Originally by: krilliante

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Love this game, I mean I really do, but jesus...[......]

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.

Originally by: CCP Tuxford

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my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.

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Originally by: krilliante

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Just posting in the vauge hope someone in CCP cares ..:P

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Originally by: zus

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Did ever all this 250 fleet members participate in the EVE test server mass test to help the ccp employs working on the server test and pinpoint loge causing objects? Most of the time I see 60 to 140 participating, why you thing they do this! Stop complaining and encourage your friends to participate.

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To Cipher Jones, no idea what your going on about , but you sould like an ASS....and kinda amusing

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Originally by: Zeuth Proxy

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Originally by: zus

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Did ever all this 250 fleet members participate in the EVE test server mass test to help the ccp employs working on the server test and pinpoint loge causing objects? Most of the time I see 60 to 140 participating, why you thing they do this! Stop complaining and encourage your friends to participate.

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While I do believe that mass testing isn't a bad idea however there are many flaws in your statement aswell as the mass testing itself.

So what you are saying is that him and his mates shouldn't actually play the game and just beta test?

The results released by CCP haven't been that great in past tests aswell as there hasn't been much progress from what the general player base is experiencing day to day. So its getting to the point of if these tests are even worth it?

Also there is alot of TZ issues when it comes to the tests but thats something I think will always be a issue.

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Originally by: Oorestes

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I don't pretend to understand all of the issues many of the long time players have with CCP. I can completely sympathize and empathize with he frustration that large fleet lag might be causing. I haven't participated in any large fleet battles yet nor have I experienced any lag at all since I started playing.

I understand that's because I haven't spent a lot of time doing the things that are most likely to cause lag. So I can totally understand why people who have played for years would be particularly upset about it but from a relatively new player perspective, it's like people are talking about a completely different company than the one I have seen since beginning my first account a few months ago.

In the past few weeks, I have read tons of Dev posts on the forums addressing player concerns about CCP priorities. I have read, sometimes painfully, volumes of blogs which speak specifically to the Eve player community and on a very technical level about specific steps that are being taken NOW to address ability lag, fleet lag, etc.

Less than 24 hours ago there was a mass test in Jita on the live server that pushed the hardware nearly to it's limits and was very fun to participate in. This means a few people had to get out of bed, on what I assume would have been a day off for them (could be wrong here but even if I am somebody at CCP still had to dedicate a portion of their day to make this happen)and performed whatever magic it is that server guys, devs, designers etc. do and all in an effort to decrease lag and increase our pleasure in the game.

So when I read some of these CCP doesn't care about lag posts I am conflicted. On the one hand I feel bad for the people who are obviously not making the problem up but on the other, I see a company that actually is trying to fix things and that is impressive to me. What impresses me even more is the direct, proverbial eye to eye contact CCP exhibits when dealing with its player base.

Those blogs were no joke. Some of the things that were covered in those blogs were quite educational and kudos to every individual dev that took the extra time to walk us, the players, through your workday step by step. I've never seen anything like that in any game I've ever played and I've been a PC gamer since the Commodore 64.

Now I realize much of this only happened following the whole debacle after the last CCP/CSM meeting and the ensuing threadnaughts about priorities. I was here for all of that and followed it quite closely and what happened was amazing. The players rose up and forced CCP to notice them. If not for that, none of this would be getting done now, I understand that, don't get me wrong. You all should be proud of yourselves. You stood up for what you knew was right and you have effected positive change on the entire player base. For that I say "thank you." and I mean it wholeheartedly but it seems for some people, no matter what CCP does, it will never be enough.

Can't we give them a few points for trying?

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Originally by: Zeuth Proxy

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Welcome to EvE Online.

Lag is not a bug, its a feature to promote small gang warfare.

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Originally by: Ryhss

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Originally by: Zeuth Proxy

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Welcome to EvE Online.

Lag is not a bug, its a feature to promote small gang warfare.

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Originally by: Oorestes

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I don't pretend to understand all of the issues many of the long time players have with CCP. I can completely sympathize and empathize with he frustration that large fleet lag might be causing. I haven't participated in any large fleet battles yet nor have I experienced any lag at all since I started playing.

I understand that's because I haven't spent a lot of time doing the things that are most likely to cause lag. So I can totally understand why people who have played for years would be particularly upset about it but from a relatively new player perspective, it's like people are talking about a completely different company than the one I have seen since beginning my first account a few months ago.

In the past few weeks, I have read tons of Dev posts on the forums addressing player concerns about CCP priorities. I have read, sometimes painfully, volumes of blogs which speak specifically to the Eve player community and on a very technical level about specific steps that are being taken NOW to address ability lag, fleet lag, etc.

Less than 24 hours ago there was a mass test in Jita on the live server that pushed the hardware nearly to it's limits and was very fun to participate in. This means a few people had to get out of bed, on what I assume would have been a day off for them (could be wrong here but even if I am somebody at CCP still had to dedicate a portion of their day to make this happen)and performed whatever magic it is that server guys, devs, designers etc. do and all in an effort to decrease lag and increase our pleasure in the game.

So when I read some of these CCP doesn't care about lag posts I am conflicted. On the one hand I feel bad for the people who are obviously not making the problem up but on the other, I see a company that actually is trying to fix things and that is impressive to me. What impresses me even more is the direct, proverbial eye to eye contact CCP exhibits when dealing with its player base.

Those blogs were no joke. Some of the things that were covered in those blogs were quite educational and kudos to every individual dev that took the extra time to walk us, the players, through your workday step by step. I've never seen anything like that in any game I've ever played and I've been a PC gamer since the Commodore 64.

Now I realize much of this only happened following the whole debacle after the last CCP/CSM meeting and the ensuing threadnaughts about priorities. I was here for all of that and followed it quite closely and what happened was amazing. The players rose up and forced CCP to notice them. If not for that, none of this would be getting done now, I understand that, don't get me wrong. You all should be proud of yourselves. You stood up for what you knew was right and you have effected positive change on the entire player base. For that I say "thank you." and I mean it wholeheartedly but it seems for some people, no matter what CCP does, it will never be enough.

Can't we give them a few points for trying?

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Originally by: Camios

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Has the Fleet Fight Notification Form been filled in?

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Originally by: Camios

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Has the Fleet Fight Notification Form been filled in?

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Originally by: Oorestes

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So we expect this to be fixed via magic? Overnight?

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