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Oni Khinas	Posted - 2010.08.24 17:53:00 - [1] o/ everyone How are the faction standings for a corp calculated across the corp member base? For example, lets say I've got a 8+ standing with Caldari, then along goes a new gallente member with -2 standings with the navy. How does this impact the overall standings of the corp? Last thing I want is to lose my hisec anchorging privs just to let a buddy of mine join corp Cheers! OK
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.24 17:55:00 - [2] I believe it's averaged between all the players in your corp. If you have neutral standings, they don't factor in. For example, a two person corp with players at 8.0 and 4.0 will have a 6.0, but a two person corp with players at 8.0 and 0.0 will have an 8.0. It also takes a week for new member's standings to factor in after they've joined. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Matalino	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:05:00 - [3] Edited by: Matalino on 24/08/2010 18:05:32 It is simply the mean of all corp members that have standings and have been in the corp for 7 days. So after new Gallente character has been member of the corp for 7 days, the corp standings would be (8 - 2) / 2 = 3. If you want your anchoring privileges back, just kick him out of the corp for a little while.
Oni Khinas	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:20:00 - [4] Gotcha. What happens if the ranking member of the corp (ie: the one with the most contribution towards standing) drops corp? It's not a huge deal, I was just curious.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:21:00 - [5] Originally by: Oni Khinas Gotcha. What happens if the ranking member of the corp (ie: the one with the most contribution towards standing) drops corp? It's not a huge deal, I was just curious. I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Oni Khinas	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Oni Khinas Gotcha. What happens if the ranking member of the corp (ie: the one with the most contribution towards standing) drops corp? It's not a huge deal, I was just curious. I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. Hmmm...interesting. I've got 2 towers up, but once they're up they're up right? assuming faction drop below 5 (they are in all .5 space). Good to know the mechanics for the future
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Oni Khinas Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Oni Khinas Gotcha. What happens if the ranking member of the corp (ie: the one with the most contribution towards standing) drops corp? It's not a huge deal, I was just curious. I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. Hmmm...interesting. I've got 2 towers up, but once they're up they're up right? assuming faction drop below 5 (they are in all .5 space). Good to know the mechanics for the future Yep, once they're up, they're up. Whenever my corp needs to throw up a POS they just kick everyone for a week... lol Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:39:00 - [8] they are calculated using a formula
Oni Khinas	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Oni Khinas Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Oni Khinas Gotcha. What happens if the ranking member of the corp (ie: the one with the most contribution towards standing) drops corp? It's not a huge deal, I was just curious. I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. Hmmm...interesting. I've got 2 towers up, but once they're up they're up right? assuming faction drop below 5 (they are in all .5 space). Good to know the mechanics for the future Yep, once they're up, they're up. Whenever my corp needs to throw up a POS they just kick everyone for a week... lol Sweet, I can deal with that LOL. I was really just worried about my towers getting all scrwed up over my friend. I like him...but not that much LOL Fly safe gents
Oni Khinas	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:48:00 - [10] Originally by: omgfreemoniez they are calculated using a formula ...good call.
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:55:00 - [11] Edited by: Nika Dekaia on 24/08/2010 18:55:35 Originally by: Stick Cult I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. The standing of any player who has been part of the corp for seven days/DTs is used for the calculation. So if someone drops out of corp, the standing will change the very next DT.
Ruziel Minmatar Twilight Military Industrial Complex	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Edited by: Nika Dekaia on 24/08/2010 18:55:35 Originally by: Stick Cult I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. The standing of any player who has been part of the corp for seven days/DTs is used for the calculation. So if someone drops out of corp, the standing will change the very next DT. This is correct, it takes 7 days for the standing of someone joining the corp to be counted, but if someone leaves, their contribution to the standings average is removed at the next downtime.
Matalino	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:29:00 - [13] Edited by: Matalino on 24/08/2010 19:28:52 Originally by: Nika Dekaia Originally by: Stick Cult I think it takes a week for it to take effect, then it reworks the average. The standing of any player who has been part of the corp for seven days/DTs is used for the calculation. So if someone drops out of corp, the standing will change the very next DT... ...provided that there is someone left in the corp that has standings with that entity. If nobody in the corp has standings with that NPC faction or corp, the corp standings will remain in effect until someone in the corp causes the average standing to change. This is particularly useful if someone joins the corp who has +8.0 standings with an obscure NPC corp that has medical facilities: jump clones for everyone! As long as none of the alts in a corp have any faction standings, it is possibe for a corp to retain anchoring privileges even if the person who had the standings leaves the corp.
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2010.08.24 20:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Matalino ...provided that there is someone left in the corp that has standings with that entity. If nobody in the corp has standings with that NPC faction or corp, the corp standings will remain in effect until someone in the corp causes the average standing to change. This is particularly useful if someone joins the corp who has +8.0 standings with an obscure NPC corp that has medical facilities: jump clones for everyone! As long as none of the alts in a corp have any faction standings, it is possibe for a corp to retain anchoring privileges even if the person who had the standings leaves the corp. Didn't know that one. Thanks. As it has not been mentioned: the standings you see are rounded. So a char that shows a 0.0 standing might actually have a 0.001 standing with that corp and will then be part of the corp standing calculation.
Estel Arador	Posted - 2010.08.24 21:40:00 - [15] Edited by: Estel Arador on 24/08/2010 21:41:04 The information in this thread is not only getting more detailed, but it's also getting more accurate (which is almost a miracle on these forums ) My contribution is an addition to what Nika said. Originally by: Nika Dekaia As it has not been mentioned: the standings you see are rounded. So a char that shows a 0.0 standing might actually have a 0.001 standing with that corp and will then be part of the corp standing calculation. A charactar that shows 0.0 standing *has* (as opposed to 'might have') a non-zero standing which is rounded. These are taken into account in the calculations. Characters with actual zero standings to a corp/faction simply don't show an entry for that corp/faction. These are not taken into account in the calculations. Free jumpclone service\|1092 stations!
Lost Greybeard	Posted - 2010.08.24 23:58:00 - [16] IIRC, member corporation standings are averaged to get individual faction standings as well. So to get your corp average up, having a "L4 corp of the week" type thing that you take all the members to will likely be more beneficial than just having them all run for whatever corp of the chosen faction you have the highest mission levels for. I feel your pain, by the way, even getting individual faction standings over 6 is a pain in the arse.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.08.25 00:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Nika Dekaia As it has not been mentioned: the standings you see are rounded. So a char that shows a 0.0 standing might actually have a 0.001 standing with that corp and will then be part of the corp standing calculation. A charactar that shows 0.0 standing *has* (as opposed to 'might have') a non-zero standing which is rounded. These are taken into account in the calculations. Characters with actual zero standings to a corp/faction simply don't show an entry for that corp/faction. These are not taken into account in the calculations. àand to add to this, something that bit us when creating [SLOPS] because I wasn't on the ball: if you add (completely) new players or alt characters to a corp, it's worth considering advising these new chars to never do any faction-related stuff. Keep them away from the tutorial missions and storylines and such, because a single one of these will instantly give them standings changes ù direct or derrived ù to just about every entity in the game, and thus start to affect the averages of the corp. Teach them directly the stuff the tutorials would explain to them, and give them the equipment and skillbooks they'd get from the funds the corp already has. The hassle avoided is well worth this rather small investment, and you can probably teach them better than some automated script can anywayà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

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