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Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:23:00 - [1] Will something be done about these coolant prices anytime soon? I'm not sure what the point of Tyrannis was if suddenly it's costing me a ton more to run a large pos. /end_rage This post won't accomplish anything I know, but I can't believe its costing me nearly 300 million isk for only 5 weeks of fuel and that doesn't even include robotics and mechanical parts which I am totally not including because I'm pretending that "minerals I mine are free".
Xornicon Altair Woopatang Primary.	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:35:00 - [2] Start PI Processes and make your own. Problem solved. ----- CCP FAILS AGAIN! WHERE ARE THE ALLIANCE LOGOS???
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Xornicon Altair Start PI Processes and make your own. Problem solved. You're so smart. Did you not get the mineral I mine are free part at all?
Zorn Baderdash	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Sader Rykane Originally by: Xornicon Altair Start PI Processes and make your own. Problem solved. You're so smart. Did you not get the mineral I mine are free part at all? Perhaps farming coolant is smarter then mech parts?
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Zorn Baderdash Originally by: Sader Rykane Originally by: Xornicon Altair Start PI Processes and make your own. Problem solved. You're so smart. Did you not get the mineral I mine are free part at all? Perhaps farming coolant is smarter then mech parts? Wormhole corp.
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Sader Rykane Originally by: Zorn Baderdash Originally by: Sader Rykane Originally by: Xornicon Altair Start PI Processes and make your own. Problem solved. You're so smart. Did you not get the mineral I mine are free part at all? Perhaps farming coolant is smarter then mech parts? Wormhole corp. You should consider moving to a new hole.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Irae Ragwan You should consider moving to a new hole. Eh? How does that change the fact that fuel prices are still costing me nearly 300 million a month. Whether I make it myself or buy it it still costs me 300 million...
Londo Cebb	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:08:00 - [8] So what's your point?
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Londo Cebb So what's your point? What I said in the first post... Coolant prices suck and this post does nothing but state my frustration with said sucky prices. It's not like the OP is overly complicated.
Londo Cebb	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:23:00 - [10] Coolant prices don't suck. In fact they are really good right now. I am making a ton of Isk. off of it.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Sader Rykane Will something be done about these coolant prices anytime soon? I'm not sure what the point of Tyrannis was if suddenly it's costing me a ton more to run a large pos. I'm pretty sure CCP won't be doing anything about it any time soon, and I have a feeling fuel costs were not a ~~major~~ concern as far as Tyrannis goes. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
omgfreemoniez	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Sader Rykane Coolant prices suck and this post does nothing but state my frustration with said sucky prices. Ah, so you're crying. CRY MOAR, THEN.
Halborn Celtic Technologies Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.27 21:48:00 - [13] Nothing is gonna be done about it. Its a player market so prices fluctuate and the fact we have more control now is better. Live with it. If your pos is no longer profitable to run then look at something else. ------------------------------ CEO Celtic Technologies Inc.
Boogie Bobby	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:02:00 - [14] If you really want to fix it go over to the Science and Industry forum and make a manipulation post about how ridiculously easy and profitable making PI coolant is.
Patri Andari Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:25:00 - [15] Making PI coolant is ridiculously easy and profitable . Patri I'll Roshambo You For That Titan!
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:35:00 - [16] Every time people ask about how to make ISK I point them at the Making ISK guide. Datacores are still over 300k each. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Regis Nex	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:46:00 - [17] They're intentionally making Fuel price soar so high so youll stay more on your offices/beauty parlors inside stations when Incarna hits and forget about your Pos. Booboo Bear Pew Pew
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.08.28 00:43:00 - [18] The more items ccp injects into the game there are two results.. 1. The added complexity add gameplay, but also creates a rather big timesink. Thus everything becomes a little bit harder, unless these things can in part or fully be automated. "Time is money friend" as goblins say in wow. 2. When more items are injected into the scc market the barrier to trade these are raised. This is because less traders can be in markets. Their diversification option is reduced. When competition is reduced prices go up. I have tried for several years to warn about this, and ask players to support that ccp remove the order and contracts limitation. It is exactly for the above reason. The "Old money" already have the financial power to corner markets, but the order and contract limitation makes this barrier and the resulting oligopoly(cartel like monopolies) even larger. Until players figure this out its just going to get worse every time a new range of items are added to the game.. QED. Enjoy! Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge cocktails and Dreams.
Xylopia Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:27:00 - [19] OP, I know of a genius way to handle your, uh, issue. Very simply, Stay the f* out of it, by any means.**
Mire Stoude The Undesirables	Posted - 2010.08.28 08:19:00 - [20] As a coolant manufacturer, I thank you. Your sacrifice has allowed me to make a good sum of Isk without doing much work at all.
Hooded Hauler	Posted - 2010.08.28 08:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Mire Stoude As a coolant manufacturer, I thank you. Your sacrifice has allowed me to make a good sum of Isk without doing much work at all.
Junior Dragon	Posted - 2010.08.28 11:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Sader Rykane I'm not sure what the point of Tyrannis was if suddenly it's costing me a ton more to run a large pos. We can together make a conclusion, that reducting POS costs wasn't the point of this expansion
Johan Lightstrider Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.28 11:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Caleb Ayrania The more items ccp injects into the game there are two results.. 1. The added complexity add gameplay, but also creates a rather big timesink. Thus everything becomes a little bit harder, unless these things can in part or fully be automated. "Time is money friend" as goblins say in wow. 2. When more items are injected into the scc market the barrier to trade these are raised. This is because less traders can be in markets. Their diversification option is reduced. When competition is reduced prices go up. I have tried for several years to warn about this, and ask players to support that ccp remove the order and contracts limitation. It is exactly for the above reason. The "Old money" already have the financial power to corner markets, but the order and contract limitation makes this barrier and the resulting oligopoly(cartel like monopolies) even larger. Until players figure this out its just going to get worse every time a new range of items are added to the game.. QED. Enjoy! Hire mercs to kill / disrupt the cartels monopolies?
heheheh Ecliptic Refuge	Posted - 2010.08.28 12:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Sader Rykane Originally by: Xornicon Altair Start PI Processes and make your own. Problem solved. You're so smart. Did you not get the mineral I mine are free part at all? its not the same though is it, clicking for 20 minutes once a day is nothing like mining, it is 99% passive.
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster	Posted - 2010.08.28 17:54:00 - [25] Originally by: Johan Lightstrider Originally by: Caleb Ayrania The more items ccp injects into the game there are two results.. 1. The added complexity add gameplay, but also creates a rather big timesink. Thus everything becomes a little bit harder, unless these things can in part or fully be automated. "Time is money friend" as goblins say in wow. 2. When more items are injected into the scc market the barrier to trade these are raised. This is because less traders can be in markets. Their diversification option is reduced. When competition is reduced prices go up. I have tried for several years to warn about this, and ask players to support that ccp remove the order and contracts limitation. It is exactly for the above reason. The "Old money" already have the financial power to corner markets, but the order and contract limitation makes this barrier and the resulting oligopoly(cartel like monopolies) even larger. Until players figure this out its just going to get worse every time a new range of items are added to the game.. QED. Enjoy! Hire mercs to kill / disrupt the cartels monopolies? Kind of like trying to put out a bonfire with a coffee cup.. Or peeing your pants to keep warm.. Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge cocktails and Dreams.
Londo Cebb	Posted - 2010.08.28 20:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Caleb Ayrania Kind of like trying to put out a bonfire with a coffee cup.. Or peeing your pants to keep warm.. I can honestly say that I have done both of these things.

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