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Barbara Nichole
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:44:00 -
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wait you forgot the best part of the story!
Then the "little" miner noticed that the big bad ganker hypocrit with many alts had sooo many passive income flows that he didn't need to do much work at all to make many hundreds of millions more an hour than the "little" miner and in complete safety - leaving him way too much boring time on his hands which the ganker used to take advantage of improvements in all combat ships to gank and gank and gank with ease. The "little" miner knew that mining vessels had not had a single modification to their power/survival since they were released, allowing the combat ships to unfairly become unbalanced against them in the extreme.
The "little" miner had no representation on the CSM so he did the only ting left to him; he voiced his concerns on the forums... to which the angry and hypocritical ganker posted, "you mad bro, you might as well bio-scrap your sorry character and go play ::insert name of childs game here::" The hypocritical ganker made a point of flaunting every advantage they gained over time with the assistance of their representation on the CSM.. claiming to live on "little" miner tears even though everyone knew that a diet of tears was completely unheatlhy even for gankers.
Finally, the big bad ganker so over played his hand that it became obvious to all who looked on that the "little" miner was being unfairly treated.. most of his freinds had left the game and the eve population had shrunk due to the fact that nearly 70% of the population of eve had been made up or "little" miners.
The fairy stepped in to balance the unfairness the best she could, reducing the hypocritical gankers passive income a little and giving the "little" miner an overdue balance in ship design... The hypocritical ganker cried big elephant tears for weeks and made up stories casting miners in a negative light in order to try to win a nerf for he and all the other hypocritical gankers and others like the nerfherders and and the smack-griefers.
Somewhere in her magic castle, the fairy isn't even finished casting her spell and already the crying ganker is complaining bitterly in his maudlin sobbing madness. How will it end..? The ganker, being a vindictive sort will plan and plot his revenge as the hot tears run down his dirty face.. but we'll have to see what happens next.
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Barbara Nichole
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Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:49:00 -
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creative.. wrong and twisted but creative.
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Barbara Nichole
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Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:10:00 -
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Sarik Olecar wrote:I think the biggest problem with this argument is the assumption that mining profits will plummet and be bots will run rampant. The truth is though that hulkaggeddons impact on the mineral market is negligible - even more so since everyone got bored of it....)
this!
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Barbara Nichole
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Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:13:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Sarik Olecar wrote:I think the biggest problem with this argument is the assumption that mining profits will plummet and be bots will run rampant. The truth is though that hulkaggeddons impact on the mineral market is negligible - even more so since everyone got bored of it. Max yield isn't increasing so the only thing that might drive prices down is more people deciding they wanna start mining. Ganking just effects too few people to really be a factor, whether bot or human. so since hulkageddon is irrelevant why should mining barges have their HP buffed?
It called rebalance. using this logic maybe cruisers, frigs and destroyers should have their armor reduced instead?
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:42:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:Yes. His proposed solution is counter-productive. So risk free, high profit is best for the game?
ask the goons.. they should know since that's how they profit.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:45:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Yesterday in Sirseshin, several times. a tornado is a pretty expensive way to kill a hulk it seems that you're angry because hulks are able to die in hisec???????
but not unfairly expensive..considering the price of the target. Belly up to the bar if you want to drink otherwise move on.
An untanked T1 battle crusier will have nearly double the tank of an untanked T2 hulk... seems fine to me.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:54:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Then the answer is the same your ilk has always given to everybody else: adapt or quit. yeah but at least your mining bots can operate in peace :shobon:
strawman: you know mining bots are against the EULA.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:05:00 -
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Danny Diamonds wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Danny Diamonds wrote:I am just guessing here, but I am willing to bet they chose this route to avoid "Creative" use of said Exhumers. Giving them more slots to fit a tank or more yield may have other implications (using one for tackle?). Just a guess, nothing more. hint: they don't need more mids to fit a better tank, just a slight bump in CPU and some grid. True for the Hulk, but not all of the Exhumers. One of the goals of the re-balance is to make ships within a group all have a well-defined role. Just adding some grid and cpu to all of them would not solve their lack of individual roles.
...and space training out better..while giving them continued value as a character progresses.
the lowest yield exhumers will have better tanks.. the T2 hulks wiht the best yields will change a little in tanking but still have about as much tank as a T1 battlecrusier.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:15:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:The efforts against bots come in the form of banning bots. Also it's entirely possible and probable that a number of non-botting players will take advantage of these changes. Despite their presence, bot are a non issue in this argument. even though many of the hypocrites in this thread want local removed from nullsec because of bots lmao
what?! what are you pretending now? I want local removed in null sec because it should never be used as free intel against the cloaked.. this has nothing what so ever to do with bots, the use of which is against the rules. There are some who shout about AFK cloakers (as if they are problems).. that wouldn't be people who want local removed.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:29:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:and the issue isn't even bots, it's further enabling AFK mining
 afk mining is not against the EULA nor is it a big problem.. if a miner goes afk in space he is not safe and he is not making isk - even after this change. AFK miners are typically absent for about 2 to 3 minutes at the longest and usually are not even gone from their keyboards. The thing that causes me to take my attention from the game the most is my kids.. usually not long enough to miss a cycle.. sorry if that is somehow disturbing to you.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:36:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Why are you one of those terribles who fit a plate in their shield tanked Drake or Raven lows? nah, reinforced bulkheads! hull tank ftw  Get rid of speed/agility penalties and I'll start flying exclusively gallente *show his Elite Hull tanking Certificate* o/
lol, I had heard real men structure tank... if I was a man that's what I would do 
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:54:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:+1% PG Hardwiring, missile skills up to 5 and if you add the right command ship increases dps above this. If you use the other one then it's 5% shield resists p/lvl thus increasing tank. Again I can see it from here in those KB's yeah tell me all about that command ship that increases DPS in any form hint: there isn't one there is, however, a very big command ship that increases mining yield two of them, in fact
what you don't get a fleet ewar, tanking - passive or active, or logi rep, speed, dps range, or sig size alteration boost from your command ship? you got robbed...
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.26 21:01:00 -
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Amber Katelo wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:The current situation is such that even the mining barge designed to be weak and flimsy... Speaking lore-wise, wouldn't the natural response to increased occurrence of ganking be to update the ship to "today's needs"? IRL, car makers are tending to build higher mileage cars because they are wanted by the consumer or required by law. In WWII, fighter planes got buffed to handle circumstances or advances in technology, and not just with fitting changes (post-manufacturing additions). Why not Eve ships?
good point and absolutetly true.. the fact is that they've just brought mining ships more in line with other ship tech in the game.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.30 14:22:00 -
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Sort of disapointed in ccp for reducing the hulk shield back another 500.. the way it was it didn't even have as much EHP as a T1 battlecrusier... not it's less than half... for a T2 cruiser of any type this seem short sighted.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.30 14:28:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Smohq Anmirorz wrote:I keep seeing comments about how fast this thread has grown. It is only because of comment #60. I saw that and knew right away this was the forum storm of the year.
From comment #60:
"Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable" CCP Soundwave
If you shout at the top of your lungs, you might hear yourself over the incredibly loud discussion going on here. soundwave can say anything he wants to try to put some fluff around the fact that they're screwing the risk/reward balance of the game for the n+1st time i'm really not sure if he's trying to convince us or himself when he says "well you'll still be able to shoot people in hisec so it's still risky to be there even though we're doing everything we can to discourage it heh!"
hogwash, this change was long overdue.. and the risk for reward has been out of wack in the favor of combat null sec for too long .. concidering especially that for years we've been hearing from the same people crying now that high sec is not safe, then they proved it.. So when can we expect that reward nerf to be lifted? never ? Well then the new improvement to barges seems very fair.
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