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Major Failsauce	Posted - 2010.09.05 19:21:00 - [1] c/d ? Also... with 1600+ in local it's becomming increasingly difficult to target and show info on any character in the member list when it's constantly changing. A search filter on the member list would be awesome...

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.05 19:40:00 - [2] It's part of the push Jita to it's limits. The news article can be found here. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.09.05 19:45:00 - [3] CCP Adida in fail to read thread before replying shocker. ~
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.09.05 20:42:00 - [4] Not really, the OP was complaining about the population in Jita right now... and that it was hard to target people on the overview with that much traffic. CCP Adida explained why Jita traffic is soaring at the moment. I will do my part and point out that holding CTRL freezes the overview to facilitate targeting. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:09:00 - [5] àbut let's face it: Jita local is useless even when there's only 10ppl in it. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:13:00 - [6] ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Menkala	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:17:00 - [7] Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Taint the quality of the spam thats the matter - its the list. Ever tried tracking wartargets in Jita? Have to scroll through the entire list to see if anyones in there. Then scroll entire list at 4-4 to see who's docked. Taint fun. Filter on the local list/station list would be awesome kthxbye! Hm. To the CSM!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Menkala Filter on the local list/station list would be awesome kthxbye! No. The complete removal of local as an intel tool would be awesome. Only question is what should be added to replace it. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Tippia àbut let's face it: Jita local is useless even when there's only 10ppl in it. Is that possible?
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:28:00 - [10] I wouldnt mind an "ignore local" switch so I could turn it off if I wanted to
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Rainus Max I wouldnt mind an "ignore local" switch so I could turn it off if I wanted to Minimize button. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Rainus Max I wouldnt mind an "ignore local" switch so I could turn it off if I wanted to Theres this little icon in the top right corner it looks like a: - when you press this little icon the window you have open disappears into a little flat icon at bottom of your screen.
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Rainus Max I wouldnt mind an "ignore local" switch so I could turn it off if I wanted to Minimize button. That doesn't really work if you need to keep an eye on local for war targets.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:44:00 - [14] You can always just drag the text/list separator as far to the left as it will go. What's left is a column of jumbled characters that you couldn't read even if you wanted to. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:44:00 - [15] Originally by: Rainus Max Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Rainus Max I wouldnt mind an "ignore local" switch so I could turn it off if I wanted to Minimize button. That doesn't really work if you need to keep an eye on local for war targets. So how would a ignore local button help then? Oh you want an ignore local except war targets button. Good luck with that.
Alec Freeman Minmatar Adventurers Matari Visionary Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.06 00:52:00 - [16] Edited by: Alec Freeman on 06/09/2010 00:53:20 Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Well you can really... make it like the forums people can only message every 60-120 seconds. Would cut out spammers and make casual chit chat in trade hub local a lot less (mayby make it only jita as its not needed that much elswere) EDIT: Herpderp that fixxed QUANTITY... spose for the Quality you just need to have a CPP member monitering it (not going to happen the suicide rate of employees would be too high)
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.06 01:13:00 - [17] ITT: WHAAAAAAA! I WAZ ONRY ABIL TO SPAM 490 SCAM CONTRAKS PER MINIT INSTEAD OF 500!!!!!!!111111111. Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.09.06 01:14:00 - [18] Why on New Eden would you even have jita local open? -- "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -John Wooden
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.06 01:19:00 - [19] Originally by: Psychotic Maniac Why on New Eden would you even have jita local open? Some of the best deals I have ever traded originated in jita local. Pro-tip: Not everything is what it seems at first glance. Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.06 01:37:00 - [20] I put all my best deals in jita local
KaarBaak Minmatar Hell's Librarians Imperium Directive	Posted - 2010.09.06 01:42:00 - [21] Might be easier to put a filter on buddylist/watchlist (All/Region/Const/System/Station) KB =vinur allra manna MetaGaming
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.09.06 01:58:00 - [22] Would it make a difference if local could be filtered/searched? -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.09.06 02:08:00 - [23] Thanks for the test CCP, I made billions scamming yesterday due to how many were hanging around. However due to school being busy I'm quitting EVE and giving away all my ISK. Just send me ISK and I'll send triple the amount back!
hydlided	Posted - 2010.09.06 02:37:00 - [24] Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Turn Jita into 0.0 space and watch what happends to Jita Local chatter :)
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.09.06 04:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Major Failsauce c/d ? Also... with 1600+ in local it's becoming increasingly difficult to target and show info on any character in the member list when it's constantly changing. A search filter on the member list would be awesome... Fostering Local as Intel Tool? No! @CCP Think of something new.. we're stuck with this PITA since years now. We need a new intel-system that incorporates: - Local - D-Scan - Probe-Scan - Overview - Selected Items View Make it. Pls.
Kalasano Kamo Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 06:42:00 - [26] I just got 20mil from begging in Jita, so I have no idea why you would think it useless. --------------
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:04:00 - [27] Originally by: Tres Farmer Fostering Local as Intel Tool? No! Fostering the ability to ignore scammers and ISK sellers without having to spend all day adding entries to your block list? Yes please! Will delayed local stop scammers and ISK sellers spamming local? No. Will filtering local interfere with any other plans CCP might have to prevent local being used as an intel tool (or a means for macro ratters to trigger an automatic docking)? No. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
MoeJoe Green Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:09:00 - [28] Add the option to remove the portrait from chat windows, hence minimize every characters row to a minium. The text, and a icon for blue/red whatever.
andeira	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:50:00 - [29] Originally by: MoeJoe Green Add the option to remove the portrait from chat windows, hence minimize every characters row to a minium. The text, and a icon for blue/red whatever. it is already possible to show only text. at the top of chat window can't make screenshot of it atm but when I can I'll post one ----------------------------------------- Tengu's: is there anything they can't do?
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:52:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. You could require both a personality and sobriety test on startup of the EVE client? I like me.
Trebor Daehdoow	Posted - 2010.09.06 09:47:00 - [31] Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Might I humbly suggest that you implement a tarpit on local in systems where local is getting a lot of message traffic. It would not eliminate the spam, but it would improve the S/N ratio. tarpit tl;dr : the more someone posts, the longer the delay before you can post again. Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician Spending Hours blogging the Minutes
pipvac Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.06 10:17:00 - [32] Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. You could require both a personality and sobriety test on startup of the EVE client? This would prevent CCP's target audience from logging in. Desperately seeking originality since the first "can I have your stuff" since 2003.
DuKackBoon	Posted - 2010.09.06 11:34:00 - [33] @OP: CCP knows the Jita local is full of spam. I shall quote CCP Mindstar here: "[CCP Mindstar] > holy spam batman!"
Quetazal Gallente Clann Fian Retribution.	Posted - 2010.09.06 11:52:00 - [34] or how about; A small server side algorithm that detects macroing spammers by looking at the identical time between posts then automatically bans the account for 3 days for voilation of TOS after 10 or 20 messages? I came, I saw, I downloaded.
Dariah Stardweller Gallente Gung-Ho	Posted - 2010.09.06 12:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Menkala Ever tried tracking wartargets in Jita? I have, it sucks :D Inappropriate signature removed. Zymurgist
Daniel Jackson Caldari Planet Watchers	Posted - 2010.09.06 13:53:00 - [36] Originally by: hydlided Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Turn Jita into 0.0 space and watch what happends to Jita Local chatter :) the spammers in jita are actualy docked so that woudent do any thing to the spam which is the only annoying thign in jita, same with the character list about 80 - 95% of jita is in station sooo ya ___
MoeJoe Green Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.09.06 17:33:00 - [37] Edited by: MoeJoe Green on 06/09/2010 17:34:18 Originally by: andeira Originally by: MoeJoe Green Add the option to remove the portrait from chat windows, hence minimize every characters row to a minium. The text, and a icon for blue/red whatever. it is already possible to show only text. at the top of chat window can't make screenshot of it atm but when I can I'll post one I'm not talking about the chat window. I'm talking about the list of players to the right of the chat window - Add the ability to remove the portraits aswell.
Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2010.09.07 00:20:00 - [38] Local and chat should receive an overhaul. We all know it's used for many things - intel is one of them. A "simple search" and "advanced search" is much needed, along with the ability to sort by standings (nut, good, bad), sort by name, sort by duration - ascending & descending options of course. This is a simple fix, as it would be just like the overview and client-based. I would also like better filter options for the chat clients. It's not hard to filter out and display things, as this is done on the user's client and wouldn't require a server call. Perhaps they can make these much needed & low-hanging fruit changes when they allow us to save all of our overview settings and user folders with our character online rather than on the user's local machine. This way when there's an update I don't need to worry about importing all of my settings again......
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.07 01:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Daniel Jackson Originally by: hydlided Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Turn Jita into 0.0 space and watch what happends to Jita Local chatter :) the spammers in jita are actualy docked so that woudent do any thing to the spam which is the only annoying thign in jita, same with the character list about 80 - 95% of jita is in station sooo ya and when the mods, and the faction loot and all the other trade items get ganked on the undocks the station spinners will find some where else to spin.
RentableMuffin	Posted - 2010.09.07 01:37:00 - [40] Originally by: Menkala Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Taint the quality of the spam thats the matter - its the list. Ever tried tracking wartargets in Jita? Have to scroll through the entire list to see if anyones in there. Then scroll entire list at 4-4 to see who's docked. Taint fun. Filter on the local list/station list would be awesome kthxbye! Hm. To the CSM! hell I want the filter just for right click -> trade
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.07 01:46:00 - [41] Originally by: RentableMuffin Originally by: Menkala Originally by: CCP Explorer ... there isn't much we can do about the quality of the content of Jita local. Taint the quality of the spam thats the matter - its the list. Ever tried tracking wartargets in Jita? Have to scroll through the entire list to see if anyones in there. Then scroll entire list at 4-4 to see who's docked. Taint fun. Filter on the local list/station list would be awesome kthxbye! Hm. To the CSM! hell I want the filter just for right click -> trade Just a "sort by" option
Memphis Raines	Posted - 2010.09.07 08:42:00 - [42] Keep Jita local chat active but nuke the ability to link contracts in local. 95% of them are scams anyway so it's not like we'd be missing out on anything. It would at least reduce the amount of garbage links in there and possibly SOME of the chatter traffic. Also would love to see a new, small window with some very basic metrics based on what pilots are in local. So if Jita has 1100 pilots maybe a small breakout window could have this. War Targets: 47 Neutrals: 1000 Friendly: 53 Small, simple and gets the same thing done as scrolling up and down the bloody local chat window.
Marinesforever	Posted - 2010.09.08 00:44:00 - [43] Edited by: Marinesforever on 08/09/2010 00:45:19
Daisuke Aoki Gallente Independent Coalition OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.08 00:51:00 - [44] It's called a custom overview. If alot of people in local is making you have a hard time finding war targets, then make a separate overview tab that only displays them. This isn't hard.
Omenis	Posted - 2010.09.08 21:09:00 - [45] Oh sure. You say it isn't hard, but using a custom overview tab would potentially involve leaving the station. Your wayward ways displease me.
Ascuris Wurm	Posted - 2010.09.09 02:56:00 - [46] Originally by: Daisuke Aoki It's called a custom overview. If alot of people in local is making you have a hard time finding war targets, then make a separate overview tab that only displays them. This isn't hard. Exactly. Just have separate overview tabs for stations, gates and hostiles or whatever you want. Makes finding things in Jita much, much simpler. That's what I do... but yes, you would have to leave the station, as the poster above said.

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