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Nyveg Hyperborea Re	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:37:00 - [1] Let us assume you have one char. And you have a fairly to strongly tanked Drake. Post Ships and fits to get him before the aggresion timer runs out 1vs1. GL
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:39:00 - [2] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 27/08/2010 20:40:26 Pick one: Aeon, Nyx, Wyvern, Hel -Liang Ed: BTW, a torp raven stands a really good chance with 1500+ pure EM DPS. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:41:00 - [3] 1600 DPS Mega per QR, or past if he don't moves. Standard nano Pest this days, bump him out of dock/jump range works surprisingly good. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:45:00 - [4] Define "fairly to strongly tanked", in particular in terms of the resistsà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:47:00 - [5] Tippia, I'd assume: Drake 7x HML II 3x Extender II, 2x DG Invuln, Pith A-Type EM 3x PDU II, DC II 3x CDFE II Good PVP fit Drake amirite? I bet that thing would end up with 130-140k EHP. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Nyveg Hyperborea Re	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:50:00 - [6] Thx Djego. Well some docking ranges are insane but I'll try my best.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Liang Nuren Good PVP fit Drake amirite? Decent baità àbut lackluster damage projection and no way of dictating the terms of the fight and actually kill anything. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Liang Nuren Good PVP fit Drake amirite? Decent baità àbut lackluster damage projection and no way of dictating the terms of the fight and actually kill anything. Nonsense you just bring a few hundred of them and volley supercarriers. -Liang Fake Edit: I may or may not be feeling saucy today. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Intigo Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.27 21:04:00 - [9] And by "saucy" you mean "even worse at posting than usual"? ___________________
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Intigo And by "saucy" you mean "even worse at posting than usual"? Just trying to be like my hero <3 <3 Intigo -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog

Dusica Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:49:00 - [11] melt it with gankagedon ... 3x heat sink mega pulses and t2 ogres Eternal Will.
Das Governator The Republican Party	Posted - 2010.08.27 22:51:00 - [12] Using Liang's setup except with a t2 EM instead of a-type (really....) that's 130k EHP to lowest resist, which is therm. Pretending that shield regen is the same as 336 DPS tank until shields get to 10%, a ship doing 1500 dps will take just over 105 seconds to kill said drake. Also pretending the same as above, two perfect skills gank brutixes on overheat will do the job in 68 seconds. Well, more like 72 because they can only overheat for 56 seconds. Or you can use a typhoon. [Typhoon, I HATE DRAKES] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Co-Processor II Stasis Webifier II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 100MN Afterburner II Prototype ECCM I Ladar Sensor Cluster Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 Perfect skills ZMT2000 G2-Delta ZMM1000 1858 DPS on overheat. If he stays aggro for 20 seconds, he's toasted. 41k EHP. This will outlast said drake fit (by about 30 seconds), but if he has any friends....
Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Das Governator Using Liang's setup except with a t2 EM instead of a-type (really....) that's 130k EHP to lowest resist, which is therm. Pretending that shield regen is the same as 336 DPS tank until shields get to 10%, a ship doing 1500 dps will take just over 105 seconds to kill said drake. Also pretending the same as above, two perfect skills gank brutixes on overheat will do the job in 68 seconds. Well, more like 72 because they can only overheat for 56 seconds. Or you can use a typhoon. [Typhoon, I HATE DRAKES] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Co-Processor II Stasis Webifier II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 100MN Afterburner II Prototype ECCM I Ladar Sensor Cluster Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 Perfect skills ZMT2000 G2-Delta ZMM1000 1858 DPS on overheat. If he stays aggro for 20 seconds, he's toasted. 41k EHP. This will outlast said drake fit (by about 30 seconds), but if he has any friends.... Is that considering the fact that the Drake can overheat as well? Will it last long enough if the Drake has overheated shield hardeners and a 7-rack of overheated T2 Heavy Assault Launchers filled with Terror Rage Assault Missiles? I'm not sure of the answer, which is why I'm asking. I didn't know if you had considered that the Drake had overheated its hardeners.
Cid Mutation	Posted - 2010.08.28 00:40:00 - [14] It sucks I can't find it, but about a year ago I did a tank spread sheet with the best solo pvp drake load out I could find, against all the good solo pvp load out of any other that was coming my way to see what type of damage I should use against what opponent. And of all the ship on that spread sheet the only one I couldn't break the tank was the dominix and the golem. And there wasn't so many of them. On about a hundred load out there was 3 dominix and 2 Golem. So I guest if you want to beat a drake, you need a BS with crazy Kin resist and very good EM damage thats the way to go.
Gavin Darklighter Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.08.28 01:12:00 - [15] Edited by: Gavin Darklighter on 28/08/2010 01:16:44 The trick is to let the drake think he is winning so he doesn't de-aggress until it is too late. If you can pull that off then you shouldn't need face-melting firepower to get the kill. One of the advantages of an active tank is that you can effectively "bait" your opponent(s) into thinking that you are going to die soon when in reality you are letting them take you into hull only to keep them interested. If that isn't possible and you can't field the level of firepower needed to melt it in under 60 seconds, you can try bumping it off of whatever gate or station it is hugging. signature picture exceeds the size limit.~WeatherMan
Artemis Rose Clandestine Vector	Posted - 2010.08.28 01:34:00 - [16] Bump him off the undock or the gate. Any lolIamamightytanker Drake pilot would NEVER dare fit a propulsion mod to his beloved turtle. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Das Governator The Republican Party	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:11:00 - [17] Edited by: Das Governator on 28/08/2010 06:16:29 Originally by: Daergaar Originally by: Das Governator Using Liang's setup except with a t2 EM instead of a-type (really....) that's 130k EHP to lowest resist, which is therm. Pretending that shield regen is the same as 336 DPS tank until shields get to 10%, a ship doing 1500 dps will take just over 105 seconds to kill said drake. Also pretending the same as above, two perfect skills gank brutixes on overheat will do the job in 68 seconds. Well, more like 72 because they can only overheat for 56 seconds. Or you can use a typhoon. [Typhoon, I HATE DRAKES] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Co-Processor II Stasis Webifier II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 100MN Afterburner II Prototype ECCM I Ladar Sensor Cluster Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 Perfect skills ZMT2000 G2-Delta ZMM1000 1858 DPS on overheat. If he stays aggro for 20 seconds, he's toasted. 41k EHP. This will outlast said drake fit (by about 30 seconds), but if he has any friends.... Is that considering the fact that the Drake can overheat as well? Will it last long enough if the Drake has overheated shield hardeners and a 7-rack of overheated T2 Heavy Assault Launchers filled with Terror Rage Assault Missiles? I'm not sure of the answer, which is why I'm asking. I didn't know if you had considered that the Drake had overheated its hardeners. Good questions. It can't take a drake on overheat, so I've modified. Lose AB and ECCM, add Large Azeotropic and Kinetic Hardener II and it outlasts the drake by 35 seconds, and this is assuming drakes recharge happens always, so it will likely outlast by 45-50 seconds. edit: oops. figures had typhoon taking kin dmg while drake took omni dmg. Correct maths typhoon now outlasts drake by 70+ seconds.
Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Artemis Rose Bump him off the undock or the gate. Any lolIamamightytanker Drake pilot would NEVER dare fit a propulsion mod to his beloved turtle. I've been flying Drakes for two years...isn't an MWD/AB MANDATORY on a HAM Drake? If you're going to use HAMs, you need to be able to dictate range to some degree.
Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Das Governator Good questions. It can't take a drake on overheat, so I've modified. Lose AB and ECCM, add Large Azeotropic and Kinetic Hardener II and it outlasts the drake by 35 seconds, and this is assuming drakes recharge happens always, so it will likely outlast by 45-50 seconds. Thanks for modeling that out! That's useful information to know. And it just reinforces that Thermodynamics is one of the best mandatory PvP skills. It can turn the tide of a an engagement. Would you mind posting the fit of the Drake you used for modeling?
Das Governator The Republican Party	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Daergaar Originally by: Das Governator Good questions. It can't take a drake on overheat, so I've modified. Lose AB and ECCM, add Large Azeotropic and Kinetic Hardener II and it outlasts the drake by 35 seconds, and this is assuming drakes recharge happens always, so it will likely outlast by 45-50 seconds. Thanks for modeling that out! That's useful information to know. And it just reinforces that Thermodynamics is one of the best mandatory PvP skills. It can turn the tide of a an engagement. Would you mind posting the fit of the Drake you used for modeling? [Drake, Tank] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 IMO it's terrible fit, but it's basically the worst case scenario you'll encounter when you shoot drakes.

Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:37:00 - [21] Thanks for posting that. Yeah, that's basically one of the worst case (tank wise) scenarios you'd encounter. That's very close to a PvE ship...except with HAMs. You might see at least 1 SPRII on it too. My personal fit is probably what's highly likely to be encountered in PvP Drakes, with just 1 extender instead of 3, and 2 hardeners instead of 3. This one has an EM hole of only 66% resist. Really bad against Amarrian ships in general, but swapping a CDFE for an EM shield rig fixes that if I know I'd be likely to encounter them, or switching the web for an EM hardener. I don't really understand why people use Caldari Navy HAMs unless you're going after small targets. I carry both in my cargohold. Generally if I need to burn something fast, it's something that's dangerous to me, which is a battlecruiser or battleship. Cruisers and below (except for T3, but not counting those as they're not super common) don't have enough DPS for a Drake pilot to have to worry about taking 10 seconds to swap missiles. The sig bloat on the Terror Rage doesn't really matter versus battlecruisers and battleships, since with the 3 CDFE and the large extender, your sig is the size of a battleship anyways. [Drake, Daergaar's Butt Missiles] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Dandouna	Posted - 2010.08.28 11:40:00 - [22] Originally by: Das Governator Using Liang's setup except with a t2 EM instead of a-type (really....) that's 130k EHP to lowest resist, which is therm. Pretending that shield regen is the same as 336 DPS tank until shields get to 10%, a ship doing 1500 dps will take just over 105 seconds to kill said drake. Also pretending the same as above, two perfect skills gank brutixes on overheat will do the job in 68 seconds. Well, more like 72 because they can only overheat for 56 seconds. Or you can use a typhoon. [Typhoon, I HATE DRAKES] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Co-Processor II Stasis Webifier II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 100MN Afterburner II Prototype ECCM I Ladar Sensor Cluster Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 Perfect skills ZMT2000 G2-Delta ZMM1000 1858 DPS on overheat. If he stays aggro for 20 seconds, he's toasted. 41k EHP. This will outlast said drake fit (by about 30 seconds), but if he has any friends.... nice fit, but have u concederd that the drake pilot will shoot back ?
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.08.28 14:18:00 - [23] got to be the vindi with its 1500-2000 dps and 90% webs.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.08.28 15:31:00 - [24] yeap. till you meet large fleets of HM drakes which will just kite the hell out of any Battleship :) HAM drake is just a fitting that screams "i-can-solo-pvp-just-like-any-bc-do" cept HM drakes are still very popular with their mobility and damage projection
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.28 16:22:00 - [25] As a Drake pilot a Phoon doesnt scare me all that much if he is gank format with only 41k EHP since I have 80k EHP and huge range his torps will only be good within 16km at best also at that range the other 3 ACS`s arent doing full DMG. What is scary as hell in a drake is a Tempest piloted right, its the Anti-Drake IMO, Fast enough to get into perfect range and hell even escape while spewing big time DMG and since its so damned fast no chance of drakes escape. It also can use EM Ammo and have Nuets. Here is my nightmare in a Drake but that most peeps would underestimate till to late. [Tempest, BC PHOON] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 500W Infectious Power System Malfunction 500W Infectious Power System Malfunction Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I This is the anti Drake, just as fast, same HP with 800 Gun DPS and 960 with Drones upto 30km so you cant exploit its range in drake, 2 Nuets to suck its Invulns dry Basically its a SUPER CANE and Drake although it can beat the Cane 1v1 still 3/10 might not but with this setup you will kill a Drake almost 10 for 10 and peeps will be stupid and fight it more often because they heard Pest sucked for so long. -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Hyey	Posted - 2010.08.28 16:57:00 - [26] Originally by: Kail Storm Edited by: Kail Storm on 28/08/2010 16:31:39 As a Drake pilot a Phoon doesnt scare me all that much if he is gank format with only 41k EHP since I have 80k EHP and huge range his torps will only be good within 16km at best also at that range the other 3 ACS`s arent doing full DMG. What is scary as hell in a drake is a Tempest piloted right, its the Anti-Drake IMO, Fast enough to get into perfect range and hell can even escape while spewing big time DMG and since its so damned fast no chance of drakes escape. It also can use EM Ammo and have Nuets. The Nuets are Key here since you will shutdown his Invulns very fast. The Gank Phoon had to use his other 3 Hi`s for weps which is a mistake. This 2 Heavy Nuet/6 Gun fit is overall by far the scariest to me and most drake pilots. Here is my nightmare in a Drake but that most peeps would underestimate till to late. [Tempest, BC PHOON] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 500W Infectious Power System Malfunction 500W Infectious Power System Malfunction Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I This is the anti Drake, just as fast, same HP with 800 Gun DPS and 960 with Drones upto 30km so you cant exploit its range in drake, 2 Nuets to suck its Invulns/Tackle Dry so you make his EHP cut to 65% and he cant hold onto you and Warp Jamm you. If he decides to scram you he`s stupid and in full brunt of DMG at which he cant possibly win considering you have same tank with 2x DMG, if he stays at Dist range you can hold him and Eat him there. You also have Ec-300`s for the OH ** moment. Basically its a SUPER CANE and Drake although it can beat the Cane 1v1 still has a hard enough time let alone with almost x2 the tank and the speed of a armor cane.this should kill a Drake almost 10 for 10 and peeps will be stupid and fight it more often because they heard Pest sucked for so long. This guy is right. Then again a tempest is just an oversized BC these days. Not so awesome against other BS but amazing vs other BC. Eats them alive ~~ Hyey**
Das Governator The Republican Party	Posted - 2010.08.28 17:03:00 - [27] Edited by: Das Governator on 28/08/2010 17:05:45 Did any of you read my posts? I did the math, and the updated phoon fit kills the beefiest of drakes in 105 seconds or less and outlasts those HAM drakes by a full minute. But if the phoon just doesn't scare you, I'm cool with that. edit: Kail Storm, for normal PvP I totally agree with you. The pest is one of my favorite ships, and I use almost exactly the fit you posted.
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.28 19:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Das Governator Edited by: Das Governator on 28/08/2010 17:05:45 Did any of you read my posts? I did the math, and the updated phoon fit kills the beefiest of drakes in 105 seconds or less and outlasts those HAM drakes by a full minute. But if the phoon just doesn't scare you, I'm cool with that. edit: Kail Storm, for normal PvP I totally agree with you. The pest is one of my favorite ships, and I use almost exactly the fit you posted. I read the post you wrote but at the time it was before you had done the math. I dont know why it didnt post till 16 hrs later ...LOL Anyways I just think Nuets are more value`d in this situation than Paper DPS . Wile the Phoon looks good its 16km Range isnt enough in alot of situations, esp since the guy might undock 30km away and your plated phoon isnt fast enough to cath the Drake with if it has a MWD. So Plated phoon going 1k M/S with a 15km Range vs a 1200 M/S Pest with 24km Nuet and 33km Gun range Temp wins everytime. Infact if I had to gank Drakes it would be with 5 torp 2 Heavy Nuet 1 Med Nuet Setup. And If I got in any trouble I`d use Med ECM drones. -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.28 19:09:00 - [29] Originally by: Kail Storm I read the post you wrote but at the time it was before you had done the math. I dont know why it didnt post till 16 hrs later ...LOL Anyways I just think Nuets are more value`d in this situation than Paper DPS . Wile the Phoon looks good its 16km Range isnt enough in alot of situations, esp since the guy might undock 30km away and your plated phoon isnt fast enough to cath the Drake with if it has a MWD. So Plated phoon going 1k M/S with a 15km Range vs a 1200 M/S Pest with 24km Nuet and 33km Gun range Temp wins everytime. Infact if I had to gank Drakes it would be with 5 torp 2 Heavy Nuet 1 Med Nuet Setup. And If I got in any trouble I`d use Med ECM drones. Neutralizers, while nice in shutting down a Drake's MWD and tackle (which gives you the advantage) aren't a huge advantage when it comes to shutting down hardeners. Hardeners still give a rather large bonus when they're off, assuming you're like me and have the 4 specializations to level 5.
Asuze	Posted - 2010.08.28 19:21:00 - [30] Edited by: Asuze on 28/08/2010 19:22:30 So funny to see hot discussion on battleship fits to gank one poor caldari BC Srsly, stop failing and start using neuts on your BCs And err, if I see you undock typhoon vs drake, I just undock navy scorp?

Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2010.08.28 19:48:00 - [31] Originally by: Nyveg Let us assume you have one char. And you have a fairly to strongly tanked Drake. Post Ships and fits to get him before the aggresion timer runs out 1vs1. GL My Cane had no problems against a lol tanked Drake last I tried. Stop whining like a little *****.
I likegirls Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.28 19:49:00 - [32] Edited by: I likegirls on 28/08/2010 19:53:27 Originally by: Liang Nuren Tippia, I'd assume: Drake 7x HML II 3x Extender II, 2x DG Invuln, Pith A-Type EM 3x PDU II, DC II 3x CDFE II Good PVP fit Drake amirite? I bet that thing would end up with 130-140k EHP. -Liang I am pretty sure a drake can get above 140k ehp... shield implants and why only a-type em? and to the author guy. Drakes do not have good cap regen generally and should not. so they get neuted fairly easily. and since most run active hardeners they will start to shut off on some cycles. and when they are down... you could easily break there passive recharge. and to the person who suggested all of the super carriers.... he is talking about aggression timers. so it is most likely high sec unless he is really that afraid of gate guns.
Thorian Baalnorn	Posted - 2010.08.28 20:22:00 - [33] Just worry about tank........ [Drake, New Setup 2] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I 155k EHP no implants.168k with a slave set and hardwiring. CN Fit [Drake, New Setup 2] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field Large Shield Extender II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I 186k w/o implants 200k w/ implants. --------------------------------------- Pimp Fit: [Drake, New Setup 2] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Estamel's Modified Photon Scattering Field Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field Large Shield Extender II Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Medium Core Defence Field Extender II 314k EHP 335k with implants...... and while i didnt do this on the others, overloaded with implants 542k EHP and 1600 DPS omni tanked. All you have to do to kill a drake is: 1)Keep it pointed 2) Out DPS its tank 3) Out tank its DPS. On a buffer tanked drake that is not hard. Unless it is officer fitted of course.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.28 21:30:00 - [34] Why the hell are you engaging a carebear fitted drake on station? The answer is don't try. All these people trying to theorycraft their way to EFT Epeen Stardom are why this section of the forums are filled with so much crap. Even a supercarrier couldn't do it without web and target painter [I know because I have actually been hit by supercaps in a BC] Wait until he crosses a gate and catch him there. Or you can just pick a better target to grief.
I likegirls Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.28 22:14:00 - [35] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Why the hell are you engaging a carebear fitted drake on station? The answer is don't try. All these people trying to theorycraft their way to EFT Epeen Stardom are why this section of the forums are filled with so much crap. Even a supercarrier couldn't do it without web and target painter [I know because I have actually been hit by supercaps in a BC] Wait until he crosses a gate and catch him there. Or you can just pick a better target to grief. But a super carrier can break a drakes tank easily.
Actionbastrd	Posted - 2010.08.31 00:26:00 - [36] It's funny seeing people put -name at the end of their post like we can't tell who's posting by looking at their name below their portrait. Anyways, carry on.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.31 03:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Actionbastrd It's funny seeing people put -name at the end of their post like we can't tell who's posting by looking at their name below their portrait. Anyways, carry on. I know!! It's almost as stupid as the "Eve Online" in the upper left hand corner of this very website. As if we wouldn't know what website we were at by looking at the address bar! -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Reima Antero	Posted - 2010.08.31 07:59:00 - [38] just kite him to death, its annoying if your flying a ham drake :D
Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.31 08:09:00 - [39] Originally by: Reima Antero just kite him to death, its annoying if your flying a ham drake :D A HAM Drake pilot would be a fool to not carry Javelins in his or her cargohold.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.08.31 08:22:00 - [40] Edited by: Moose Burger on 31/08/2010 08:22:49 then you meet the nano HM drakes. which will kite you.....except better o.O /types more theoratical solution /wins eve



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