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Raid'En	Posted - 2010.09.05 21:58:00 - [1] Edited by: Raid''En on 05/09/2010 22:03:35 i got tired. you too are tired of his fail attempts on the page 1 ? well then i'm gonna stop it now. so what can i prove ? * i can prove than the 2 guys are the same persons using 2 or 3 differents methods. * i have proof than carson said HIMSELF he was a scammer. * i have proof all his thread about me is a scam he created with his friends lots of screens here : http://img248.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=20100712181103.jpg 1) Zelot Blueice = Carson Achura he said it to me when we first met 1 months ago, but that i don't have the record. but i have others things ; a) he talked about me with carson, then used zelot who was near the place to attack me after it failed first thing : carson : http://img687.imageshack.us/i/20100831220050.jpg/ look at the system name 2nd thing, some minutes later after i left the chat, zelot at the exit of the same system (he was on local outside before when i came, but that i don"t have proof) : http://img691.imageshack.us/i/czattack.jpg/ b) 1 month ago when we first met. carson talking about the money i got from zelot : http://img248.imageshack.us/i/20100712181103.jpg/ you can also see some intersting words he said, damn, it was for later the 2 part of the money, one on each alt : http://img97.imageshack.us/i/cz01.jpg/ oh also if it's not enough, he used the wrong char to post on my thread ; http://img827.imageshack.us/i/pressepapiers2.jpg/ it's zelot who post for what carson did ^^ oh got that also ; he ask me to help anchoring something to fake the danger while he was away on vacation : http://img191.imageshack.us/i/20100712183110.jpg/ but it's carson fleeted with me, and the secure can say zelot :p (they are not on the same account) 2) carson (and so zelot) is a scammer. i have the best proof ever : he said it HIMSELF ! http://img691.imageshack.us/i/20100712181200.jpg/ you think it's not enough because he didn't did it even if he said it ? well in that case : 3) what happened some days ago was a scam from him and his friends i had to search a bit to find a proof, the thing is i totally forgot carson was the "i tried to scam you" guys 1 month ago so first, problem was there were a tower on system he wanted to sell. he confirmed that there were no tower by mail after i suspsend the deal because there were something strange, and he confirmed there were no tower : (even if after he say i forgot to check - my taking 30ec for that it's too much) the mails : http://img841.imageshack.us/i/pressepapiers1k.jpg/ the pos i found inside : http://img818.imageshack.us/i/bettercorpscreen.jpg/ a **** no luck. well i didn't pay, so not a problem, but after that he make a thread because i failed. well strange what we can find on killmails (look at corp name of the pos before looking at screenshots below) : http://img826.imageshack.us/i/kmproofbc.jpg/ http://img228.imageshack.us/f/kmproofbc2.jpg/ what a coincidence ! the bad guy who put a tower on the system to sell was your buddy some days before when you were pew pew ing ! well it took me lot of time, as on employement history iof everyone i found nothing. (very good here, with this i can't prove at all who are your others alt - yeah i know others xD)
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:04:00 - [2] Posting to confirm I am Carsons main. Also, posting to confirm this is pointless thread.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:05:00 - [3] Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 22:07:16 can you say trollololol? PS: Just replying cause you said i didn't care about him during my last post in your 3rd Party failure thread. Guess i showed you Edit: And coming up at 11, Titans 4 U goes belly up.
Carson Achura Colonial Defense Agency	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:06:00 - [4] Trollololololol. Posting to reinforce Zelot's claim of idiocy and also confirming I am his alt.
Spruillo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:20:00 - [5] TL;DR or GTFO
Xenuria Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet	Posted - 2010.09.05 22:54:00 - [6] Originally by: AtheistOfFail Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 22:07:16 can you say trollololol? PS: Just replying cause you said i didn't care about him during my last post in your 3rd Party failure thread. Guess i showed you Edit: And coming up at 11, Titans 4 U goes belly up. Gee its almost like xenuria was right or something.. Vote Support For Great Justice
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.05 23:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Xenuria Originally by: AtheistOfFail Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 22:07:16 can you say trollololol? PS: Just replying cause you said i didn't care about him during my last post in your 3rd Party failure thread. Guess i showed you Edit: And coming up at 11, Titans 4 U goes belly up. Gee its almost like xenuria was right or something.. Wait, you predicted the T4U thing? Where?
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 05:35:00 - [8] SO this is funny because he is a blackmailer and a scammer, and NOW A LOTTO RUNNER!!! Zelot Blueice Lotto. dont trust this rigging bastard k ty bye
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.06 05:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Xenuria Originally by: AtheistOfFail Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 22:07:16 can you say trollololol? PS: Just replying cause you said i didn't care about him during my last post in your 3rd Party failure thread. Guess i showed you Edit: And coming up at 11, Titans 4 U goes belly up. Gee its almost like xenuria was right or something.. Actual, im confirming this.. Xenuria was in fact right about this but only a few select people got told to stay away.. I was not one of those people but at least one of those people felt the need to advise me (of something I had already worked out). Replying to threads without reading them since 2008
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 05:49:00 - [10] Originally by: E Taylor SO this is funny because he is a blackmailer and a scammer, and NOW A LOTTO RUNNER!!! Zelot Blueice Lotto. dont trust this rigging bastard k ty bye Unlike HHLotto i can't be tempted by isk to rig anything. His first lottery was already drawn and the second one's already off to a good start. We are having some problems with ticket tracking but so far, everything seems to be in 1 piece.

T'Amber Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.06 06:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Xenuria Originally by: AtheistOfFail Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 22:07:16 can you say trollololol? PS: Just replying cause you said i didn't care about him during my last post in your 3rd Party failure thread. Guess i showed you Edit: And coming up at 11, Titans 4 U goes belly up. Gee its almost like xenuria was right or something.. Actual, im confirming this.. Xenuria was in fact right about this but only a few select people got told to stay away.. I was not one of those people but at least one of those people felt the need to advise me (of something I had already worked out). I hope you are being sarcastic about needing someone to tell you it was a scam. -T'amber [SoE:X]
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 06:08:00 - [12] Originally by: T'Amber I hope you are being sarcastic about needing someone to tell you it was a scam. -T'amber T, Someone sent me 450 shares cause i asked for them . I wanted to have a piece of history even if it was a total failure.
T'Amber Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.06 06:09:00 - [13] Edited by: T''Amber on 06/09/2010 06:08:59 Originally by: AtheistOfFail Originally by: T'Amber I hope you are being sarcastic about needing someone to tell you it was a scam. -T'amber T, Someone sent me 450 shares cause i asked for them . I wanted to have a piece of history even if it was a total failure. I'm aware you bought some knowning it was a scam. I was talking to Lana. [SoE:X]
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 06:10:00 - [14] Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 06/09/2010 06:11:02 Originally by: T'Amber Edited by: T''Amber on 06/09/2010 06:08:59 Originally by: AtheistOfFail Originally by: T'Amber I hope you are being sarcastic about needing someone to tell you it was a scam. -T'amber T, Someone sent me 450 shares cause i asked for them . I wanted to have a piece of history even if it was a total failure. I'm aware you bought some knowning it was a scam. I was talking to Lana. I actually asked someone to sell me one for 1 mill and they sent me all of theirs. I couldn't afford to give them 450 mill so i honored my first deal. They sent me a mail back saying i could keep them all so i'm gonna keep them as a reminder.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.06 06:53:00 - [15] Originally by: T'Amber Edited by: T''Amber on 06/09/2010 06:08:59 Originally by: AtheistOfFail Originally by: T'Amber I hope you are being sarcastic about needing someone to tell you it was a scam. -T'amber T, Someone sent me 450 shares cause i asked for them . I wanted to have a piece of history even if it was a total failure. I'm aware you bought some knowning it was a scam. I was talking to Lana. Wait wot.. to me?? Aww shucks ^.^ I pretty much think everything is a scam. Occasionally I am correct and tell everyone I knew it missing all the times it wasn't.. I'm convinced somehow you are trying to scam people using hats.... I'm on to you T'Amber... Replying to threads without reading them since 2008
Simon Mickey	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:01:00 - [16] Ok, he tried to scam you. I don't think there was ever any question of whether Carson was in the wrong. The reason for the other thread was that you gave the other client the bookmark. Despite you thinking it holds no value, it was not your place to do that and as such you broke your bond as a neutral third party. I therefore suggest that not only is Carson not to be trusted, but you are also not to be trusted.
Chamosia	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:11:00 - [17] I just find it funny that he is trying to make a lotto and he has admitted to being a scammer and a blackmailer lol
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:55:00 - [18] Edited by: Zelot Blueice on 06/09/2010 07:54:53 I admitted to being a blackmailer. It is a great way of making iskies. However, scamming is just not my thing
Slinqi	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:57:00 - [19] in ever chat you said you wanted to rig lottos.... and your making lottos now lol
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.06 07:59:00 - [20] I would you you to see my latest comment on the HHLOTTO Exposed thread. It may intrest you. I feel now is a good time to release all the names.

E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:03:00 - [21] Edited by: E Taylor on 06/09/2010 08:04:11 TBH you just made it seem like you want to rig lottos and not to mention the fact your using a fail 3rd party (who is your alt) makes it even more that you want to rig lotto's ... and now that you do not get 5 bill from these people your like butthurt and want there isk on top of the isk you scam from other people through your own lottos?
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:06:00 - [22] Originally by: E Taylor Edited by: E Taylor on 06/09/2010 08:04:11 TBH you just made it seem like you want to rig lottos and not to mention the fact your using a fail 3rd party (who is your alt) makes it even more that you want to rig lotto's ... and now that you do not get 5 bill from these people your like butthurt and want there isk on top of the isk you scam from other people through your own lottos? I'm noone's alt. Get it straight. Zelot's just a client.
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:10:00 - [23] Well if your not his alt your still supporting a scammer / blackmailer so that does not say much about you does it?
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:12:00 - [24] Originally by: E Taylor Well if your not his alt your still supporting a scammer / blackmailer so that does not say much about you does it? What does supporting Bad Bobby say about Chribba? What does... Oh wait, not gonna ruin that good example. Chribba's still running his bond. So what you're saying is, it's ok when your client steals over 800b but anything below that is not ok? Double standards ftw
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:16:00 - [25] Well chribba has overseen lots of super capital transfers for years, where as you have only been doing 3rd party for like a month? No matter what you do people still gonna trust him. But you supporting this fool right when you start your third party means your either in on the take or you are his alt simple as that.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:18:00 - [26] Originally by: E Taylor Well chribba has overseen lots of super capital transfers for years, where as you have only been doing 3rd party for like a month? No matter what you do people still gonna trust him. But you supporting this fool right when you start your third party means your either in on the take or you are his alt simple as that. Or i actually care about my costumers. You know, Chribba didn't always oversee lots of super capital transfers. Don't troll unless you got something good to troll. My third party has already started and it's not gonna end because of what you post. I'm not in for any take and i'm not his alt so you're wrong on both ideas.
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:22:00 - [27] You are probably the worst 3rd party ever because you knowingly support people who openly scam and blackmail and do not deny it.
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:24:00 - [28] I didnt scam anyone. I do blackmail yes. Its business and very profitable but this shouldnt stop a 3rd party. Atheist is 100% trustworthy as per my assement on page 3 of the HHLOTTO EXPOSED thread.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:25:00 - [29] Originally by: E Taylor You are probably the worst 3rd party ever because you knowingly support people who openly scam and blackmail and do not deny it. I'll give you a link to Chribba's Bond with Bad Bobby. Come on, you know you want one
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:25:00 - [30] You do not scam? yet you posted yourself in convoes where you want to rig lotto's... AND YOUR RUNNING LOTTOS! get it?

Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:27:00 - [31] Here are the names. AtheistOfFail Darknesss Grendell Kontraer04 Lotto49 Somerset_Mahm T'Amber HHLotto Chribba Raid'En The Ambusher ----------- CaLdArIaN AdMiRaL EveRaffles Beltan Kelara Molesty Smurf Optimus P Vularis Toralla These are divided into two groups at the moment. The reason why this is setup this way is because all the names on top I have convoes to verify their status. The names on bottom were from older dates. I had lost my HDD to corruption so I lost all the older convoes. Here is my Good to Evil list now. AtheistOfFail Darknesss Grendell Kontraer04 Lotto49 Somerset_Mahm T'Amber Chribba The Ambusher EveRaffles Beltan Kelara Molesty Smurf Optimus P Vularis Toralla CaLdArIaN AdMiRaL ----------- Raid'En - Needs more experience. HHLotto - Dangerous. Allow me to explain a few things. First off the top is for the most part good and the bottom is dangerous. I do however have 5 names that I havnt shown on the bottom because the blackmail has worked so 5 lucky people are saved for today. HHLotto has potential to be wrong, so always make sure she has a TRUSTY 3rd party and never let her run her own lotteries. Raid'En simply needs to learn "Due Process" and shoudlnt have been hit so hard by me. I apoligize. Do not ask for other names because I will not say. To clarify a few things up, I convoed this people at first because I was curious about Anaxis Muntaine and why he won all the time. I had said I wanted to rig them to get people intrested. If they showed the slightest interest then I would have something to show you guys. There is the veil.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:28:00 - [32] Originally by: E Taylor You do not scam? yet you posted yourself in convoes where you want to rig lotto's... AND YOUR RUNNING LOTTOS! get it? Can't rig a lottery if it's being secured. My deal with him is he gets access to nothing, all his isk is held in escrow (both prizes and ticket isk) and all he gets to do is buy prizes and get the released escrow at the END of a lottery (all prizes awarded).
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:31:00 - [33] Edited by: E Taylor on 06/09/2010 08:34:30 We already know he has an army of alts... he is probably just buying bulk of the tickets in order to win most of the lottos. also you forgot to add your name in red there at the bottom as well.
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:33:00 - [34] Who? Anaxis? I have a few interesting things about him. Remember, there are also five names that are not listed here. I am sure someone intelligent can figure it out for themselves.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:35:00 - [35] Originally by: E Taylor We already know he has an army of alts... he is probably just buying bulk of the tickets in order to win most of the lottos. Yes, but i'd know. Cause i'm me and i have actually known Zelot for a while. I told him the rules of using me to secure anything. He breaks them, he's gone, just like anyone else.
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.06 08:38:00 - [36] I have known you for about 3-4 months. We met back in WI and he helped me out with getting involved in some things there and so we became friends but detached for a few weeks. About a month and a half I would say. Now here we are doing some creditable business. I would like to point out that my first lottery sold out nicely.
Raid'En	Posted - 2010.09.06 15:56:00 - [37] i like how thay say something without any proofs to try to contradict what i said with lots of proofs xD
E Taylor	Posted - 2010.09.06 20:11:00 - [38] It's funny because he's a scammed who wants to rig lottos and has his own lottos lol!
Opije Caldari The Immortal Dawn	Posted - 2010.09.06 22:16:00 - [39] Thanks for the waist of time that has been all these threads.
Zeuth Proxy Caldari Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2010.09.06 23:08:00 - [40] I think its obvious that Zelot/Carson/Atheistofail are all the same person. Just reading Zelots and Atheists posts makes it obvious. Their punctuation and typing styles are identical aswell as they post within 2-3 minutes of each other almost every time.

AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 23:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Zeuth Proxy I think its obvious that I can't come with anything else to say about the scams some of these lottery holders have be accused of so i must yell out "ALT!!!!" Fixed it for ya.
Zeuth Proxy Caldari Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2010.09.06 23:34:00 - [42] Originally by: AtheistOfFail Fixed it for ya. Actually I could careless about the supposed scams. I just find it hilarious how hard you try to blackmail other Lotto runners and try and make them seem untrustworthy to boost your own lottos/3rd party. Yet you do it in a fashion that makes it blatantly obvious that you are the same person.
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.09.07 00:42:00 - [43] Atheist, did he not get the "separated at birth memo?"
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.07 01:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Zeuth Proxy blackmail other Lotto runners. Speaking of someone who gets along with almost all other 3rd Parties, has run joint projects with some of them? That doesn't sound like me. I knew Zelot was putting a list together, so when he posted the first one, i knew i should go check it
JoeBobSmithHenryFord	Posted - 2010.09.07 02:04:00 - [45] Is it just me who thinks that everyone is full of **** in this thread?
Raid'En	Posted - 2010.09.07 02:11:00 - [46] Originally by: JoeBobSmithHenryFord Is it just me who thinks that everyone is full of **** in this thread? he think it's even funnier to continue his activities with everyone being able to see who he is. you didn't read what BB said ? well he'd read it. and thinks the same.
JoeBobSmithHenryFord	Posted - 2010.09.07 02:28:00 - [47] Originally by: Raid'En Originally by: JoeBobSmithHenryFord Is it just me who thinks that everyone is full of **** in this thread? he think it's even funnier to continue his activities with everyone being able to see who he is. you didn't read what BB said ? well he'd read it. and thinks the same. See at first I thought it was a legit thread (both this one and last), but now I am wondering if Carson, Raid'en, Atheistoffail, are really all the same person? Because it seems this failure of a drama bomb won't go away. This is how I am starting to see it at least. I could be wrong, but this bickering over something that should have died days ago is wearing me out.
Java Hun Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.	Posted - 2010.09.07 03:03:00 - [48] Honestly, your trying to hard br0
Meridith Akesia Men of Questionable Moral Fibre The Worst Alliance in Eve	Posted - 2010.09.07 10:16:00 - [49] Is it just me that thinks this thread is ****?
Slinqi	Posted - 2010.09.07 10:50:00 - [50] Lol which part is the **** part? him being a scammer or people calling him a scammer? lol

Raid'En	Posted - 2010.09.09 19:30:00 - [51] Edited by: Raid''En on 09/09/2010 19:30:55 he's currently trying a new scam on the sell orders, using his jita's alt, apollo russ. system is the same he's used to try to scam me twice. if you fall here, you're really an idiot.
Xenuria Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet	Posted - 2010.09.10 00:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: T'Amber Edited by: T''Amber on 06/09/2010 06:08:59 Originally by: AtheistOfFail Originally by: T'Amber I hope you are being sarcastic about needing someone to tell you it was a scam. -T'amber T, Someone sent me 450 shares cause i asked for them . I wanted to have a piece of history even if it was a total failure. I'm aware you bought some knowning it was a scam. I was talking to Lana. Wait wot.. to me?? Aww shucks ^.^ I pretty much think everything is a scam. Occasionally I am correct and tell everyone I knew it missing all the times it wasn't.. I'm convinced somehow you are trying to scam people using hats.... I'm on to you T'Amber... wrong game. Scamming people with hats is TF2. They say "Buy game X and get a exclusive hat in TF2" The hat itself is about as exclusive as the celestial steed 15 mins after I bought one. In the future I will mark any scam threads with a more obvious notation. Vote Support For Great Justice
Raid'En	Posted - 2010.09.13 22:56:00 - [53] as he's still trying to say bull**** when my back is turned, he win a bump.


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