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Bullz3y3 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2012.07.27 20:46:00 - [1] - Quote I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!!
Dusenman Krait Corp Fidelas Constans 18	Posted - 2012.07.27 20:48:00 - [2] - Quote When every useable system has 25 people in it at all times, then yes eve will need more space. But there are 100's of systems that never get mined, rats that live on. Until that happens there is just no need for more space. GM Homonoia: In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total *.
Zoe Athame Aliastra Gallente Federation 137	Posted - 2012.07.27 20:51:00 - [3] - Quote EVE is actually too big at the moment. I'm sure if 20% of the systems just disappeared overnight, nobody would miss them.
Blane Xero The Firestorm Cartel 35	Posted - 2012.07.27 20:52:00 - [4] - Quote Zoe Athame wrote: EVE is actually too big at the moment. I'm sure if 20% of the players just disappeared overnight, nobody would miss them. Fixed. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008. Laying claim to Out of Pod Experience since 2007, plain and simple. Keep the trash out of Out Of Pod Experience, If it's EVE Related or deserves a Lock, it does not belong here.
Jax Bederen Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 119	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:03:00 - [5] - Quote Blane Xero wrote: Zoe Athame wrote: EVE is actually too big at the moment. I'm sure if 20% of the players just disappeared overnight, nobody would miss them. Fixed. CCP might, you know, making a living and all that.
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 570	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:12:00 - [6] - Quote Go back to flying a cruiser
Nikolai Dostoyevski Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:23:00 - [7] - Quote Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! The problem isn't the size of the universe. The problem is how easy it is to jump from one place to another. Far too easy to exert control over a wide area of space with all the supers, jump freighters and jump gates.
Dave stark Bombardier Inc 295	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:27:00 - [8] - Quote Dusenman wrote: When every useable system has 25 people in it at all times, then yes eve will need more space. But there are 100's of systems that never get mined, rats that live on. Until that happens there is just no need for more space. that's because 100s of systems have ** belt ores, and ** ratting sites so nobody wants to go there. until they suck less wang than a hooker on the day the soldiers come home they will continue to be empty. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2310	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:27:00 - [9] - Quote Nikolai Dostoyevski wrote: Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! The problem isn't the size of the universe. The problem is how easy it is to jump from one place to another. Far too easy to exert control over a wide area of space with all the supers, jump freighters and jump gates. On the nose. Also, the highway system could stand to be looked at again. It is perhaps a bit too efficient in Empire. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Rain King Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 23	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:53:00 - [10] - Quote Blane Xero wrote: Zoe Athame wrote: EVE is actually too big at the moment. I'm sure if 20% of the players just disappeared overnight, nobody would miss them. Fixed. I support this product/service. Also, Dave said wang.
MotherMoon Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1044	Posted - 2012.07.27 21:58:00 - [11] - Quote so wait, it was big enough but now it's too small? what made it feel smaller? we should address that before expanding the game map and it's not actually making the game feel bigger due to what changed. i could said why i feel that way, but I'm interested in what the OP has to say. how did the game change to make space feel so small. for you. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Soundwave Plays Diablo Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:02:00 - [12] - Quote Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! New Eden is either the same size or larger than when you are making your comparison. 1/10 for soliciting replies.
MaCoola RSK. Curbstomp.. 19	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:30:00 - [13] - Quote [.[/quote]that's because 100s of systems have ** belt ores, and ** ratting sites so nobody wants to go there. until they suck less wang than a hooker on the day the soldiers come home they will continue to be empty.[/quote] ahahahahhahahaha!!!rofl. Funniest thing I have read on the forums in a long time. And I agree 100% +10 good sir
Kyra Yaken State War Academy Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:43:00 - [14] - Quote I think OP was refering to increase hisec space
Lexmana 615	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:52:00 - [15] - Quote Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! It is like when you go back to your old school that you havent seen in decades. It sure looks smaller than it used to because you have changed. The school is the same.
Virgil Travis GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated 492	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:54:00 - [16] - Quote Two options: 1: It shrank in the wash 2: Your arse has gotten bigger Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Arkon Olacar Imperial Guardians Tribal Band 103	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:56:00 - [17] - Quote Nikolai Dostoyevski wrote: Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! The problem isn't the size of the universe. The problem is how easy it is to jump from one place to another. Far too easy to exert control over a wide area of space with all the supers, jump freighters and jump gates. This is just typical highsec pubbie bullcrap. You clearly have no idea how much effort actually goes into logistics setups and sov infrastructure, it is not just some "I-win" butan you push every now and again. Most alliances who can hold onto sov have incredible people who can organise this crap, but just because exceptional people get involved in sov infrastructure doesn't make it too easy or overpowered. "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012 Umad forum warriors?
Lilith Amunet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.07.27 22:59:00 - [18] - Quote Is this a stealth Nerf-capitals thread?
Bullz3y3 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2012.07.28 03:52:00 - [19] - Quote I guess what I miss is the feeling of exploration. It sure wasn't the loots or bounties at the time. Knowing that there most likely was no one around except our little group.
Grumpymunky Super Monkey Tribe of Danger 416	Posted - 2012.07.28 05:38:00 - [20] - Quote World's still the same. There's just less in it. Post with your monkey.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4368	Posted - 2012.07.28 06:28:00 - [21] - Quote Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! Agreed, although maybe not in the way that you're thinking of https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1123942#post1123942 Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Shizuken Venerated Stars 77	Posted - 2012.07.28 06:41:00 - [22] - Quote Nikolai Dostoyevski wrote: Bullz3y3 wrote: I remember in my first corp getting our cruisers and heading way out west. How it took forever to reach the edge. Then ratting till our ammo was gone and holds were full of loot. Then how it took forever to get home hoping we didn't run into anyone. Make eve bigger again!!!! The problem isn't the size of the universe. The problem is how easy it is to jump from one place to another. Far too easy to exert control over a wide area of space with all the supers, jump freighters and jump gates. Indeed. The gates need to disappear, and the galaxy needs to increase by 2-10 times...
Kheeria Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension 0	Posted - 2012.07.28 06:55:00 - [23] - Quote I can to some degree understand that the universe of eve has become smaller. If you go into help or the rookie channel you'll see new players whining about going 2-3 jumps for a mission and when you first start playing the universe does feel huge, though after a while you get used to going a few jumps and the universe "shrinks". Though making it bigger isn't the solution, the game has a lot of "problems" that needs to be fixed long before we expand it in size.
andaries shadow Universal OmniTech Limited 0	Posted - 2012.07.28 08:19:00 - [24] - Quote The funny part about this thread is a section of eve is closed off and no one seems to notice. Its called the Jove Empire.
Horus V 10	Posted - 2012.07.28 09:00:00 - [25] - Quote Definitelly +1 There is nothing to explore, nothing new to see for years. Last Eve Online expansion - Apocrypha 2009. I know that fixing the game is important but I also know that people are bored for seeing that the game is like closed box with no hope of finding new interesting space with new interesting content. Even adding more virigin nullsec space on the other side of wh chain would be something.
Kunming CyberShield Inc ROMANIAN-LEGION 42	Posted - 2012.07.28 10:08:00 - [26] - Quote TLDR: Jump bridges, Jump freighters, carriers, titan bridges, Warp to 0, Technetium.... Carriers & Jump Freighters Carriers and JFs make industry in 0.0 completely redundant as everything except Super Caps can be produced in the safety of 0.0 and transported risk free to 0.0. TBH I'm an underdog in 0.0 and removing carriers would mess me up royally since I got no industry going on, BUT I have played and survived when there weren't even player build stations or POS so for the good of EVE I wouldn't ***** about it. Jump Bridges These allow blobs to move around with little coordination and effort, practically when an alliance gets to the point of "critical mass" it can just conquer region after region and hold control of it via JB networks. This is why we don't see the colorful maps of the past and only have like 3-4 power blocks that are in mutual agreement on resource distribution. JBs killed 0.0 drama, I rather miss it! Titan Bridges One word: Hot-drop! Yes it is pretty impossible now to wage guerrilla warfare so your only hope in 0.0 is either run and hide or join a blob. Warp To 0 When the problem with BMs arose and was being debated this was probably the worst solution CCP chose. The better solution would have been preventing warping to a gate within 10-15km. If you wanna slip past a gate camp then u would use a fast ship, or a cloak, besides more than half of ships get killed on the inbound gate not the outbound, if you"re lazy enough to scan a gate before warping to it you deserve to be toasted. Warp to 0 is another factor that makes EVE feel too small. Technetium It could have been anything; bottleneck resources being distributed severely uneven makes majority of the regions not worth fighting for. In the end these regions are filled with renter alliances and suppressed with the help of JB networks. The inhabitants of inferior regions simply cant hold up to the arms race of tech holders. On the other hand, increasing the size of the universe by adding more regions and systems wont solve anything, neither will adding separate regions accessible over WHs only, that will only split the universe and make EVE feel sharded.

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