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Cromo Effect Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.21 07:04:00 - [1] TL;DR Change T2 BPO from unlimited runs to 1000 so they eventually phase out of the game. Currently owners of T2 BPO's control the T2 market. Inventors have no change of competing with them due to a poor design by CCP on introducing T2. What was done is done. My main is heavy into invention and I own some T2 BPO's. After a lot of research on invention vs. the T2 BPO's it all comes down to the equivalent of the T2 BPO's being nothing but an ISK printing press. Invention has many gambles and risk compared to the T2 BPO having absolutely zero at all. Sure as an owner I would be greatly upset by losing my printing press but it is for the best. My proposal is that all T2 BPO's be changed from unlimited runs to 1000 runs. This puts an expiration date on them but still gives them great value for now. Yes I know that the module BPO's would run out first but they are not as valuable as the ship BPO's which rightfully so should be the way of things. Us T2 BPO owners have been able to have our cake and eat it too for long enough. It is time to fix this broken mechanic. Also, for those of you saying that inventing can easily compete with T2 BPO owners are lying your ass off hard core and you know it so stop the bull****.
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.08.21 07:05:00 - [2] [Issue]: Oh god not this ** again Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always** to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Cromo Effect	Posted - 2010.08.21 07:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Malcanis [Issue]: Oh god not this **** again Yes this again Mr. I know everything there is about this game so please just echo whatever I write so I feel like some leet God amongst the rest of you pathetic players. Well, its what you sound like to be honest. Anyways, it is for the best of the game, not for the best for a T2 BPO owner. Just try to thing about what is best for the game and not is what is best for just you for a change.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.21 07:21:00 - [4] Edited by: Stick Cult on 21/08/2010 07:21:33 Quote: Also, for those of you saying that inventing can easily compete with T2 BPO owners are lying your ass off hard core and you know it so stop the bull**. No, I don't know it. Invention is pretty profitable in most items, and for the other items, DON'T INVENT THEM THEN! Also, changing them to 1000 run BPCs will suck for drones, and still last forever for battleships. Your proposal sucks. Yes, I do invention. edit: and I can easily make 50% profit on the items I invent, I see nothing wrong here. Stop poasting. Originally by:** CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Cromo Effect Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.21 07:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Stick Cult Yes, I do invention. edit: and I can easily make 50% profit on the items I invent, I see nothing wrong here. Stop poasting. 50% ehh? BPO owners make 100% profit because they invest zero ISK into having something to make the T2 item. There are a ton of items that no one bothers to invent because it is not worth it. Why invest into an item when you will always and I mean always be easily undercut by a T2 BPO owner. CCP introduced invention because the T2 BPO lottery was fail. It is time they finished the job. As an experienced inventor and holder of several T2 BPO's ranging from ammo, to modules to ships, I know for a fact it is time to get rid of them.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.08.21 08:22:00 - [6]
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.21 08:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Cromo Effect Originally by: Stick Cult Yes, I do invention. edit: and I can easily make 50% profit on the items I invent, I see nothing wrong here. Stop poasting. 50% ehh? BPO owners make 100% profit because they invest zero ISK into having something to make the T2 item. There are a ton of items that no one bothers to invent because it is not worth it. Why invest into an item when you will always and I mean always be easily undercut by a T2 BPO owner. Yea 50%, and if some are unprofitable, then don't invent them, there are plenty of other things to invent. It's really that simple. I'd also say a good number of BPO owners also bought their BPOs, which means they don't actually see a profit for more than a couple YEARS. Yea, the original holders are making 100% profit, but I really don't care. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.08.21 08:56:00 - [8] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 21/08/2010 09:07:38 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 21/08/2010 09:03:14 Edited by: Drake Draconis on 21/08/2010 09:01:56 Cromo's History of Stupid Ideas: 1: You fly freighters without escort into lowsec/0.0 space and then blame the superacarriers that hot dropped on your shiny ass...made a post saying to remove them/nerf them. 2: You do mining ops without adequate escort....so you blame PVP'ers saying that they have too much power and should get nerfed just because your there. (lets be honest here really) Emo-rant on getting ganked Current Rant: 3: Now your *****ing about how hard it is to do Invention so what do you do? You blame the T2 BPO's. Now I ask you people.... is this the kind of guy we should even bother giving any amount of credence? What's next? Remove War-dec's because he can't do what he wants to do in high sec space? ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Cromo Effect Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.21 09:03:00 - [9] Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 21/08/2010 08:57:01 Cromo...seriously... STFU. You are full of ####...everyone knows it... you know it. You can't even play the game without making some sort of emo-rant about YOUR mistakes. Shall we revisit your last few experiences you shared with the community? Lets see... 1: You fly freighters without escort into lowsec/0.0 space and then blame the superacarriers that hot dropped on your shiny ass...made a post saying to remove them/nerf them. 2: You do mining ops without adequate escort....so you blame PVP'ers saying that they have too much power and should get nerfed just because your there. (lets be honest here really) 3: Now your *****ing about how hard it is to do Invention so what do you do? You blame the T2 BPO's. I'm quite sure there are more to share.... and I will be more than happy to constantly remind you each and every time you do one of your stupidly foolish bold typed face posts. Do you have any flipping idea how many T2 BPO's there are in the game? Did you even take into account the whole process involved in invention? Did you stop to wonder gee... maybe I should talk to someone who knows what the hell they are doing before I go post a proposal. Oh wait... that requires you to think now don't it. So please...do us a favor. Quit while your ahead.... that is if you even have one. <nudge nudge> Before you give yourself a brain spasm and really make us shake our heads in sheer marvel of your epic failness. PS: Paging Herschel and his famous Knockout T2 BPO Rant T2 BPO owner spotted. You make it so obvious. And as far as your lies above about me, well, they are just that. You twisting my words into something that you desperately cling to hoping it will help your fail argument turn into something people will agree with. So sorry, but once again you have failed miserably. Better luck next time troll.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.08.21 09:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 21/08/2010 09:05:50 Originally by: Cromo Effect Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 21/08/2010 08:57:01 Cromo...seriously... STFU. You are full of ####...everyone knows it... you know it. You can't even play the game without making some sort of emo-rant about YOUR mistakes. Shall we revisit your last few experiences you shared with the community? Lets see... 1: You fly freighters without escort into lowsec/0.0 space and then blame the superacarriers that hot dropped on your shiny ass...made a post saying to remove them/nerf them. 2: You do mining ops without adequate escort....so you blame PVP'ers saying that they have too much power and should get nerfed just because your there. (lets be honest here really) 3: Now your *****ing about how hard it is to do Invention so what do you do? You blame the T2 BPO's. I'm quite sure there are more to share.... and I will be more than happy to constantly remind you each and every time you do one of your stupidly foolish bold typed face posts. Do you have any flipping idea how many T2 BPO's there are in the game? Did you even take into account the whole process involved in invention? Did you stop to wonder gee... maybe I should talk to someone who knows what the hell they are doing before I go post a proposal. Oh wait... that requires you to think now don't it. So please...do us a favor. Quit while your ahead.... that is if you even have one. <nudge nudge> Before you give yourself a brain spasm and really make us shake our heads in sheer marvel of your epic failness. PS: Paging Herschel and his famous Knockout T2 BPO Rant T2 BPO owner spotted. You make it so obvious. And as far as your lies above about me, well, they are just that. You twisting my words into something that you desperately cling to hoping it will help your fail argument turn into something people will agree with. So sorry, but once again you have failed miserably. Better luck next time troll. If Owned one...I'd throw it away. (maybe keep it as a museum piece but seriously... its worthless... and that's just what I picked up from the professionals who do tech 2 inventions for a living and make a killing at it.) They are worthless. Wake up and smell the roses nooblet... your just not that bright. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Quantessa DRACONIAN COVENANT	Posted - 2010.08.21 11:26:00 - [11] I don't own one but there's really no need for this. Not supported.
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.08.21 11:35:00 - [12] I don't own any T2 BPO's when I first started it seemed crappy, that some players get/got to have them free but guess what many players got nothing and even more players sold their t2 bpo's to other players for billions/millions. It isn't fair I don't have multiple billions or trillions of isk, please convert all billions to millions and trillions to billions to make it fair. While we are at it I don't have a hundred million SP let's take away half of all characters with 50million sp or more, to make it fair, I can't compete with their sp totals. Also, for you saying that all t2 bpo's uber pwn invention is you lying your ass off hard core and you know it so stop the bull**** troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members.
Fournone	Posted - 2010.08.22 23:29:00 - [13] stop posting
Mr SmartGuy	Posted - 2010.08.23 01:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Fournone stop posting
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.23 01:28:00 - [15] Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Originally by: Fournone stop posting Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Maven Deltor	Posted - 2010.08.23 05:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Originally by: Fournone stop posting
devilsspawn Minmatar RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.23 08:08:00 - [17] *grabs some popcorn please continue..
FinnAgain Zero Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.23 09:10:00 - [18] No no no, post more. As long as you're allowed to spam the forum with Grade A Tard, I want to get as many laughs as possible. Can you do "cloaks are overpowered!" next, please? ------------------------------------------------ Hohohoho, Mister Finn, you're going to be Mister Finnagain!
Raa Jin	Posted - 2010.08.23 12:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Cromo Effect TL;DR Change T2 BPO from unlimited runs to 1000 so they eventually phase out of the game. Currently owners of T2 BPO's control the T2 market. Inventors have no change of competing with them due to a poor design by CCP on introducing T2. What was done is done. My main is heavy into invention and I own some T2 BPO's. After a lot of research on invention vs. the T2 BPO's it all comes down to the equivalent of the T2 BPO's being nothing but an ISK printing press. Invention has many gambles and risk compared to the T2 BPO having absolutely zero at all. Sure as an owner I would be greatly upset by losing my printing press but it is for the best. My proposal is that all T2 BPO's be changed from unlimited runs to 1000 runs. This puts an expiration date on them but still gives them great value for now. Yes I know that the module BPO's would run out first but they are not as valuable as the ship BPO's which rightfully so should be the way of things. Us T2 BPO owners have been able to have our cake and eat it too for long enough. It is time to fix this broken mechanic. Also, for those of you saying that inventing can easily compete with T2 BPO owners are lying your ass off hard core and you know it so stop the bull****. ohh dear god how wrong you are its not even funny anymore 1 i dont own any t2 bpos hell i havent even seen one however i do make my money off invention. WE control the market not the bpo owners. bpo owner makes 1 <insert module/ship/whatever> and can only ever make 1 at a time (1 bpo =1 run at a time) me I invent a ton of of bpcs and poof i can make 11 in the same time that mr bpo makes 1. I will give you that they have a larget profit margine per unit due to not having to invent but the money trickles in considerably slower than me. My proposal is let em keep there bpos they will eventualy die due to getting exploded in idiotic situations and people just unsubbing with them in there posetion. Why should once again people be penolised for playing this game for longer than you.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.23 17:40:00 - [20] Old players have enough of an advantage without this unfair mechanic. Or, offer procedure to create T2 BPOs with unlimited runs to everybody else.
FlameGlow Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.23 19:03:00 - [21] No, I like my T2 stuffs cheap. I'd support boosting invention to get improved base ME/PE though so inventors could effectively compete with BPO holders in stuff like T2 frigates Maybe do it through decryptor effects, all decryptors should give only positive effects and better bonuses(this is boosting exploration too)
Irongut Sex Money Guns	Posted - 2010.08.23 19:43:00 - [22] Originally by: Cromo Effect [b]50% ehh? BPO owners make 100% profit because they invest zero ISK into having something to make the T2 item. Invested 0 isk? I must have imagined the billions I spent on my T2 BPOs. Just leave it already.
Fournone	Posted - 2010.08.25 02:16:00 - [23] ban cromo thread support linked thread plz

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