish of existing features, mainly planetary interaction, and preparation for coming expansions. The aim is to include new character modeling, which involves new technology and new artwork. CSM remained unconvinced of CCPs commitment to excellence, even after Nathan's arguments were heard. CSM firmly stated its belief that CCP is on the wrong track in directing their development power into new things that the players have no faith in while acknowledging that the old things need attention. Regarding the 'damage control' Dev Blog : Thinly disguised team working on stuff for another MMO : Incarna (9 teams, approximately 70 developers) Stuff I couldn't care less about : Dust 514/EVE link (1 team, approximately 7 developers) EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail Total : 87 devs working on useless crap vs REAL EVE stuff In-space features (3 teams, approximately 22 developers) The others! (4 teams, approximately 15 developers) Total : 37 devs working on EVE proper I've read every blog since then and the (few remaining) devs working on EVE do fine work. But nowhere does CCP say they will allocate more resources to EVE. If more than half your devs are working on Sims X, Farmville Y and COD Z instead of your core business, i.e. EVE I call abandonment a fair description. It's CCP's money so they can do what they want with it. But I paid it, so I feel justified in expressing my opinion on how they use it. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Cuchulain Spartan	Posted - 2010.08.19 13:47:00 - [20] Got podded will drunk, updated my clone straight away but picked a cheap model clone by mistake then got podded an hour later haha. Few days later I couldnt figure out why my I couldnt fly my Golem, oh ya, BS 5 was gone lol I was a cranky fella that day
BrundleMeth Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2010.08.19 14:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Louis deGuerre It's CCP's money so they can do what they want with it. Exactly Quote: But I paid it, so I feel justified in expressing my opinion on how they use it. Completely irrelevent. It's their money now and opinions are meaningless to them. Kind of like I work for my company and they pay me but just try to let the company "give me their opinion" on how I should spend it. Pure idiocy...
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 14:19:00 - [22] Originally by: BrundleMeth Kind of like I work for my company and they pay me but just try to let the company "give me their opinion" on how I should spend it. Pure idiocy... Kinda like you pay taxes and you don't care how your government spends it...you're the idiot, my good sir. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
My Postman	Posted - 2010.08.19 14:24:00 - [23] Losing an Ishtar against a Catalyst, because my GF was mad, and pulled the power off my pc, causing a heavy "disconnect".
Captain Muscles Caldari Clan Farthammer	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:03:00 - [24] Originally by: My Postman Losing an Ishtar against a Catalyst, because my GF was mad, and pulled the power off my pc, causing a heavy "disconnect". Do you miss her? ____________________ Captain Muscles sez:
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Tiima Tuscan After reading the entirety of that dev blog I still cannot see where you're coming from. Would you mind actually confirming your argument with quotes etc. that show that CCP have abandoned Eve for 18 months? If you insist. Some gems from the last CSM minutes : It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features. CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features. The CSM suggested a dedicated 'polish team' to be established, with players being informed as to what they intend to work on during each expansion. CCP¦s answer to that is that there will be no polish patrol team for the next 2-3 expansions even though players feel there should be. CCP stated that FW is not a priority and no FW-related changes will be considered until after Incarna and Dust. A specific Low Sec expansion is not on the 18 month plan The winter expansion will focus on polish of existing features, mainly planetary interaction, and preparation for coming expansions. The aim is to include new character modeling, which involves new technology and new artwork. CSM remained unconvinced of CCPs commitment to excellence, even after Nathan's arguments were heard. CSM firmly stated its belief that CCP is on the wrong track in directing their development power into new things that the players have no faith in while acknowledging that the old things need attention. Regarding the 'damage control' Dev Blog : Thinly disguised team working on stuff for another MMO : Incarna (9 teams, approximately 70 developers) Stuff I couldn't care less about : Dust 514/EVE link (1 team, approximately 7 developers) EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail Total : 87 devs working on useless crap vs REAL EVE stuff In-space features (3 teams, approximately 22 developers) The others! (4 teams, approximately 15 developers) Total : 37 devs working on EVE proper I've read every blog since then and the (few remaining) devs working on EVE do fine work. But nowhere does CCP say they will allocate more resources to EVE. If more than half your devs are working on Sims X, Farmville Y and COD Z instead of your core business, i.e. EVE I call abandonment a fair description. It's CCP's money so they can do what they want with it. But I paid it, so I feel justified in expressing my opinion on how they use it. Then I guess im fully justified in calling your opinion selfish and moronic then arent I. By the way I bolded the part where you really start talking utter *******s. A full third of your dev staff does not = abandonment even on a major project like EVE. CCP have never said that EVE would be the only project they ever worked on and god forbid they should acutally try to expand their own market share by developing new concepts and making a game for a platform they dont currently gain anything from. The fact that you dont care about it doesnt magically make it a bad thing for EVE, nor does it make it a bad business decision for CCP. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Darek Castigatus Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Tiima Tuscan After reading the entirety of that dev blog I still cannot see where you're coming from. Would you mind actually confirming your argument with quotes etc. that show that CCP have abandoned Eve for 18 months? If you insist. Some gems from the last CSM minutes : It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features. CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features. The CSM suggested a dedicated 'polish team' to be established, with players being informed as to what they intend to work on during each expansion. CCP¦s answer to that is that there will be no polish patrol team for the next 2-3 expansions even though players feel there should be. CCP stated that FW is not a priority and no FW-related changes will be considered until after Incarna and Dust. A specific Low Sec expansion is not on the 18 month plan The winter expansion will focus on polish of existing features, mainly planetary interaction, and preparation for coming expansions. The aim is to include new character modeling, which involves new technology and new artwork. CSM remained unconvinced of CCPs commitment to excellence, even after Nathan's arguments were heard. CSM firmly stated its belief that CCP is on the wrong track in directing their development power into new things that the players have no faith in while acknowledging that the old things need attention. Regarding the 'damage control' Dev Blog : Thinly disguised team working on stuff for another MMO : Incarna (9 teams, approximately 70 developers) Stuff I couldn't care less about : Dust 514/EVE link (1 team, approximately 7 developers) EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail Total : 87 devs working on useless crap vs REAL EVE stuff In-space features (3 teams, approximately 22 developers) The others! (4 teams, approximately 15 developers) Total : 37 devs working on EVE proper I've read every blog since then and the (few remaining) devs working on EVE do fine work. But nowhere does CCP say they will allocate more resources to EVE. If more than half your devs are working on Sims X, Farmville Y and COD Z instead of your core business, i.e. EVE I call abandonment a fair description. It's CCP's money so they can do what they want with it. But I paid it, so I feel justified in expressing my opinion on how they use it. Then I guess im fully justified in calling your opinion selfish and moronic then arent I. By the way I bolded the part where you really start talking utter *******s. A full third of your dev staff does not = abandonment even on a major project like EVE. CCP have never said that EVE would be the only project they ever worked on and god forbid they should acutally try to expand their own market share by developing new concepts and making a game for a platform they dont currently gain anything from. The fact that you dont care about it doesnt magically make it a bad thing for EVE, nor does it make it a bad business decision for CCP. Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this.
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:24:00 - [27] I bought 2 cargo expander 2's for 600mil :( Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:51:00 - [28] jumped titan into fight. black screened...no more titan. thanks ccp for great game. -- "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -John Wooden
fab24 Gallente Tax Fraud Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:52:00 - [29] I talked with CCP staff.
Manivald Kostaja	Posted - 2010.08.19 15:54:00 - [30] Edited by: Manivald Kostaja on 19/08/2010 15:55:28 When I paid goonswarm joining flee 800m with isk that I borrowed from my friend and lost a fully hardwired and implanted pve clone in the process.
Bluefix Gnu Terror Corps	Posted - 2010.08.19 16:11:00 - [31] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. I disagree with CCP's prioritizing, but that wont change that you're just trolling.
Camino Archer	Posted - 2010.08.19 16:26:00 - [32] Probably my first pod loss....Joining a corp was pretty painfull to. (I like to do my own thing so its not really thier fault).
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 16:54:00 - [33] Originally by: Bluefix Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. I disagree with CCP's prioritizing, but that wont change that you're just trolling. Nope, she's just saving me the trouble of posting that exact response. Regarding the thread, question asked, question answered. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Sisohiv	Posted - 2010.08.19 17:13:00 - [34] Leaving EvE for 4 months, coming back to find out all my assets are in stations I cant dock at. Knowing I will never see that stuff again.
Luru Parz Dark Guard Corp	Posted - 2010.08.19 17:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Louis deGuerre EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail That quote was a joke, unless of course you think using web developers to fix lag is a good idea.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 17:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Luru Parz Originally by: Louis deGuerre EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail That quote was a joke, unless of course you think using web developers to fix lag is a good idea. And I get accused of trolling ? I'm a programmer myself so I realized that. But many people will have seen it as been kicked while they're down. Hence the Epic Damage Control Fail. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Brusanan Beware of Carp General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.19 18:17:00 - [37] Originally by: BrundleMeth Completely irrelevent. It's their money now and opinions are meaningless to them. You've got to be trolling. CCP offers a service, and if their customers aren't happy with the service, they stop paying. Our opinions on the current and future state of Eve are very important to them. ______
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 19:09:00 - [38] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. Wow, so you're saying that the reason CCP is able to "get away with things like this" is because of the people who actually play and enjoy the game? That's a shocking revelation! Thanks for your input and vise-like grip on the blatantly obvious. All those quotes from dev blogs pretty much prove that they are, in fact, focusing alot of attention on EVE. But you can continue to ignore all the things they're doing so it fits in with the victim thing you've all got going on, that's cool. If you want to criticize them for not contacting you specifically and asking what you want them to work on, then go ahead, but welcome to the real world - the one that doesn't revolve around you. ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that...
White Lubricant	Posted - 2010.08.19 19:14:00 - [39] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. "Fanbois" are usually the people enjoying the game, something which you are probably not doing. What is your angle with this? Is it meant as an insult or sth? If you are not enjoying the game then why do you pay CCP for it? There's no "cool" way of being cynical here- you are really just stating hat you are wasting your time/money on an MMORPG and don't even have fun doing it. Congratulations on your awesome achievement.
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.08.19 19:26:00 - [40] Originally by: White Lubricant Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. "Fanbois" are usually the people enjoying the game, something which you are probably not doing. What is your angle with this? Is it meant as an insult or sth? If you are not enjoying the game then why do you pay CCP for it? There's no "cool" way of being cynical here- you are really just stating hat you are wasting your time/money on an MMORPG and don't even have fun doing it. Congratulations on your awesome achievement. All I'm saying is that if the "fanbois" didn't have such blind faith in CCP, and love their game no matter what CCP do, perhaps CCP would be concerned that they might just lose money when people start cancelling accounts, and devote more resources to adding more "polished quality". Which they currently are refusing to do for 18 months I don't pay CCP for the game anyway, I made lots of isk back when I did enjoy EVE and now I just pay with PLEX, train skills, and wait for things to get better. There are so many glaring problems in the game - lag, rockets, lag, angel ships, aggro exploits, lag, blaster ships, etc... it puzzles me as to why anyone could be content with CCP barely touching on these things amonst a billion useless new features. But of course they know they're safe because everyone will keep paying, especially with the PLEX system meaning that people who would stop playing like myself will keep playing, and other people will pay for them and CCP will still get the income.
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 19:51:00 - [41] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Originally by: White Lubricant Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. "Fanbois" are usually the people enjoying the game, something which you are probably not doing. What is your angle with this? Is it meant as an insult or sth? If you are not enjoying the game then why do you pay CCP for it? There's no "cool" way of being cynical here- you are really just stating hat you are wasting your time/money on an MMORPG and don't even have fun doing it. Congratulations on your awesome achievement. All I'm saying is that if the "fanbois" didn't have such blind faith in CCP, and love their game no matter what CCP do, perhaps CCP would be concerned that they might just lose money when people start cancelling accounts, and devote more resources to adding more "polished quality". Which they currently are refusing to do for 18 months I don't pay CCP for the game anyway, I made lots of isk back when I did enjoy EVE and now I just pay with PLEX, train skills, and wait for things to get better. There are so many glaring problems in the game - lag, rockets, lag, angel ships, aggro exploits, lag, blaster ships, etc... it puzzles me as to why anyone could be content with CCP barely touching on these things amonst a billion useless new features. But of course they know they're safe because everyone will keep paying, especially with the PLEX system meaning that people who would stop playing like myself will keep playing, and other people will pay for them and CCP will still get the income. Ever think that the "fanbois" continue to support CCP b/c they actually like the game and the direction it's going? It seems like, in your head, everyone hates the current game, but fanbois ignore it and are still supporting CCP b/c they're slavering idiots, and you're super discriminating and smart and know "the truth". Get over yourself. If there was some game-breaking problem or they didn't like where the game was heading, then the fanbois would stop being fanbois. ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that...
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.08.19 19:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Amanda Mor everyone hates the current game, but fanbois ignore it and are still supporting CCP b/c they're slavering idiots, and you're super discriminating and smart and know "the truth". Quoting you for emphasis. I couldnt agree more.
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:01:00 - [43] Edited by: omgfreemoniez on 19/08/2010 20:01:31 Originally by: Amanda Mor Originally by: omgfreemoniez Originally by: White Lubricant Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. "Fanbois" are usually the people enjoying the game, something which you are probably not doing. What is your angle with this? Is it meant as an insult or sth? If you are not enjoying the game then why do you pay CCP for it? There's no "cool" way of being cynical here- you are really just stating hat you are wasting your time/money on an MMORPG and don't even have fun doing it. Congratulations on your awesome achievement. All I'm saying is that if the "fanbois" didn't have such blind faith in CCP, and love their game no matter what CCP do, perhaps CCP would be concerned that they might just lose money when people start cancelling accounts, and devote more resources to adding more "polished quality". Which they currently are refusing to do for 18 months I don't pay CCP for the game anyway, I made lots of isk back when I did enjoy EVE and now I just pay with PLEX, train skills, and wait for things to get better. There are so many glaring problems in the game - lag, rockets, lag, angel ships, aggro exploits, lag, blaster ships, etc... it puzzles me as to why anyone could be content with CCP barely touching on these things amonst a billion useless new features. But of course they know they're safe because everyone will keep paying, especially with the PLEX system meaning that people who would stop playing like myself will keep playing, and other people will pay for them and CCP will still get the income. Ever think that the "fanbois" continue to support CCP b/c they actually like the game and the direction it's going? It seems like, in your head, everyone hates the current game, but fanbois ignore it and are still supporting CCP b/c they're slavering idiots, and you're super discriminating and smart and know "the truth". Get over yourself. If there was some game-breaking problem or they didn't like where the game was heading, then the fanbois would stop being fanbois. you LIKE CCP developing pointless things like PI which are just "quantity over quality"? you LIKE lag even in small engagements? And total unplayability in large ones? you LIKE unbalanced ships? you'd rather be able to walk around in stations or play a generic FPS than have those things (and lots more besides) fixed? To me that seems messed up but hey it's your mind, who am I to judge?
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:02:00 - [44] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 19/08/2010 20:02:33 Reading this thread, and watching it continue to decline. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:10:00 - [45] Edited by: Darek Castigatus on 19/08/2010 20:15:41 Originally by: Amanda Mor Originally by: omgfreemoniez Originally by: White Lubricant Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. "Fanbois" are usually the people enjoying the game, something which you are probably not doing. What is your angle with this? Is it meant as an insult or sth? If you are not enjoying the game then why do you pay CCP for it? There's no "cool" way of being cynical here- you are really just stating hat you are wasting your time/money on an MMORPG and don't even have fun doing it. Congratulations on your awesome achievement. All I'm saying is that if the "fanbois" didn't have such blind faith in CCP, and love their game no matter what CCP do, perhaps CCP would be concerned that they might just lose money when people start cancelling accounts, and devote more resources to adding more "polished quality". Which they currently are refusing to do for 18 months I don't pay CCP for the game anyway, I made lots of isk back when I did enjoy EVE and now I just pay with PLEX, train skills, and wait for things to get better. There are so many glaring problems in the game - lag, rockets, lag, angel ships, aggro exploits, lag, blaster ships, etc... it puzzles me as to why anyone could be content with CCP barely touching on these things amonst a billion useless new features. But of course they know they're safe because everyone will keep paying, especially with the PLEX system meaning that people who would stop playing like myself will keep playing, and other people will pay for them and CCP will still get the income. Ever think that the "fanbois" continue to support CCP b/c they actually like the game and the direction it's going? It seems like, in your head, everyone hates the current game, but fanbois ignore it and are still supporting CCP b/c they're slavering idiots, and you're super discriminating and smart and know "the truth". Get over yourself. If there was some game-breaking problem or they didn't like where the game was heading, then the fanbois would stop being fanbois. ^ this. I'll be mad as hell if theres a legitimate reason for me to be, I just dont think there is. I know CCP arent infallible and do make bad decisions, CCPs communication with the fanbase after the CSM minutes release was absolutely shocking for example, but I also appreciate the fact they took the time to show us exactly what they've done so far and what they will be doing in the future. And since you asked, yes I like the ideas behind PI and i think with a bit of refinement it will be a good addition to the multitude of careers eve offers, yes i like the developement of DUST,it seems a sensible direction for CCP to expand the IP and maybe i might play it sometime in the future. Finally yes I like the fact CCP continues to expand the ways to interact with the eve universe through INCARNA, even if it is something i probably wont use that much. The simple fact is as Amanda says, I play the game because I enjoy it and the day I stop enjoying it is the day I stop playing. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Kyle Sucks Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:18:00 - [46] Second page of this thread. Worst experience in eve.
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:20:00 - [47] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Ever think that the "fanbois" continue to support CCP b/c they actually like the game and the direction it's going? It seems like, in your head, everyone hates the current game, but fanbois ignore it and are still supporting CCP b/c they're slavering idiots, and you're super discriminating and smart and know "the truth". Get over yourself. If there was some game-breaking problem or they didn't like where the game was heading, then the fanbois would stop being fanbois. you LIKE CCP developing pointless things like PI which are just "quantity over quality"? you LIKE lag even in small engagements? And total unplayability in large ones? you LIKE unbalanced ships? you'd rather be able to walk around in stations or play a generic FPS than have those things (and lots more besides) fixed? To me that seems messed up but hey it's your mind, who am I to judge? The attitude you have here is entirely typical of everyone whining currently - try to understand that the game doesn't exist simply to please YOU. I don't do any of the planetary interaction stuff, or mining - these things are useless to me. However (realizing that the game doesn't revolve around me), if CCP wants to spend time developing those areas of the game then that's fine by me, b/c I know there are people out there who do like those things. It adds to the overall quality of the game. Same thing with DUST - I likely won't play it b/c I'm not buying a console for one game, but I think it's pretty cool that they're developing a game on another platform that directly ties in with EVE. In short, yes I do like them to spend resources on PI and other things that don't directly affect me. I haven't experienced terrible lag, and nor has, I would venture a guess, a majority of the player base, b/c I don't do 500 man blobs in 0.0. I do, however, play in various small engagements and have still not experienced game breaking lag. The lag thing is over rated unless you're in 0.0 (which a majority of the players aren't). Unbalanced ships? Really, that's a complaint you have? There's hundreds of ships in the game, it's next to impossible to make each one useful. BTW, just cause someone likes the game doesn't mean they like every part of it or think it's perfect - there's a few things I'd like to have fixed, but none of them are all that important to me. TL;DR yes, I would prefer they develop new content that doesn't even affect me, b/c I don't see any huge problems with the game as it is now. If you prefer, wait 18 months or whatever, I'll send you an evemail when the game is perfect. ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that...
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:42:00 - [48] Originally by: Amanda Mor TL;DR yes, I would prefer they develop new content that doesn't even affect me, b/c I don't see any huge problems with the game as it is now. If you prefer, wait 18 months or whatever, I'll send you an evemail when the game is perfect. You need to understand that the game doesn't exist simply to please YOU. Just because YOU don't see any huge problems, doesn't mean there aren't huge problems for other people. To ignore those problems means you are either selfish or ignorant. Sure CCP will get more new subscriptions than they lose old ones by addings loads of half-assed new features instead of fixing what's broken - it may be profitable for them, but it's not really fair on the people whose playstyles are being ruined by CCP's greed. Except you probably don't care because you are a selfish bastard.
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:53:00 - [49] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Originally by: Amanda Mor TL;DR yes, I would prefer they develop new content that doesn't even affect me, b/c I don't see any huge problems with the game as it is now. If you prefer, wait 18 months or whatever, I'll send you an evemail when the game is perfect. You need to understand that the game doesn't exist simply to please YOU. Just because YOU don't see any huge problems, doesn't mean there aren't huge problems for other people. To ignore those problems means you are either selfish or ignorant. Sure CCP will get more new subscriptions than they lose old ones by addings loads of half-assed new features instead of fixing what's broken - it may be profitable for them, but it's not really fair on the people whose playstyles are being ruined by CCP's greed. Except you probably don't care because you are a selfish bastard. Wow, way to completely ignore everything I've said, and then make a lame attempt to turn it around and say "I know you are but what am I? Neener neener!!" I should have realized that you're only 12 years old. ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that...
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.19 20:59:00 - [50] Originally by: omgfreemoniez You need to understand that the game doesn't exist simply to please YOU. Just because YOU don't see any huge problems, doesn't mean there aren't huge problems for other people. To ignore those problems means you are either selfish or ignorant. Sure CCP will get more new subscriptions than they lose old ones by addings loads of half-assed new features instead of fixing what's broken - it may be profitable for them, but it's not really fair on the people whose playstyles are being ruined by CCP's greed. Except you probably don't care because you are a selfish bastard. This. I was considering posting something more in support of omgfreemoniez, but she seems to be doing fine on her own Anyway, CCP won't change their business strategy so no need to get all uppity and excited when someone dislikes it. If only there was another spaceship MMO out there to give them some competition, then they might actually take their customers wishes into account. Alas. You mistake me when you think I hate the game. I love the game. That's why I'm upset that it's being left to wither away in the rush for more isk. The game is great but it could be so much more. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.08.19 21:19:00 - [51] SO...Who wants cookies? Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Clan Blacklight Inc., Fleet Defense Command
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 21:32:00 - [52] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Anyway, CCP won't change their business strategy so no need to get all uppity and excited when someone dislikes it. If only there was another spaceship MMO out there to give them some competition, then they might actually take their customers wishes into account. Alas. You mistake me when you think I hate the game. I love the game. That's why I'm upset that it's being left to wither away in the rush for more isk. The game is great but it could be so much more. I agree that the game can be so much more - like a completely open-ended space simulation where you aren't limited to just flying in a ship, but can play on planets and in stations as well. I wish CCP would work on that... ---------------------------------------------- I don't have an alt, but there's a main that would be upset if he heard me say that...
Eelis Kiy Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2010.08.19 22:28:00 - [53] Watching so called friends ***, stir, moan and talk ** behind ones back when all you've ever tried to do was help em out. Game mechanics are fine, but some of the people are first class a-holes ----------------------------- >>where the frack is my ship?<<
David Grogan Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.19 23:06:00 - [54] Edited by: David Grogan on 19/08/2010 23:08:28 Originally by: HerFirefly I'd say mine was definitely getting trapped in null sec. My CEO at the time mouthed off to the alliance. Then he proceeded to destroy two haulers full of alliance materials. The alliance kicked our corps out and told the entire coalition to fire on site. I had to sit in station for 3 days waiting to quit my corp and find a new one. why not just type in local "my ceo is a f#'ktard" then blow his/her ship up -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- but as a ceo i also told a bunch of ppl they was f'/ktards.......... i was right too... within hours of me pulling my corp out another 2 corps followed suit... dividing the alliance by half........ using a fleet of alliance members in caps under the guise of rescuing a super cap just to free a crappy bs is not on. SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P
My Postman	Posted - 2010.08.20 09:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Captain Muscles Originally by: My Postman Losing an Ishtar against a Catalyst, because my GF was mad, and pulled the power off my pc, causing a heavy "disconnect". Do you miss her? After punishing her for two days by not paying real attention to her, she realized she did something REALLY BAD. But girls do know ways to let you forget and forgive, you know?
Mr M Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2010.08.20 12:00:00 - [56] Worst part of Eve, reading the whining from a couple of 100 people on the forum who can't understand that there's a couple of 100,000 players who do enjoy the game. Eve Tribune\|EVEgeek\|Firebrand Radio
kurg	Posted - 2010.08.20 12:13:00 - [57] These Forums, full of Natural Selection!
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2010.08.20 18:39:00 - [58] My worst was when I was a newer player running level 4 missions. I didn't fully appreciate the importance of killing scrambling frigs in level 4s. Needless to say I lost my raven with newly purchased caldari navy bcus. I then couldn't even recover the loot because I hadn't trained bcs and couldn't afford another BS. So when I went in to recover the loot I would just get killed. I was pretty distraught. I have of course later gone through what would be objectively much worse than that in eve. But the impact at the time was pretty bad. BTW I wrote that CCP abandons eve thread. And although reading the minutes from csm was pretty bad I wasn't as upset as that day I lost that raven and bcus. Eve is right up there with chess as far as best games ever. So although I wish ccp would work on it more, at least they aren't making it worse either. Plus although I am not interested in Incarna I do recognize there was a hole in the game that did need to be filled. I was just sort of hoping they would put a like 5 devs on it and make some decent looking animations. Instead they decided that they are going whole hog with it. ItÆs not what I want as a player but I can respect that view. If youÆre going to do something, do it well. -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Pytria Le'Danness	Posted - 2010.08.20 21:01:00 - [59] My worst EVE experience? Faction Warfare. I had joined the Gallente side immediately and when the Caldari were invading en masse I tried to defend the systems against them. I saw my corp falter around me and still forced myself to log on, scan down some plexes and orbit a beacon for 10-20 minutes each morning - I promised myself I'd do something fun in the evening when I returned from work. Of course then usually even more systems had been contested and I went for even more beacon orbiting. PvP fights were far and rare (and FAIR ones almost non-existant, I was usually out-blobbed or out-jammed). Scan. Orbit beacon. Scan. Orbit beacon. I almost quit EVE over this (actually idled for a few months) until I decided to say "Frak you, faction warfare".
Lady Aja Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.20 21:46:00 - [60] being wrongfuly accused of petitioning an account as the originaal owner. ended up loosing a "friend" over it. urg thrash, quit smoking pot it majkes you paranoid, if i was after you i would have got you long b4 now.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.08.20 23:18:00 - [61] Losing a ship to a bug. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Rpeg Minmatar Rosa Castellum	Posted - 2010.08.20 23:37:00 - [62] The "Racism in Eve (the "N" word)" forum thread. -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.08.20 23:49:00 - [63] Living in the NC was probably the least fun i've had in EVE. Napfleets and hac roams 80 jumps away to avoid ruffling blue feathers was absolutely obnoxious. Ofc, anyone who wanted to war with someone interesting immidiately felt the wrath of the drama llamas who spent 23 hours a day running sanctums and *****ing into intel channels about how the lone cloaker scared them awawy from all the isk they were making.
Mark Foley Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.08.21 00:44:00 - [64] Warp to zero implemented.
Mark Foley Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.08.21 00:45:00 - [65] New capital jump animation.
Mark Foley Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.08.21 00:46:00 - [66] ECM Nerf.
Mark Foley Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.08.21 00:47:00 - [67] Removal of TII Lottery.
Mark Foley Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.08.21 00:48:00 - [68] No wait, forget what I said. When appearance became more important to CCP than functionality and playability.
Sajad	Posted - 2010.08.21 01:26:00 - [69] Playing it.
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.21 03:04:00 - [70] Seeing Mark Foleys' posts above
Sajad	Posted - 2010.08.21 03:09:00 - [71] Seeing CCP Oveur's manboobs.
LudwigvonMises	Posted - 2010.08.21 03:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Psychotic Maniac jumped titan into fight. black screened...no more titan. thanks ccp for great game. killboard link or it didn't happen.
Laedy Bi-Polar Bears	Posted - 2010.08.22 07:53:00 - [73] I got podded by a smartbombing Hyperion today, in my High Grade slave set. All up nearly a 3 bil loss. I'd say that was one of my worst experience so far My EVE blog http://laedyinred.blogspot.com/
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.08.22 08:24:00 - [74] Not really "worst", as this is a part of EVE too, but probably the most humiliating one. I went for this or that reason somewhere in a shuttle, Rens to Jita I think. I found I can cut my route by some 10 jumps by going through lowsec. Lowsec has no bubbles, so I should be pretty safe, right? Well about halfway through the journey someone in a battleship with smartbombs proved me otherwise. Well, there goes a +4 clone... I don't know if I was half asleep or only half awake or what, but I decided to immediately take the same route again in a pod. Without even thinking about updating my clone. I still have Weapons Upgrades IV and Advanced Weapon Upgrades IV. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real!
ThrashPower Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.22 09:52:00 - [75] having to moan on the forums for a couple of months to get tourney prizes, it was not fun
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerilla Gorilla	Posted - 2010.08.22 10:24:00 - [76] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Tiima Tuscan After reading the entirety of that dev blog I still cannot see where you're coming from. Would you mind actually confirming your argument with quotes etc. that show that CCP have abandoned Eve for 18 months? If you insist. Some gems from the last CSM minutes : It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features. CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features. The CSM suggested a dedicated 'polish team' to be established, with players being informed as to what they intend to work on during each expansion. CCP¦s answer to that is that there will be no polish patrol team for the next 2-3 expansions even though players feel there should be. CCP stated that FW is not a priority and no FW-related changes will be considered until after Incarna and Dust. A specific Low Sec expansion is not on the 18 month plan The winter expansion will focus on polish of existing features, mainly planetary interaction, and preparation for coming expansions. The aim is to include new character modeling, which involves new technology and new artwork. CSM remained unconvinced of CCPs commitment to excellence, even after Nathan's arguments were heard. CSM firmly stated its belief that CCP is on the wrong track in directing their development power into new things that the players have no faith in while acknowledging that the old things need attention. Regarding the 'damage control' Dev Blog : Thinly disguised team working on stuff for another MMO : Incarna (9 teams, approximately 70 developers) Stuff I couldn't care less about : Dust 514/EVE link (1 team, approximately 7 developers) EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail Total : 87 devs working on useless crap vs REAL EVE stuff In-space features (3 teams, approximately 22 developers) The others! (4 teams, approximately 15 developers) Total : 37 devs working on EVE proper I've read every blog since then and the (few remaining) devs working on EVE do fine work. But nowhere does CCP say they will allocate more resources to EVE. If more than half your devs are working on Sims X, Farmville Y and COD Z instead of your core business, i.e. EVE I call abandonment a fair description. It's CCP's money so they can do what they want with it. But I paid it, so I feel justified in expressing my opinion on how they use it. that was one swifft kick in the balls _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Tarasina	Posted - 2010.08.22 12:05:00 - [77] Lost a dramiel. Thanks to blackscreen. LOGS SHOW NOTHING! Thanks, CCP. Like it's MY fault YOUR pos-game blackscreens. I knew I was followed to a station but then trying to undock...blackscreen and death. I would say ****poor customer service.
will munny	Posted - 2010.08.22 13:07:00 - [78] Originally by: Mark Foley No wait, forget what I said. When appearance became more important to CCP than functionality and playability. Oh yes.
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.22 13:39:00 - [79] Edited by: JC Anderson on 22/08/2010 13:39:53 Originally by: Goremageddon Box that was one swifft kick in the balls While I agree with you on the annoyance factor there is one thing I wanted to point out, "EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail Shocked" That part was actually a joke taken out of context. That team is a web development team and having put them on fixing fleet lag would have resulted in some nasty side effects... Seeing as they don't actually have any experience in that sort of development/code. That part made me flinch when I first read it as well until I read further info on it and the statement was clarified as a joke.
Minchurra Caldari Feudum Chalybis The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.08.22 13:45:00 - [80] Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 22/08/2010 13:39:53 Originally by: Goremageddon Box that was one swifft kick in the balls While I agree with you on the annoyance factor there is one thing I wanted to point out, "EVE Gate (1 team, approximately 10 developers) I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it - Epic Damage Control Fail Shocked" That part was actually a joke taken out of context. That team is a web development team and having put them on fixing fleet lag would have resulted in some nasty side effects... Seeing as they don't actually have any experience in that sort of development/code. That part made me flinch when I first read it as well until I read further info on it and the statement was clarified as a joke. Given the situation it was a pretty tasteless joke, that most people would have took at face value (especially given the "**** ccp" mindset that was rife at the time). The first time I read it I saw "I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it," I had to read it twice to see they were web developers.
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.22 13:52:00 - [81] Edited by: JC Anderson on 22/08/2010 13:53:59 Originally by: Minchurra Given the situation it was a pretty tasteless joke, that most people would have took at face value (especially given the "**** ccp" mindset that was rife at the time. Oh trust me.. I completely agree with that considering when it was stated. It would be one thing if everything was golden with no issues. But another thing entirely under these circumstances.
Tanthalassa	Posted - 2010.08.22 14:06:00 - [82] Edited by: Tanthalassa on 22/08/2010 14:07:55 The worst experience in Eve? I'd say losing my 1st ship ever :) Yeah, it seems to be really funny now that I look at it. Basically I knew very little, since I just started. I still kind of ignore missile skills because of that. At least in comparison to my gunnery skills they are pretty much ignored. In short: I am given a nice shiny Breacher and it took me ages to compile some ôkick-assö fit for it. Then I fly into a lvl1 mission and start targeting things and shooting, w/o realizing that my rockets do not reach anything (didnÆt know anything about missile mechanics involving flight time, etc), so I just aggroed whole room which proceeded to pummel my fail-fitted death machine Breacher, lol Hell, that was quite a blow to self-esteem, well, after playing games where one doesn't lose anything upon ôdeathö that is.. Now, I just have to comment on the whiny part that some people never fail, or should I say - they do fail to restrict themselves from plugging it in every bloody hole on the forums, whenever they seem to get the urge to vent and moan. Yes, ôexperience in Eveö thread doesn't really qualify for that. Saying that, I'll admit that it made me reply in the end, and all I have to say is: 1)People should be glad that CPP as a developer still supports the game running Eve cluster in the 1st place. How many small niche games like this exist anyways? If one takes in account how many alt accounts exist in Eve û how many people play realistically? And CPP still finds it worth it. 2)Old and well-established players basically can pay with Plex provided by newcomers who decide to give Eve a shot. New expansions will bring in new people (ôoh noes û wowplayers are comingö next argument I hear). Dust, Incarna û whichever, those will bring new people to this stagnant pool of ôhardcoreö old-timers, and some may actually cheer and say ôyay, fresh meat, hooray for cannon fodder.ö Then if Dust is a console only, it still may interest the console players in Eve itself. 3)So-called ôunnecessaryö shinies (i.e. Incarna)à ThatÆs very subjective in the very first place. Hmm, I think walking in stations going to beat the crap out of spinning ships in your dock, don't you think? Plus nobody knows what released version going to bring into the game, but people still love to judge based on FW and then they toss unresolved lag and other issues on top. In the end û eye candy is another way to bring new people, and to keep people playing. Other companies release new games while abandoning older projects pretty much, but they profit from sales of new products or expansions, etc. Before I get labeled as a fanboi, I'd like to mention that I have plenty of issues with the game myself, yet I try to look at things realistically. Basically, whatever service you get for your monthly fee (that is if you even pay anything now û if you are an OK player - it is a free game pretty much. Why the obvious should even be stated?) is way less than what CPP probably spends to maintain it after this many years. Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: BrundleMeth Kind of like I work for my company and they pay me but just try to let the company "give me their opinion" on how I should spend it. Pure idiocy... Kinda like you pay taxes and you don't care how your government spends it...you're the idiot, my good sir. Which makes you an idiot to believe that your opinion matters again - government really cares to ask you how to spend the taxes, amirite?
Revillion Pryde	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:09:00 - [83] Would have to go with asking my youngest to keep on eye on the retriever as the wife wanted to to relocate a wall hanging...and to repair the previous installation damage! Now it wasn't his fault for responding to the theft of ore....as I told him if it's red shoot it - he took it for granted to shoot the ore thief too....unfortunately. Lost my 4year old Erin for that... loved that module
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:21:00 - [84] Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 22/08/2010 15:21:08 Originally by: Tanthalassa Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: BrundleMeth Kind of like I work for my company and they pay me but just try to let the company "give me their opinion" on how I should spend it. Pure idiocy... Kinda like you pay taxes and you don't care how your government spends it...you're the idiot, my good sir. Which makes you an idiot to believe that your opinion matters again - government really cares to ask you how to spend the taxes, amirite? You don't like how they spend it ? Vote them out of office. You don't like the game no more ? Cancel your account. Of course, the analogy might be a bit too complicated for your *****ed brain... Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this!* Clear Skies - The Movie
General Morters Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:51:00 - [85] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Of course, the analogy might be a bit too complicated for your ******ed brain... Well, it's too complicated for me too, care to enlighten me? The only similarity I see is that your voice alone won't be heard in both cases. Which enforces mr. Tanthalassa's point. Anyhow, maybe it would be nice to get back on topic, it's funny how most threads turn into OMG FIX LAG whinefests My worst experience was losing my first Ferox to a single BS gate camp. Had it fitted with heat sinks and whatnot, everything I could find I put on my beloved Ferox. I loaned the money for the ship from a friend, took me long enough running L2's in my caracal to pay him back and buy myself a new one, only to find that flying an unrigged Ferox with my skillset at that time into a L3 wasn't such a great plan .
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:54:00 - [86] Originally by: ThrashPower having to moan on the forums for a couple of months to get tourney prizes, it was not fun Ever think you were just wasting your time moaning, and got the prize when you were going to regardless? My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.22 16:14:00 - [87] Originally by: General Morters Well, it's too complicated for me too, care to enlighten me? Neh, I'm bored with it already. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Helldrek Demonstar Pod Liberation Authority	Posted - 2010.08.22 16:50:00 - [88] Falcon.
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.22 17:04:00 - [89] Edited by: JC Anderson on 22/08/2010 17:04:17 Originally by: General Morters Originally by: Louis deGuerre Of course, the analogy might be a bit too complicated for your ******ed brain... Well, it's too complicated for me too, care to enlighten me? The only similarity I see is that your voice alone won't be heard in both cases. Which enforces mr. Tanthalassa's point. Anyhow, maybe it would be nice to get back on topic, it's funny how most threads turn into OMG FIX LAG whinefests My worst experience was losing my first Ferox to a single BS gate camp. Had it fitted with heat sinks and whatnot, everything I could find I put on my beloved Ferox. I loaned the money for the ship from a friend, took me long enough running L2's in my caracal to pay him back and buy myself a new one, only to find that flying an unrigged Ferox with my skillset at that time into a L3 wasn't such a great plan . Oh man now you've brought back a memory of nearly an identical situation that happened to me on my first Ferox with an alt. Right down to having bought it with loaned ISK. ;) And before anybody asks why I was flying a Ferox instead of a Drake -- Well drakes didn't even exist then. And besides I actually liked the Ferox. ;)
General Morters Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.22 17:08:00 - [90] Originally by: JC Anderson Edited by: JC Anderson on 22/08/2010 17:04:17 Originally by: General Morters Originally by: Louis deGuerre Of course, the analogy might be a bit too complicated for your ******ed brain... Well, it's too complicated for me too, care to enlighten me? The only similarity I see is that your voice alone won't be heard in both cases. Which enforces mr. Tanthalassa's point. Anyhow, maybe it would be nice to get back on topic, it's funny how most threads turn into OMG FIX LAG whinefests My worst experience was losing my first Ferox to a single BS gate camp. Had it fitted with heat sinks and whatnot, everything I could find I put on my beloved Ferox. I loaned the money for the ship from a friend, took me long enough running L2's in my caracal to pay him back and buy myself a new one, only to find that flying an unrigged Ferox with my skillset at that time into a L3 wasn't such a great plan . Oh man now you've brought back a memory of nearly an identical situation that happened to me on my first Ferox with an alt. Right down to having bought it with loaned ISK. ;) And before anybody asks why I was flying a Ferox instead of a Drake -- Well drakes didn't even exist then. And besides I actually liked the Ferox. ;) Well Drakes already existed when this happened to me, I just didn't know Drakes were better ... Plus the Ferox did look better. I still fly the pimped up version (Nighthawk).
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.22 18:29:00 - [91] Feroxes are great. Lovely big tank that does either passive or active well and can be fit to match whatever weapons you feel like using for respectable dps. All that and its cheap as chips to boot. Only problem i find with it is it can be a bit slow but thats nothing major. May not be absolute top of the class in terms of performance but the overall package is still very impressive. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Washukanni	Posted - 2010.08.22 18:34:00 - [92] Client locking up when 1 person jumps into the system (npc 0.0) I was missioning in resulting in lost ship Lucky it was just an incursus
Tanthalassa	Posted - 2010.08.22 22:04:00 - [93] Edited by: Tanthalassa on 22/08/2010 22:05:12 Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Tanthalassa Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: BrundleMeth Kind of like I work for my company and they pay me but just try to let the company "give me their opinion" on how I should spend it. Pure idiocy... Which makes you an idiot to believe that your opinion matters again - government really cares to ask you how to spend the taxes, amirite? You don't like how they spend it ? Vote them out of office. You don't like the game no more ? Cancel your account. Of course, the analogy might be a bit too complicated for your ******ed brain... Before you bother spewing some more bs - make sure to find better analogy, because you seem to not understand very basic thing - since when voting someone out of the office changes a darn thing? I am not aware what country you are from, but it's not different in any of 'em, at least in regards to most things. And when it comes to voting again you get to pick the "lesser evil" out of a few available again. In the end whatever you pick you end up with that short end of the stick. Only because you get same thing with a different face or a different name. Since you cannot really vote for another developer (basing this on the analogy you provided) to implement/work on the things you'd like - tough luck for you. About canceling the game - I like it far more than dislike, as a matter of fact I dislike very few things in it in its current state, probably just because what I do in the game in general. Which is probably similar to so many people finding the gameplay still enjoyable. But judging by the amount of whining you provided in this post - feel free to leave
RentableMuffin	Posted - 2010.08.22 22:56:00 - [94] Originally by: omgfreemoniez Fanbois like you are the reason CCP knows they can get away with things like this. you know some people actually want incarna
T0KER	Posted - 2010.08.22 23:47:00 - [95] The Planetary Interaction UI Seriously, whoever designed the UI for PI should be fired, along with whoever signed off on it being complete. I have never seen a game have such an outcry of hate for a UI element. Second would be when I first started playing and discovered Local chat makes pvp boring and easily avoidable.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.22 23:51:00 - [96] Originally by: Tanthalassa Whining yawn Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie

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