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Miniemoo
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Posted - 2010.08.25 22:27:00 -
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just a general Question / response thread.
Been Playing like 4 years now with Breaks in-between.
anyways i went out for a big Spin to have a look see whats been happening.
i though the last patch was to improve the Intake of players to 0.0 , the situation seems to be getting worse.
The spin i took i ended up getting chased by a 40 man gang then a 80 man gang then 150 plus gang chasing me out. lol doesnt that seem a little excessive, what got me to thing they have nothing else to Kill. (take me back to the old days in Venal)
Between Coalitions and big alliances there is still only a few Entities running the whole show.
i have been around the block as this is a Alt toon.
these are some of the issues i see in-game and hope things get a little better in the future.
Good Corporations having to jump on the Band wagon with Bigger entities- now how many of these last when they jump into that Political mumbojumbo.
its like selling your soul to the devil
Nice Tidy Alliances having to Recruit excess to pay for Rent to get access to 0.0 - internally they become a Isk *horing Alliance.
is there any other way a small entity can survive out there ?
you seem to have to put a lot of time in and even less getting kicked out. :P
Please give me some feedback guys im sure you can, also add anything else you think that might be suitable on this topic.
dont just reply with the usual crap like "Join an alliance" or "rent" for 5 bill a month
No wonder Jita is so congested and Motsu and Npc Corp have ridiculous amouts of people Raking in there iskies.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
Mostly Cookie
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Posted - 2010.08.25 22:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Miniemoo
is there any other way a small entity can survive out there ?
Its not easy being a small enitiy in 0.0, but its also not that hard to survive out there if you do it right. The NPC Nullsec areas have a good spackling of such entities that mostly detest the idea of joining big band-wagon alliances.
Trying to take Sov for yourself, however, is a PITA and will most likely see you being curbstomped sooner than later.
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Aedun Sole > flying with lyk is like flying a bus filled with 5 year old children
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Nisanu
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Posted - 2010.08.25 22:57:00 -
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I agree with the above poster. It's not easy, but certainly doable (and fun), especially in NPC regions.
EVE game mechanics do not favour solo or small gang pilots in 0.0, unfortunately. This harms everyone in the long run (less PvP targets, etc.), except those who only want alliance warfare and blobs, and I really hope that CCP will try to reverse the trend.
However, if you go to NPC 0.0 and are careful and not overly ambitious, you can still have a good time. I personally find it much more fun than "safe" stuff in Empire space.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.25 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: Miniemoo
is there any other way a small entity can survive out there ?
Its not easy being a small enitiy in 0.0, but its also not that hard to survive out there if you do it right. The NPC Nullsec areas have a good spackling of such entities that mostly detest the idea of joining big band-wagon alliances.
Trying to take Sov for yourself, however, is a PITA and will most likely see you being curbstomped sooner than later.
Take your time, prove your small alliance/corp is useful while being based in npc space. This does not mean grease up a big alliance, but rather earn their respect. Give yourself a long period of time of quality game play to allow yourself time to become a respected entity. If your lucky you may be allowed to exist for the purpose of good fights.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.08.25 23:06:00 -
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NPC 0.0. That simple.
Problem is that there is not enough NPC 0.0 space out there as Eve continues to grow. One of my main thrusts with the CSM election was an expansion of NPC 0.0 space.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.25 23:09:00 -
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If by small entity the op means really small like solo or a 5 to 10 person corp then you either have to get absorbed into a corp that is already in an alliance or do what I did and stick a carrier out in nullsec and use it as a base of operations for exploration, ratting and pvp. Since then though they have introduced the orca which is actually better at that role now than a carrier but requires a bit more effort to move around. I farmed venal for ages doing that with 5 accounts and might go do it again if fw keeps getting worse as far as player participation is concerned.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida
Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.08.25 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: Miniemoo
is there any other way a small entity can survive out there ?
Its not easy being a small enitiy in 0.0, but its also not that hard to survive out there if you do it right. The NPC Nullsec areas have a good spackling of such entities that mostly detest the idea of joining big band-wagon alliances.
Trying to take Sov for yourself, however, is a PITA and will most likely see you being curbstomped sooner than later.
This, more or less. I never did find much reason to stay in npc nullsec, but if you actually want to be in nullsec (just for the sake of being there) then that is the place for you. Sov has, and will always be the realm of the biggest power blocks. If you are not there at the expressed consent of one of the coalitions, chances are you will not be there long.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.25 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
If by small entity the op means really small like solo or a 5 to 10 person corp then you either have to get absorbed into a corp that is already in an alliance or do what I did and stick a carrier out in nullsec and use it as a base of operations for exploration, ratting and pvp. Since then though they have introduced the orca which is actually better at that role now than a carrier but requires a bit more effort to move around. I farmed venal for ages doing that with 5 accounts and might go do it again if fw keeps getting worse as far as player participation is concerned.
why not use a rorqual?
med clone bays make logistics so much easier
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.25 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Zeba
If by small entity the op means really small like solo or a 5 to 10 person corp then you either have to get absorbed into a corp that is already in an alliance or do what I did and stick a carrier out in nullsec and use it as a base of operations for exploration, ratting and pvp. Since then though they have introduced the orca which is actually better at that role now than a carrier but requires a bit more effort to move around. I farmed venal for ages doing that with 5 accounts and might go do it again if fw keeps getting worse as far as player participation is concerned.
why not use a rorqual?
med clone bays make logistics so much easier
It was actually a thought but I already have the carrier stashed as I never brought it back. Still, not a bad idea. Might even do some wh mining then as them thar crokite roids are HUGE. 
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida
Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.08.26 07:02:00 -
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Expand, make friends. OH MY GOD I have to talk to people in a M(Multiplayer)ORPG! Not everything in EVE is meant to be achieved solo, just as not everything is meant to be achieved in a 5/10/20/100 person corporation.
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Riaqu
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Posted - 2010.08.26 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Expand, make friends. OH MY GOD I have to talk to people in a M(Multiplayer)ORPG! Not everything in EVE is meant to be achieved solo, just as not everything is meant to be achieved in a 5/10/20/100 person corporation.
Why do people always feel the need to be critical of the way others play?
There is nothing in the words of "MMORPG" that suggest that cooperation is necessary. It only means you are playing a game with multiple other players. You can try to avoid them, kill them or cooperate with them, it's up to you. There's nothing wrong with playing solo, that's why it's called a sandbox.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.08.26 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Riaqu
Why do people always feel the need to be critical of the way others play?
There is nothing in the words of "MMORPG" that suggest that cooperation is necessary. It only means you are playing a game with multiple other players. You can try to avoid them, kill them or cooperate with them, it's up to you. There's nothing wrong with playing solo, that's why it's called a sandbox.
He is correct though. Less sand for the solo lone rangers and it's highly tilted in the favor of the blobby entities.
See your wallet for details
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Riaqu
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Posted - 2010.08.26 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
He is correct though. Less sand for the solo lone rangers and it's highly tilted in the favor of the blobby entities.
See your wallet for details
That's true, it's obviously easier to have friends in an MMORPG, certainly EVE (I think that EVE is too unbalanced against solo players, but that's a whole different debate), but that doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with a player choosing to go solo.
My point was simply that I don't understand why people criticise others for playing a game in their own way. Loading up your Kestrel with 74 plexes is just foolish, and deserves some mocking. Choosing to play EVE solo is a legitimate choice, and I don't see why it should be criticised.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.08.26 11:23:00 -
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Well it's not quite in the same league as "you don't have to breath oxygen if you don't want to" advice, probably more of a "if you go into the woods today, you better go with some more gais".
Carry on though, just don't expect any features out in 0.0 to be to your liking. <shrugs>
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.08.26 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 26/08/2010 11:36:54
Originally by: Riaqu
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Expand, make friends. OH MY GOD I have to talk to people in a M(Multiplayer)ORPG! Not everything in EVE is meant to be achieved solo, just as not everything is meant to be achieved in a 5/10/20/100 person corporation.
Why do people always feel the need to be critical of the way others play?
There is nothing in the words of "MMORPG" that suggest that cooperation is necessary. It only means you are playing a game with multiple other players. You can try to avoid them, kill them or cooperate with them, it's up to you. There's nothing wrong with playing solo, that's why it's called a sandbox.
I didn't say it's necessary, and of course it is not. But there is certain content reserved for solo players, and there is certain content reserved for teams. You are free to take part in the solo content if you like, but to take part in team content you need to, you know, get a team.
Originally by: Spurty
Carry on though, just don't expect any features out in 0.0 to be to your liking. <shrugs>
Hehe. I don't find any of the empire features to be particularly to my liking. It just shows that everyone is different.
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Dalv Fliteo
Minmatar
Not Another One Man Corporation
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Posted - 2010.08.26 11:37:00 -
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As previously stated it is possible to make a non-ninja living in 00... In npc space. As a small entity/corp. I have allies though. And if people want to interdict your access to some region. The closer to empire, the harder it is to live in.
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