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Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.08.25 23:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Caleb Ayrania on 25/08/2010 23:45:10 I think it would be epic if you could buy a plex and cash it in for issues of EON or similar items in the EVE store. So you paid postage only. Ideally opening for more items for PLEX in the store would be awesome, but at least EON which is kind of a hot seller would be viable within CCP budget, loss wise!? The PR value alone would make up for a lot of the potential loss. Since the RL money have already been injected into CCP giving back to the community this way would be nice. OFC maybe only one of each issue bound to each account would be a way to limit this in regards to abuse.. UPS WRONG TAB.. Please move to Features forum! Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge cocktails and Dreams.
Jita Bloodtear	Posted - 2010.08.26 00:03:00 - [2] I've suggested this before as well. It's a great idea. PLEX are worth real money, so why can't we cash them out on other CCP products. It'd make sense, and CCP would make a bit of money they had been missing out on before --------------------------- Full Explanation of the Industry Index System
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.08.26 00:18:00 - [3] It would also be a good way of testing general "closed" economy market. Selling immaterial content like pdfs of EVE content, or maybe even other ccp produts like Whitewolf/WoD. A model like this could "pay" for some awesome work on making EVE backstory, player manuals and similar. Might even want to add services similar to apple apps store, where player created immaterial content could be traded for PLEX/ISK, only usable for other EVE/WoD related content. Not sure how edgy that would be to the EULA as it stands, but since we are already trading player created content for isk it should be in the clear. Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge cocktails and Dreams.
MarieFrance Tessier	Posted - 2010.08.26 03:07:00 - [4] I believe this is why 'reverse redeem' was originally introduced, but it never fully came to fruition. I'd be interested to see it work.
Regis Nex	Posted - 2010.08.26 09:39:00 - [5] Id like that +1 Booboo Bear Pew Pew
Lecherito	Posted - 2010.08.26 11:15:00 - [6] Aren't CCP shipping fees known for being more than little unreasonable? =P -L
Utemetsu Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.26 13:16:00 - [7] PLEX is worth real money to us, but to CCP, it's just ISK out. No cash in. Publications, especially magazines, have VERY small profit margins because of the cost of production. You have to pay writers, designers, editors, etc. then pay for the actual cost of materials (call a local printer, ask them how much it would cost to print a book of the same dimensions/page numbers). It would be a bad business move on CCP's part, and would mean less money going towards the game itself. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Dzil Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.26 13:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Utemetsu PLEX is worth real money to us, but to CCP, it's just ISK out. No cash in. Publications, especially magazines, have VERY small profit margins because of the cost of production. You have to pay writers, designers, editors, etc. then pay for the actual cost of materials (call a local printer, ask them how much it would cost to print a book of the same dimensions/page numbers). It would be a bad business move on CCP's part, and would mean less money going towards the game itself. I'd disagree. PLEX for EON mag would mean more subscribers to the mag, from people that otherwise wouldn't shell real cash for the mag (but have plenty of isk lying around, and possibly would get a kick from seeing an IRL tangible gain from their internet spaceships empire.) EON gets their money either way assuming CCP is fair with their accounting. Retired from corp sales. Time to spend some of this on pretty explosions :)
DeftCrow Redriver	Posted - 2010.08.26 13:36:00 - [9] I believe you should post this idea at the assembly hall. You have my support There is a proposal for allowing payment in PLEX for facelifts / character exchanges. Combining your idea with the above makes more sense in your "PLEX as payment" proposal. CCP already charges an extra 2.5 USD/Euro for each month worth of game time, so it will be basically converting $17.5 into a $15 coupon that can be traded within the market. No loss for CCP, whatsoever.
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2010.08.26 14:33:00 - [10] PLEX = RW money is a one way transaction. When people buy PLEX with RW money and sell it in game, CCP makes money. People that wouldn't pay to play the game, in effect, are having someone else pay for them to play. If you could sell PLEX for RW money or trade it for other things of value like store items or EON mag, then CCP loses money because that is PLEX that won't be used to to pay for the account of someone that otherwise wouldn't pay. This is why CCP spends so much time going after out of game ISK sellers. * Could you imagine the black market in these things if you could swap PLEX for them... Someone with 20 macro accounts, fully funded on PLEX, swaps his 100 extra PLEX a month for 50 copies of EON and then goes into business reselling those magazines for a price under CCP's price. 3 PLEX for a T-Shirt, and suddenly CCP can't sell any for real money as all the macros are fighting each other to to have the largest discount. ALL cuts into CCP profits.

DeftCrow Redriver	Posted - 2010.08.26 15:18:00 - [11] Edited by: DeftCrow Redriver on 26/08/2010 15:18:32 Originally by: LHA Tarawa When people buy PLEX with RW money and sell it in game, CCP makes money. People that wouldn't pay to play the game, in effect, are having someone else pay for them to play. I don't see how it's different for real life merchandices. If someone buys a merchandive with PLEXes, it means that somebody has already paied for the price of the product and the shipping cost by injecting PLEXes to the market. Originally by: LHA Tarawa ...CCP loses money because that is PLEX that won't be used to to pay for the account of someone that otherwise wouldn't pay. Nope. Paying subscriptions and paying for merchandices are two different markets. It's the PLEX itself that matters, not how it's used in terms of game play. Hence the PLEX-blowing-up changes Originally by: LHA Tarawa * Could you imagine the black market in these things if you could swap PLEX for them... Someone with 20 macro accounts, fully funded on PLEX, swaps his 100 extra PLEX a month for 50 copies of EON and then goes into business reselling those magazines for a price under CCP's price... and suddenly CCP can't sell any for real money as all the macros are fighting each other to to have the largest discount. ALL cuts into CCP profits. "This is why CCP spends so much time going after out of game ISK sellers." You said that for yourself. Oh, by the way, what makes you think other players with PLEXes will buy from black market traders, who will certainly ask for real life money, no matter how much the discount rate is? Edit: Typo.
Lucyna Minmatar Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises	Posted - 2010.08.26 16:47:00 - [12] It's too bad that they wouldn't distribute PDFs because the prevalence of piracy. Also, if people could get EON for plex, we'd see a big increase in the isk price, as it'd be a demand shock. We also might see an increase in purchased PLEXs as the suppliers could get more isk for their dollars. Overall, I'd think it'd be a good idea for CCP, but the people who buy PLEX for game time and only that won't like it too much.
Thrasymachus TheSophist	Posted - 2010.08.26 17:15:00 - [13] CCP's whole point is that PLEX is an "in game" item, and is treated as such. They recently made them moveable, etc. to further de-differentiate PLEX from other "in game" items. I strongly suspect that this is fueled by legal concerns. I would be incredibly surprised if they expanded the use of PLEX beyond being usable to purchase game-time, because then PLEX is being used as a currency to purchase a good (a magazine). You'd have all kinds of potential tax implications. I feel quite confident in predicting: Won't happen. Ever.
Vilgan Mazran Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.08.26 19:44:00 - [14] They accepted plex for fanfest tickets, which theoretically had a real money value as well. Not the exact same, but it seems pretty close. I'd buy plexes and trade them in for EON magazines. I haven't had any desire to spend out of game currency, but have isk to spare and it seems like everyone benefits. CCP gains more revenue, people selling plexes get more bang for their buck as prices would rise a bit, and people with lots of isk get a mag they might not otherwise get. Who is the loser in this?
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.08.26 20:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Vilgan Mazran They accepted plex for fanfest tickets, which theoretically had a real money value as well. Not the exact same, but it seems pretty close. I'd buy plexes and trade them in for EON magazines. I haven't had any desire to spend out of game currency, but have isk to spare and it seems like everyone benefits. CCP gains more revenue, people selling plexes get more bang for their buck as prices would rise a bit, and people with lots of isk get a mag they might not otherwise get. Who is the loser in this? And you could add a layer more.. in regards to PDFs of say WoD books, and EVE books. PLEX or piracy? I think PLEX is a better choice for ccp and players. Just saying this is a potentially huge market and a big step in the development of virtual currencies. To mention an example. I believe ccp by proxy now owns the rights to all the old WoD books. I have a nice collection but a few holes. If the price was right, since this is a discontinued product, I would use virtual currency to buy these pdfs instead of trying to get them through secondhand or piracy. I get high quality scans, and creator gets paid indirectly.. Everyone wins. Oh and I know I would buy pdfs of the EON magazine if those were sold say 3 for one PLEX. If hooked then also the full backissue collection of the hardcopies. Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge cocktails and Dreams.
Regis Nex	Posted - 2010.08.26 22:27:00 - [16] A larger gaming population doesnt even know what the EON mag is. Im confident to bet my man gonads on that piece of info. So having them available for PLEX could certainly boost player awareness and mag purchase IN-GAME. And yes tax implications and issues can arise out of it. Booboo Bear Pew Pew
Zombiebucks	Posted - 2010.08.26 23:25:00 - [17] They should just make EON available as a digital download, then Id actually pay real money for it. Having to actually have paper delivered to my house and taking up room is kind of immersion breaking for a scifi game set millenia in the future. Its a bit pathetic in this day and age really. I will never ever subscribe to a physical copy. Id subscribe immediately if it was dig download. On a pad style device it would be perfect.
Paul Clavet Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2010.08.26 23:55:00 - [18] Missionrunner in Golem shoots at me. I return in a pew ship and demand a ransom. I get paid. I pew him anyway. He drops faction loot. I use the ISK to buy PLEX to buy a Guristas T-shirt. YES. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
Xylopia Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.08.27 00:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Caleb Ayrania I think it would be epic if you could buy a plex and cash it in for issues of EON or similar items in the EVE store. This will inevitably open a door to those schurkes armed with plenty of experience and knowledge in court at biting off chunks of meet from someone's chest with a massive flood of blood. CCP, with that much of relatively tiny profit and annual sales, will go down without even having a chance to scream for sure. It won't happen...cuz gamerz r all boneheads? hmmm.... Let's say I'm a guy who's just lost 740 Plexes in a Kestal @ Jita 4-4. Knowing Plex can be cashed out like op suggested, what are my chances to say "Nah" to a lawyer persuading me to drag CCP into a court? Probably very slight, and it will inevitably happen. I strongly hope CCP is that naive so I can ...
Cobalt Sixty Caldari Genos Occidere	Posted - 2010.08.27 17:59:00 - [20] "EON Magazine sold for PLEX" ... your title implied to me that EON is already being distributed for PLEX when that isn't the case. Maybe you should emphasise in the title that this is an idea, not an existing situation.


CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.28 11:06:00 - [21] Moved on request of Op from Market Discussions to Assembly Hall. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Dzil Caldari Independent Navy Reserve OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.28 15:27:00 - [22] Adding in to my response since the post moved, mainly just to sign it :P I think this would increase the readership of the magazine, and the money (as far as I can tell) goes to CCP either way. Retired from corp sales. Time to spend some of this on pretty explosions :)
DeftCrow Redriver	Posted - 2010.08.28 18:35:00 - [23] Now that this is in the assembly hall, I'll give my support as promised. /signed
Mynxee	Posted - 2010.08.29 02:04:00 - [24] Edited by: Mynxee on 29/08/2010 02:12:59 Just FYI, doubt this could work (unless CCP implemented a way to offer all store merchandise for PLEX in lieu of cash) because CCP does not publish E-ON, MMM Publishing does (although CCP might underwrite the costs of publication; I have no idea). Would be kinda cool to pay for stuff from the EVE store with PLEX though...since PLEX = income for CCP, so they don't lose out cuz someone somewhere had to purchase the PLEX in the first place for RL cash. Life In Low Sec
yani dumyat Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate	Posted - 2010.09.19 12:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Mynxee Edited by: Mynxee on 29/08/2010 02:12:59 Just FYI, doubt this could work (unless CCP implemented a way to offer all store merchandise for PLEX in lieu of cash) because CCP does not publish E-ON, MMM Publishing does (although CCP might underwrite the costs of publication; I have no idea). Would be kinda cool to pay for stuff from the EVE store with PLEX though...since PLEX = income for CCP, so they don't lose out cuz someone somewhere had to purchase the PLEX in the first place for RL cash. Agreed and apparently CCP Zymurgist does too _______ Trolls and Tribulations A story of eve, trolls, world domination and dogfighting against starlings in a tiny dramiel.
Maxsim Goratiev Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate Warped Aggression	Posted - 2010.09.19 12:48:00 - [26] Quote: * Could you imagine the black market in these things if you could swap PLEX for them... Someone with 20 macro accounts, fully funded on PLEX, swaps his 100 extra PLEX a month for 50 copies of EON and then goes into business reselling those magazines for a price under CCP's price... and suddenly CCP can't sell any for real money as all the macros are fighting each other to to have the largest discount. ALL cuts into CCP profits. In that case two things would happen: CCP get's same amount of money, because soemone payed for the plex, so there is not loss. The idiot gets banned, as buying hundreds of plex a month will atracks attention.
Hammerswift Thunder The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.22 03:43:00 - [27] heres a thought first shipp all the store stuff to the 4 areas that ccp has offices in and let the shoper chose where it will be shiped from ie" USA GET IT FROM GA" .... 2nd i would buy EON mag with plex but the shiping just stops me still on anything from the store Fly like your going to die because death comes to us all. tm
VC General	Posted - 2010.09.22 09:01:00 - [28] Originally by: LHA Tarawa PLEX = RW money is a one way transaction. When people buy PLEX with RW money and sell it in game, CCP makes money. People that wouldn't pay to play the game, in effect, are having someone else pay for them to play. If you could sell PLEX for RW money or trade it for other things of value like store items or EON mag, then CCP loses money because that is PLEX that won't be used to to pay for the account of someone that otherwise wouldn't pay. This is why CCP spends so much time going after out of game ISK sellers. * Could you imagine the black market in these things if you could swap PLEX for them... Someone with 20 macro accounts, fully funded on PLEX, swaps his 100 extra PLEX a month for 50 copies of EON and then goes into business reselling those magazines for a price under CCP's price. 3 PLEX for a T-Shirt, and suddenly CCP can't sell any for real money as all the macros are fighting each other to to have the largest discount. ALL cuts into CCP profits. That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. PLEX basically = $14.95. Once someone has bought a PLEX CCP has made it's money. It's done. Now lets say I used PLEX to buy something from the Eve Store that was worth $14.95. Then I turn around and sell it for $13, thus undercutting CCP, and making that person not buy something from CCP. At this point, CCP still has it's money, someone else has my ISK and my merchandise, no one got a month of free gametime, and I've made less money than CCP. CCP still wins in that scenario, especially when assuming someone else will have to buy a PLEX or pay a subscription fee to keep the account open that my original PLEX was supposed to have done.
SwissChris1	Posted - 2010.09.22 09:04:00 - [29] I like this idea alot actually...I would never buy EON magazine but if I could trade a plex...maybe!


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