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InsertFunnyNameHere
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:18:00 -
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lasers ganking lasers beeing tanked for lasers
possible? suggestions? should i get my lazy ass to another region? and still i would need some fitting/ship suggestions :v
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 02/09/2010 17:33:08 Armegddon is Popular
Highs 7 Duel Pulse Lasers(Meta 4 or Tech 2) 1 Large Nuet
Mids Heavy Cap Boost Warp Disrupter 2 100mn Afterburner
Lows 3 1600mm Plates 2 EANM 2 1 DCU 2 3 Heat Sink 2
Drones 5 Heavies
You will Probably want to go to Caldari Space, There Ships are Sheild Tanked. Besides that the Nuet should shut down any mission tank.
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Dusica
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:48:00 -
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armagedon is ok but both apoc and abadon are better , if you have m isk to invest go for navy apoc mega pulses Eternal Will. |
Henri Rearden
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.02 18:35:00 -
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I think you might get more responses if you state what you want in an actual language rather than gibberish. Are you asking for a ship which is gank-heavy for use in missions in Amarr space, or are you asking for a ship with which to gank those running missions in Amarr space? If the former, the Abbadon is typically the T1 gank missioner if fit with tachs and a cap booster. If the latter, I would not suggest using lasers against pve ships tanked against lasers. You're better off with an Em/Therm tank and Exp/Kin gank, as you might find in an armor-tanked minmatar ship.
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Telvani
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Posted - 2010.09.02 21:41:00 -
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Stanard apoc fit packs full gank already
8X MP II MF/scorch
AB / CR II CR II TC II (optimal)
3X HS II 1 X LAR II 3 X hard
2 X Aux nano I, 1 X CCC I
5 med, 5 light
Navy apoc same but with 4th HS / TE / hard. Faction to taste. Other fits will give more paper-DPS but this can apply it out to 80-90Km and doesnt have the abbaddon's cap issues.
700-850 DPS MF 25Km 600ish DPS scorch 80Km |
Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.09.02 21:53:00 -
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I if you're stuck with Amarr ships and insistant on staying in Amarr, why not try something like the Autocannon Veng or HAM Sacri?
At least then you get to choose your damage type.
If you're reading this, you've read too far and now you're on my sig. Concentrate on what I said before you got to this bit. Ok? |
Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 03/09/2010 02:30:04
Originally by: Telvani Stanard apoc fit packs full gank already
8X MP II MF/scorch
AB / CR II CR II TC II (optimal)
3X HS II 1 X LAR II 3 X hard
2 X Aux nano I, 1 X CCC I
5 med, 5 light
Navy apoc same but with 4th HS / TE / hard. Faction to taste. Other fits will give more paper-DPS but this can apply it out to 80-90Km and doesnt have the abbaddon's cap issues.
700-850 DPS MF 25Km 600ish DPS scorch 80Km
Awsome I love ganking mission runners without a point.
Almost as much as I enjoy reading the OP!
Unless your talking about ganking as in firepower to complete Missions, then call it by it's proper name Carebear Stare! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
InsertFunnyNameHere
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Posted - 2010.09.03 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:45:36 Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:35:50
Originally by: Ultim8Evil I if you're stuck with Amarr ships and insistant on staying in Amarr, why not try something like the Autocannon Veng or HAM Sacri?
At least then you get to choose your damage type.
well i am stuck with amarr ships, but i can use all of them+Hams so a sacri would be possible and i am sure there are nice ham sacri fittings out there, but i am not really familiar with this ship yet ~ taking all suggestions i can get for a nice little hamsacri
edit: to end any confusion, its all about ganking missionrunners |
SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.03 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 10:10:13 Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:45:36 Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 09:35:50
Originally by: Ultim8Evil I if you're stuck with Amarr ships and insistant on staying in Amarr, why not try something like the Autocannon Veng or HAM Sacri?
At least then you get to choose your damage type.
well i am stuck with amarr ships, but i can use all of them+Hams so a sacri would be possible and i am sure there are nice ham sacri fittings out there, but i am not really familiar with this ship yet ~ taking all suggestions i can get for a nice little hamsacri - also, a legion seems interessting
edit: to end any confusion, its all about ganking missionrunners
Ganking as in in-corp or canflipped ganking or ganking as in killfast b4 concord raeps yuor faic? __________________________________________________
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David Yanakov
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2010.09.03 12:32:00 -
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For suicide ganking the geddon in the first reply works quite well. If you're looking to hunt war targets, the sacrilege works. It has enough tank to handle anything a few PvE fit ships can put out, the speed to run down battleships and the fact it uses missiles means you can pick your damage type to be the opposite of whatever the rat type is.
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LiNuXb0y
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2010.09.03 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 02/09/2010 17:33:08 Armegddon is Popular
Highs 7 Duel Pulse Lasers(Meta 4 or Tech 2) 1 Large Nuet
Mids Heavy Cap Boost Warp Disrupter 2 100mn Afterburner
Lows 3 1600mm Plates 2 EANM 2 1 DCU 2 3 Heat Sink 2
Drones 5 Heavies
You will Probably want to go to Caldari Space, There Ships are Sheild Tanked. Besides that the Nuet should shut down any mission tank.
WTB Gedon with 9 lows
Something like this will do for a Gedon:
[Armageddon, pvp copy 1] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Damage Control II
100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x4 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x4
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.03 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 03/09/2010 13:10:49
Originally by: LiNuXb0y
WTB Gedon with 9 lows
You mean yours doesn't have nine lows!
I bet you buy off the market brand ships
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InsertFunnyNameHere
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 14:06:02 Edited by: InsertFunnyNameHere on 03/09/2010 14:03:34 ganking as in war targets/can flipped ganking and mission lootsteal-ganking ~me beeing the one that steals and hopes for some aggressive actions~ (or however you want to call the last version)
iŠve got an idea about a geedon now, anyone wanna provide some legion/sacri fittings? or any other amarr ship ;)
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BuckStrider
Fleem Co
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere
i thought about a dual rep sacri but i keep reading that it might get problems with getting alphaed due to the low buffer, on the other side the plated sacri seems to be a BC in a t2 hull
edit: before the question comes up: yes empire.
Sac sucks for three reasons: 1) You either fit it for pure gank or pure tank, there is no middle ground....If you go gank, you have crap ehp but good dps...If you go tank, you have crap dps but a good tank
2) HAM range...You'll find this very annoying
3) Price just isnt worth it
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InsertFunnyNameHere
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Posted - 2010.09.04 00:23:00 -
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so, how about a ham legion? |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.04 00:29:00 -
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Do it in an AB Crusader. Seriously!
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.04 01:28:00 -
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Suiciding or aggro'd?
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2010.09.04 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere
i thought about a dual rep sacri but i keep reading that it might get problems with getting alphaed due to the low buffer, on the other side the plated sacri seems to be a BC in a t2 hull
edit: before the question comes up: yes empire.
Sac sucks for three reasons: 1) You either fit it for pure gank or pure tank, there is no middle ground....If you go gank, you have crap ehp but good dps...If you go tank, you have crap dps but a good tank
2) HAM range...You'll find this very annoying
3) Price just isnt worth it
1)Lows: 2 medium reps, DC, EANM, Faction Damage mode = = 500dps tank with about 500dps. Choose your damage type and you will never have a problem with missioners.
2) HAM range? With good skills you can hit past 20k. With no skills, you can hit at 10. If you can't get in that close in a cruiser, you fail.
3)For ships, you get what you put into it. If you want to be a cheap bastard, you could fly kestrels all day. Just don't be upset when you don't get much out of it. ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry |
RentableMuffin
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Posted - 2010.09.04 06:38:00 -
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I failed to gank a cnr with a geddon once, forgot to trimark it and only had t1 crystals
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Weeka
GET A JOB
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Posted - 2010.09.04 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Terra Mikael 1)Lows: 2 medium reps, DC, EANM, Faction Damage mode = = 500dps tank with about 500dps.
According to eft thats 418 dps (with rage) and 345 dps tank, max skills
Just saying
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.09.04 15:20:00 -
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Most ppl would use a Hurricane to gank those MR but you want Amarr ships so...
[Harbinger-MR Gank]
Lows: Damage Control II 1600 RRT plate X2 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrain II X2 Heat Sink II Meds: Medium Capacitor Booster II with 800 size cap boosters Best named AB Best named warp disruptor Best named Web Highs: X6 Focused Medium Pulse laser II X2 Medium Neuts
And 5 T2 Med Drones
The Neuts are very important so they can not use there active tank . Which then makes the Cap boosters very important to.
Have fun Killing the MR
Scorpionidae
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InsertFunnyNameHere
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:00:00 -
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2x EANM ?
that would require a 5% implant, i guess 1 eanm and 1 adaptive nano plating II will work too
also, are there no usefull legion fits (lasers/hams) for MR ganks? D: |
Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere 2x EANM ?
that would require a 5% implant, i guess 1 eanm and 1 adaptive nano plating II will work too
Are you talking about the fit I posted because you need no Implants for that.
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2010.09.04 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Weeka
Originally by: Terra Mikael 1)Lows: 2 medium reps, DC, EANM, Faction Damage mode = = 500dps tank with about 500dps.
According to eft thats 418 dps (with rage) and 345 dps tank, max skills
Just saying
There is still rigs and drones. and i said about 500dps. not precisely 500dps.
just saying...blow me. ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry |
InsertFunnyNameHere
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Posted - 2010.09.04 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpionidae
Originally by: InsertFunnyNameHere 2x EANM ?
that would require a 5% implant, i guess 1 eanm and 1 adaptive nano plating II will work too
Are you talking about the fit I posted because you need no Implants for that.
my bad, stupid me efted with a named mwd ~.~ |
andeira
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Posted - 2010.09.05 00:37:00 -
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cause I just LOVE missile ships I made a sacri fit for you
[Sacrilege, mission runner killer] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Ballistic Control System II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
409 DPS with rage missiles (selectable damage type FTW) 579 m/s so run around those BS's capstable when neut is off or one of the reps is off 440 DPS omnitank with thermal lowest resist at 71% sigradius of 182 wich is nice combined with the speed you probably only need 1 repper anyway
and ofcourse you can add 15 m3 of drones wathever you like
this probably is not the most efficient ship to kill mission runners but to me it seems to be the most fun one to use
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Weeka
GET A JOB
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Posted - 2010.09.05 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Terra Mikael I dunno what to say. Learn2EFT?
You're right, you really don't know what to say.
So how about you admit you were wrong, otherwise I suggest you present an actual fitting that shows what you claim, and what at the moment 3 people here dispute.
Sag can be fitted to tank or to gank, not both, and certainly not to the extend you claim.
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Poeser Rufus
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Posted - 2010.09.05 13:59:00 -
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440 tank 587 dps, almost 500/500
[Sacrilege, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Armor Thermic Hardener II Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Cap Recharger II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
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