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davet517 Caldari Raata Invicti Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.08.21 09:07:00 - [1] As previously reported on internal forums, Reckoning will reset standings at DT today toward anyone who has not been set blue in the last 72 hours. Contact us if you wish to maintain your current status. From all of Reckoning, I'd like to express our appreciation to Atlas and friends for the space to found our alliance, and the fun that was had. I'd also like to thank our Russian comrades for the competition that improved us over the months. Warning, shameless self-promotion follows: If you've flown with Reckoning before, and you or your corp are looking for a new home due to recent events, look us up. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out.
Artemis97 Caldari Resistance Project Ghost Syndicate.	Posted - 2010.08.21 11:07:00 - [2] What uh... what happened to your space, bro? Did those 4 moms and 15 carriers you were chest beating in the alliance over prove ineffective? It's always a sad day when people lose their sh!t...
Osric Wuscfrea Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.08.21 12:08:00 - [3] Where are you renting now, I am sure we have a few minutes to spare to pop by your new home... Dead-Fish, Deep Sea Daddies...
Trauli Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.08.21 14:13:00 - [4] Originally by: Reckoning. FU ATLAS HOW ARE YOU LOSING ALL YOUR SPACE NOW WE DON'T HAVE A HOME AND ALL OUR MEMBERS ARE LEAVING MAYBE IF YOU UNDOCKED ONCE TO HELP DEFEND OUR SPACE THEN MAYBE YOU WOULDNT BE DYING AND WE WOULD NOT BE SITTING IN JITA
Kephael Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.08.21 15:17:00 - [5] Originally by: davet517 As previously reported on internal forums, Reckoning will reset standings at DT today toward anyone who has not been set blue in the last 72 hours. Contact us if you wish to maintain your current status. From all of Reckoning, I'd like to express our appreciation to Atlas and friends for the space to found our alliance, and the fun that was had. I'd also like to thank our Russian comrades for the competition that improved us over the months. Warning, shameless self-promotion follows: If you've flown with Reckoning before, and you or your corp are looking for a new home due to recent events, look us up. Are you still paying Atlas rent for the systems Red Alliance took?
MonkSEALPup Caldari The Ankou Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.08.21 16:06:00 - [6] While it is true RECON was a renter alliance, it is a very well run alliance from a logistics and organizational standpoint. I am happy to see them getting out on their own and I wish them the best. Stain is a tough place to rebuild an alliance. Good luck guys! ------------------------------------------
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.08.21 16:46:00 - [7] Davet you've been in this game long enough to realise no one cares.
Fortiter Gallente Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.21 17:22:00 - [8] Originally by: MonkSEALPup Stain is a tough place to rebuild an alliance. Good luck guys! Yeah you are right. You guys should give them back their motherships you guys made off with to help them out
tomd741 Amarr The Minutemen The Militia	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:09:00 - [9] lol Reckoning. You guys tried to be "uber" with a 23% efficiency in pvp. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you go. Though to be fair you might not want to move to Stain. Being a carebear with nub teeth and all.
Nostradamous Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:11:00 - [10] Originally by: tomd741 lol Reckoning. You guys tried to be "uber" with a 23% efficiency in pvp. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you go. Though to be fair you might not want to move to Stain. Being a carebear with nub teeth and all. I cant be sure, but you seem unhappy. Convo Bobby Atlas, I hear hes great to just talk too.

omgdutch2005 Gallente Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:38:00 - [11] cheers, cu guys around orso :)
viod hawk Amarr B4D W0LF Legiunea ROmana	Posted - 2010.08.21 19:36:00 - [12] Edited by: viod hawk on 21/08/2010 19:44:49 Originally by: MonkSEALPup While it is true RECON was a renter alliance, it is a very well run alliance from a logistics and organizational standpoint. I am happy to see them getting out on their own and I wish them the best. Stain is a tough place to rebuild an alliance. Good luck guys! Monk , you're a decent guy , ... but seriously..... Don't let your good name get tarnished by affiliating with fail sauce bro
JackBlasta Minmatar P.A.N.I.C	Posted - 2010.08.21 22:17:00 - [13] Edited by: JackBlasta on 21/08/2010 22:17:42 Edited by: JackBlasta on 21/08/2010 22:17:04 Originally by: viod hawk Edited by: viod hawk on 21/08/2010 19:44:49 Originally by: MonkSEALPup While it is true RECON was a renter alliance, it is a very well run alliance from a logistics and organizational standpoint. I am happy to see them getting out on their own and I wish them the best. Stain is a tough place to rebuild an alliance. Good luck guys! Monk , you're a decent guy , ... but seriously..... Don't let your good name get tarnished by affiliating with fail sauce bro lol b4d wolf now part of LR in period basis, and now their former fail alliance they have a bone to pick with setting up shop next door in stain, this is gonna be epixxx :)
Azura Nester Caldari White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2010.08.21 23:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Artemis97 What uh... what happened to your space, bro? Did those 4 moms and 15 carriers you were chest beating in the alliance over prove ineffective? It's always a sad day when people lose their sh!t... nah man, the majority of those moms where stolen, and the carriers pilots left when the alliance leader placed the importance of one useless pilot over a 90 man corp that had most of those carriers in it. so needless to say, they dont exist anymore.
JackBlasta Minmatar P.A.N.I.C	Posted - 2010.08.22 00:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Azura Nester Originally by: Artemis97 What uh... what happened to your space, bro? Did those 4 moms and 15 carriers you were chest beating in the alliance over prove ineffective? It's always a sad day when people lose their sh!t... nah man, the majority of those moms where stolen, and the carriers pilots left when the alliance leader placed the importance of one useless pilot over a 90 man corp that had most of those carriers in it. so needless to say, they dont exist anymore. I assume Icarus' Wings is the corp you were referring to? Care to elaborate on what happened??
davet517 Caldari Raata Invicti Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.08.22 02:25:00 - [16] Edited by: davet517 on 22/08/2010 02:36:15 Wow, I feel like the janitor who has to sweep up the horse-** after a parade. Maybe a few facts would help: Viod Hawk's alliance just got absolutely **d by some mercs that camped us for a couple of weeks and ended up negative efficiency. True story. One Useless Pilot: 44 Kills in August. 90 Man Corp: 24 up to the point that I booted them. Nobody stole any super-carriers from our alliance. The guys who were given an exclusive, 0 tax, upgraded system that they did not pay for (and a generous amount of my isk) to grind for them in bailed out to the safety of IT Petdom before the ships could see combat. Sad, maybe, theft? Not really. Maybe they'll get used one day. We still have a good sized cap fleet and some supers. No, the 14 man corp who followed the 90 man corp did not have the majority of them. I will say though that they willingly jumped theirs into combat when called. Respect WSI. Anything I missed? Edit: It's not exactly true that those SCs never saw combat. We did go with a GC support fleet into Wicked Creek with them to reinforce some systems that Cursed had taken. They did miss the big fight, though. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out.
Fortiter Gallente Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 04:05:00 - [17] Originally by: davet517 One Useless Pilot: 44 Kills in August. 90 Man Corp: 24 up to the point that I booted them. You are a horrible FC and have to be in control of every alliance op. That is why our guys (and many others) did not join your fleets. Also, we left on our own. Originally by: davet517 Nobody stole any super-carriers from our alliance. The guys who were given an exclusive, 0 tax, upgraded system that they did not pay for (and a generous amount of my isk) to grind for them in bailed out Hmmm...
davet517 Caldari Raata Invicti Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.08.22 04:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Fortiter You are a horrible FC and have to be in control of every alliance op. That is why our guys (and many others) did not join your fleets. Also, we left on our own. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I guess, fact is though that I don't even FC the majority of our fleets. If I'm FCing, it's usually because there was nobody else available at the time. Originally by: Fortiter Hmmm... Let me help you out. The pilots who got those ships technically complied with the terms of the agreement that they made to get them. I may not like them re-forming their old corp and taking them elsewhere after they got them, but it's not stealing. I think it shows poor character to accuse folks of things unless you know what you're talking about. Don't you? Originally by: Fortitier Also, we left on our own. Please allow me to refresh your memory: I'd like to feed the drama llama, I really would, (NOT), but I don't have time. Icraus isn't performing up to Reckoning standards anyway, so just get out. You have until the weekend. I find out you've set any member of Reckoning red and you'll be kicked from the allliance immediately and you can fight your way out. XXXX has been a valued member of this alliance nearly from it's founding, and this is the first I've heard from anyone, at all, that there has been a problem with him. Since I don't have the time or inclination to deal with petty bull**, I feel pretty safe in assuming that the problem is with whichever of your members is whining. I will say that I logged n last night to find one of your members musing in local how he'll be glad when we're over-run by PL since we don't bubble the EUU<>Q3 gate. Told him to shut th ** up myself. Deesn't matter, just go. Quietly, preferred, but we'll be happy to shoot you if not. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out.
Mordri Minmatar B4D W0LF Legiunea ROmana	Posted - 2010.08.22 04:57:00 - [19] Dave your are the Horse SXXT that is being picked up. You love to try to kiss azz to get what you want, then you stab people in the back. We are extremely happy to see you moving in next door. Congrads on getting kicked out of Insmother. We will see how crappy Badwolf is at pvp..... Welcome to our lovely area !!
Fortiter Gallente Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 05:01:00 - [20] Yes you did send me that mail. But as anyone who know's you can attest, it is easy for you to talk **** in a chat, a mail, or on a forum but as soon as you are on comms with them you turtle up. After that mail, on vent you tried to make everything better wanting us to stay in the alliance, have your corp give us free ships, and have your buddy apologize to my whole corp.. Leave it to you to turn a simple standings reset thread into a Reckoning drama thread.

Fortiter Gallente Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 05:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Mordri Dave your are the Horse SXXT that is being picked up. You love to try to kiss azz to get what you want, then you stab people in the back. We are extremely happy to see you moving in next door. Congrads on getting kicked out of Insmother. We will see how crappy Badwolf is at pvp..... Welcome to our lovely area !! According to what Dave has been saying, Reckoning and Sys-k are gonna kick you out of Period Basis and Reckoning will have your stations. With no rent!
viod hawk Amarr B4D W0LF Legiunea ROmana	Posted - 2010.08.22 05:25:00 - [22] davet517 , elite pvper of doom http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=davet517
Brady Caldari Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 09:04:00 - [23] Edited by: Brady on 22/08/2010 09:10:48 Originally by: davet517 Edited by: davet517 on 22/08/2010 02:36:15 90 Man Corp: 24 up to the point that I booted them. Hello All. I don't normally comment on these forums as usually there is no reason too & I normally like to keep our ops nice and quiet. Icarus' left Reckoning on it's own accord. The reasons we left are; a.) Dave's attempts to repeatedly FC when not even present in the fleets (on occasion he was even in station! many jumps away!), b.) Dave always trying to overpower the fc (so we'd end up with multiple people calling orders in fleets, and no-one knowing who the f* the fc is....this doesn't work), c.) about a week before we left there was a call for "RR cloaking bs" d.) a certain 60 man Drake fleet that dave led into battle....all died..not a single kill.. Basically, being a part of Reckoning was becoming embarrassing. At the point where we left, I had stopped enforcing our pilots to fly in Reckoning fleets (how can I enforce flying with something like that!) Our eff was still better than the entire alliance, even though only about 5 of our pilots flew with them......... We did have a disagreement with Dave before we left, but we were going to leave anyway. Basically an alliance member had **ed off Icarus' so after Dave repeatedly refused to do anything about him, we set him red. A mail went out to alliance leaders stating we were asked to leave...the next day Dave was begging us to stay. We clicked the leave button. Dave..we left because we were already prepared to do so. you asked us to keep this quiet...we did...you brought this up. P.S. Dave...stop fc'ing...you're no good at it.
davet517 Caldari Raata Invicti Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.08.22 10:33:00 - [24] Brady, I think you need to take a look at your corp's performance vs. the performance of the rest of the alliance for the first two weeks of August. If your excuse is that you didn't like the FC, or my FCing in particular, cool, but I don't see how that kept you from undocking and doing some corp roams, at least. And, in case you didn't notice, I didn't bring any of this up, your buddy in WSI did. See, what happens sometimes, is folks like your buddy in WSI, and Viod Hawk get butt-hurt over getting the boot, and so feel the need to spew here regardless of the topic of the post, which is ok, but don't blame me for offering up my side of the story when they do. Your corp may be a fine corp, Brady. You and Fort seemed like decent guys to me. Frankly, I don't really know, because you never really showed up. Best of luck to you wherever you end up. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out.
LJB Gallente Dissonance Corp The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.08.22 10:52:00 - [25] Well Personally speaking, as being a former member of dave's alliance i must say im sorry to see it have to move on, dave for the most part is a good guy and i wouldnt want to wish him or the alliance any bad vibes. Good luck to what ever you guys move onto, at the end of the day no one realy knows what went on in one way or another and its dam hard keeping all that **** together. LJB DION CEO
Brady Caldari Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 10:54:00 - [26] We left..you didn't kick us Want me to dig out the chat logs where you asked us to stay and offered free ships etc? Our performance for the first two weeks of august was as I'd expect, as most of our pilots refused to fly with you. I showed up a few times. Every time I did the whole fleet died with no kills. How can a 80man fleet die with no kills? Until we joined Reckoning I wasn't even sure it was possible. Hopefully, see you on the battlefield soon(tm).
davet517 Caldari Raata Invicti Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.08.22 12:39:00 - [27] Edited by: davet517 on 22/08/2010 12:42:56 Originally by: Brady I showed up a few times. Every time I did the whole fleet died with no kills. How can a 80man fleet die with no kills? Until we joined Reckoning I wasn't even sure it was possible. Well, since you weren't there, (as usual) I can see how you'd be a little confused. It was a 120 man fleet. We lost about half of it. Some interesting things happened that day. A CTA was called, and we responded, and formed up the other residents. Showing up for a CTA is a foreign concept, I know, but it does happen sometimes. The folks who called the CTA didn't show up. We jumped in anyhow. Took some losses on the gate getting in. Hostiles had the PW to the POS that we were supposed to be defending. AAA (supposedly on our side) decided that they'd rather shoot at us than the hostiles. All kinds of screwed up that day. You wouldn't know. You weren't there. Quote: Hopefully, see you on the battlefield soon(tm). First time for everything, I guess. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out.
Brady Caldari Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 13:49:00 - [28] That's funny. Your killboard/ lossboard says I was there... http://www.eve-recon.net/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5959 Dave. My reply was not there for bickering purposes. It was to correct the lies you made. I'm not going to sit by and watch you lie to "big" yourself up. Especially if you are using Icarus' good reputation to do so. I'm not a great pvp person. Never pretend that I am. My job is to make sure tha lads have ships to fly in and targets to shoot at. Every now and then I take a break and get some shooting done.... I'm pretty good at what I do... For a non-pvper that never shows..check out battleclinic. My epeen be-eth much bigger than yours (in kills and ratio). Reckoning isn't a bad alliance either. It has its fair share of "special" people as do most alliances. However you have no pvper's... C'mon..RR cloaky bs...really?
davet517 Caldari Raata Invicti Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.08.22 14:53:00 - [29] Edited by: davet517 on 22/08/2010 14:55:34 Hey, what do you know, you were there for a fight. This is the one where a whole 80 man fleet died? Hmmm... Unfortunately, you missed days like this: http://www.eve-recon.net/kb/?a=home&m=7&y=2010&page=8 I was fail FCing that day. There are some Icarus on that page. Can you spot them? They were busy losing BCs trying to suicide gank in Amarr. BSes with cloaks on them to shoot hostile SBUs with super-cap blobs about. Not RR. We killed a few with those, and bombers, and a Nyx, and whatever we could get our hands on. We were doing what we could way outblobbed. YOur guys were largely absent. Excuse that away all you like. I'm proud of what we did with what we had. I don't think you can say the same. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out.
Karlen Velro Caldari Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:34:00 - [30] Edited by: Karlen Velro on 22/08/2010 15:35:32 Edited by: Karlen Velro on 22/08/2010 15:35:20 we've had our arses against the wall on a couple of occasions in the past and each time we've come out fighting (normally accompanied with girly screams from me on coms ) and if you actually bothered to take a look at the corp history you'll find we have a pretty respectable efficiency. in fact we trump you both personally and as a corp in almost every aspect (feel free to insert ôglass houseö proverb here...). im not about to spew abuse, you guys were good at what you did (i.e. organising your local space to be profitable) but that was really it, you're an admin alliance. Fort is one of the best FC's ive ever flown with and brady manages to make more money than God and combined we've got a good thing going on here, just because we didnt fancy flying with you doesnt mean we were useless so how about we stop the name calling and finger pointing, give someone else the chance to get some new forum **** up and we'll make sure to have a much higher attendance rating next time we're in the same fight (did you see what i did there... ) tl:dr Stop whinging, we'll see you in space.



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