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Noguchi Raijin Order of the Griffin	Posted - 2010.09.06 18:34:00 - [1] I see a fair amount of Nyx's in lowsec these days, but have yet to see any other race in game or on km's. Just curious why this is. I understand the Nyx's damage bonus, but are the other's just unable to perform in this role?
ShahFluffers Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.09.06 20:21:00 - [2] I think the train of thought that SC pilots have in low-sec is that they don't have to fear capital blob hotdrops [as much] so might as well go for a ship that can quickly gank ships that are playing station games. That said, I have seen a few Aeons and Hels around the Amamake area. Perhaps you'd like to stop by for a visit. _______________________ "Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
RagnarRox	Posted - 2010.09.06 21:32:00 - [3] Actually nowadays Hotdropps happen very often in Lowsec since basically all the players who were in Dreads and Carriers a year ago are now in MOM`s and Lowsec is Easier for Smaller alli`s to keep and Defend Super Cap Staging POS`s from huge Blobing Alli`s Like the NC in the north IT in south etc etc. Since they can Blob with 800 People and still not take the station it makes it dangerous for them to come way out of 00 Sec and not be sure of what Ship`s etc the Losec Station will Bring. But to awnser the question I think the Nyx was the most popular period. For looks and also it was always considered best MOM. Now I`d say Aeon is better since 15% more DMG isnt Enough for its 30% less Tank, and the more ISk you spend the bigger the gap gets. In Lowsec/Small Ganks the Aeon`s Tank matters less than in fleets. Take what you Can, when you can.
Allant Doran Amarr Locus Industries	Posted - 2010.09.06 21:42:00 - [4] I've seen several Aeons and Nyx on killmails in the Amarr/Minmatar area of FW but have yet to see either of those ships in person. I think you see them most because one has the most EHP (I'm a cap ship newb so i'm just going on what i remember reading) being the Aeon, and the other, the Nyx, having the best damage output. Again, i'm no cap-ship user but i would assume that the reason you see less Wyverns is the same reason as most Caldari big ships in that people prefer armour over shield tanks. As for the Hel, never seen one but i'm guessing they're around.
King Rothgar Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2010.09.06 22:30:00 - [5] Well technically, the aeon should be the best of them but it's so incredibly ugly I just don't see myself ever flying it. I'm getting to the stage where a SC is on the menu, and if I do go that route, I'll throw in gallente BS5 and gallente carrier 5 just to fly the nyx instead of the aeon. It just looks so much better and if I'm going to have a toon trapped in a supercap, it damn well better look good. As for functionality, the nyx is more useful in low sec. The huge capital fights you see in null sec are a rare occurrence in low sec. It's mostly small gang capital skirmishes (10 caps per side or less). The 25% damage bonus, not 15%, is more important in that scenario than increased resistances. It's all about gank, if you end up having to actually tank then you screwed up. A typical capital fight in amarr/minmatar FW space is a BS gang drops a carrier or two for logistics in an emergency. That's the end of it 90% of the time, the other side doesn't bring capitals and loses the field. The other 10% of the time, they counter drop with 2-3 carriers and a SC. The initial hot droppers get murdered and that's the end of it. Dreads are still used in POS bashing obviously but typically only when no real resistance is expected or with the very rare low sec capital blob. I've never seen a counter capital blob fielded however, so it's just a pos bashing force and no ship to ship combat takes place. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Noguchi Raijin Order of the Griffin	Posted - 2010.09.06 23:04:00 - [6] Good to hear some others are being used. I personally like the Hel looks-wise. Nyx is nice too, but both minmatar carriers are some of the coolest looking ships in game imo.
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.06 23:16:00 - [7] Nyx is Cool but alot of pilots dont have full SKills yet and Hop into one to fast, so they dont get all the DMG Bonus. Also the Aeon doesnt just get the extra 25% Resist which is massive but it also gets a extra Low Slot which is another huge tanking Aid. So it ends up being 30-40% more Tank sometimes. The HEl is subpar but if used right no MOM is ever worthless and can do huge things but in the future as more players aquire them the HEL will become worse if not changed. Losec is usually Ganking Carriers doing LVL 5`s. But its true that alot of Smaller Powerful Alliances who cant fight the numbers but are very elite use Losec staging areas. They cant be taken, and are usually pretty close. Dont go for looks of ship -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Otocinclus Minmatar Project Nemesis The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.09.07 02:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Kail Storm Nyx is Cool but alot of pilots dont have full SKills yet and Hop into one to fast, so they dont get all the DMG Bonus. Also the Aeon doesnt just get the extra 25% Resist which is massive but it also gets a extra Low Slot which is another huge tanking Aid. So it ends up being 30-40% more Tank sometimes. The HEl is subpar but if used right no MOM is ever worthless and can do huge things but in the future as more players aquire them the HEL will become worse if not changed. Losec is usually Ganking Carriers doing LVL 5`s. But its true that alot of Smaller Powerful Alliances who cant fight the numbers but are very elite use Losec staging areas. They cant be taken, and are usually pretty close. Dont go for looks of ship This guy obviously knows what he's talking about, we should listen to him more often.
Religous Reclaimer47	Posted - 2010.09.07 04:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Otocinclus Originally by: Kail Storm Nyx is Cool but alot of pilots dont have full SKills yet and Hop into one to fast, so they dont get all the DMG Bonus. Also the Aeon doesnt just get the extra 25% Resist which is massive but it also gets a extra Low Slot which is another huge tanking Aid. So it ends up being 30-40% more Tank sometimes. The HEl is subpar but if used right no MOM is ever worthless and can do huge things but in the future as more players aquire them the HEL will become worse if not changed. Losec is usually Ganking Carriers doing LVL 5`s. But its true that alot of Smaller Powerful Alliances who cant fight the numbers but are very elite use Losec staging areas. They cant be taken, and are usually pretty close. Dont go for looks of ship This guy obviously knows what he's talking about, we should listen to him more often. What did he say wrong?
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2010.09.07 06:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Religous Reclaimer47 Originally by: Otocinclus Originally by: Kail Storm Nyx is Cool but alot of pilots dont have full SKills yet and Hop into one to fast, so they dont get all the DMG Bonus. Also the Aeon doesnt just get the extra 25% Resist which is massive but it also gets a extra Low Slot which is another huge tanking Aid. So it ends up being 30-40% more Tank sometimes. The HEl is subpar but if used right no MOM is ever worthless and can do huge things but in the future as more players aquire them the HEL will become worse if not changed. Losec is usually Ganking Carriers doing LVL 5`s. But its true that alot of Smaller Powerful Alliances who cant fight the numbers but are very elite use Losec staging areas. They cant be taken, and are usually pretty close. Dont go for looks of ship This guy obviously knows what he's talking about, we should listen to him more often. What did he say wrong? He's Kail Storm, failnaut extraordinnaire --- ☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.07 06:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Religous Reclaimer47 Originally by: Otocinclus Originally by: Kail Storm Nyx is Cool but alot of pilots dont have full SKills yet and Hop into one to fast, so they dont get all the DMG Bonus. Also the Aeon doesnt just get the extra 25% Resist which is massive but it also gets a extra Low Slot which is another huge tanking Aid. So it ends up being 30-40% more Tank sometimes. The HEl is subpar but if used right no MOM is ever worthless and can do huge things but in the future as more players aquire them the HEL will become worse if not changed. Losec is usually Ganking Carriers doing LVL 5`s. But its true that alot of Smaller Powerful Alliances who cant fight the numbers but are very elite use Losec staging areas. They cant be taken, and are usually pretty close. Dont go for looks of ship This guy obviously knows what he's talking about, we should listen to him more often. What did he say wrong? He's Kail Storm, failnaut extraordinnaire Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.07 06:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2010.09.07 06:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad Baffling I was referring to the ***poor threads you created when you first started playing. Also, I wasn't calling him* a failnaut, I was calling you one. --- ☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.07 07:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad Baffling I was referring to the ***poor threads you created when you first started playing. Also, I wasn't calling him* a failnaut, I was calling you one. Maybe I need Therapy. -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Noguchi Raijin Order of the Griffin	Posted - 2010.09.07 07:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Liang Nuren al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds the ******e of this story is smack dab in the middle of china where the velvet underground sings on the brownstone and strikes the hand of doom.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.09.07 08:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Noguchi Raijin Originally by: Liang Nuren al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds the ****e of this story is smack dab in the middle of china where the velvet underground sings on the brownstone and strikes the hand of doom. I bet she wakes up with a headache. Originally by:** Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Gunnanmon Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.07 14:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds Cat, is that you? Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.07 15:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Religous Reclaimer47 Originally by: Otocinclus Originally by: Kail Storm Nyx is Cool but alot of pilots dont have full SKills yet and Hop into one to fast, so they dont get all the DMG Bonus. Also the Aeon doesnt just get the extra 25% Resist which is massive but it also gets a extra Low Slot which is another huge tanking Aid. So it ends up being 30-40% more Tank sometimes. The HEl is subpar but if used right no MOM is ever worthless and can do huge things but in the future as more players aquire them the HEL will become worse if not changed. Losec is usually Ganking Carriers doing LVL 5`s. But its true that alot of Smaller Powerful Alliances who cant fight the numbers but are very elite use Losec staging areas. They cant be taken, and are usually pretty close. Dont go for looks of ship This guy obviously knows what he's talking about, we should listen to him more often. What did he say wrong? Euhm his logic is that an aeon gets 25% resist bonus, while a nyx only gets 15% damage bonus since nyx pilots never train carrier further than lvl 3.
Kalnov Gallente Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2010.09.07 18:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds Drunk post detected.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.07 18:58:00 - [20] You will appreciate that extra ehp over the extra damage when that simple hotdrop gank turns into a tarp. Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.07 19:15:00 - [21] When Did I ever Say 15%? Also alot of guys on both sides jump into MOM`s before Carrier 5, good for other pilots who kill them. Aeon has a Huge Tank and an extra loslot for more tank. It lends it self to be the best in fleets, ugly as it may be. Nyx is best small gang Hotdropper IMO since 20ish mil EHP or 36ish MIl doesnt really matter its the best. You want to get in and out before you get hotdropped. -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.07 20:00:00 - [22] Edited by: Furb Killer on 07/09/2010 20:01:08 Originally by: Zeba You will appreciate that extra ehp over the extra damage when that simple hotdrop gank turns into a tarp. The problem kinda is if the trap is a at least semi properly done it doesnt matter if you got more EHP or not, you die. While if you use a nyx you are shorter on the field so you give them less time to organise a hotdrop on you. Now if it is a planned trap that doesnt really matter. But if you bring your nyx to kill a couple of carriers supporting opponents and PL happens to be in the area with their fleet (or CH/similar entities), you are ****ed if they get onto you, independent of your EHP. While with a nyx you might just be out before they get their cyno stuff in position. That and i cant imagine why someone would want to spend 20B on a prime contester for the worst looking ship in eve award. If i would spend so much it better be a good looking ship.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.07 20:21:00 - [23] Typical sc gank targets tend to be single ships so that difference in dps is usually irrelevant. Hell the last one I went on I wasn't even able to get any dps on the target before it popped as I lagged on the jump in by about 5 seconds.. And no it wasn't a blob just a nice surgical strike with some aeons and a nyx with support. Now on the other hand if you walk into a tarp that extra ehp might mean the difference between killing the last hic and jumping the ** out or dying in your pretty ship. Btw to that other guy its closer to 35/56mil ehp not 20/36 unless you are dumb and fit t1 rigs with t2 mods in the lows. Originally by:** CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Chris Bailey	Posted - 2010.09.07 20:29:00 - [24] There was me saying the aeon looked good
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.07 21:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Zeba You will appreciate that extra ehp over the extra damage when that simple hotdrop gank turns into a tarp.
Kail Storm Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.07 21:19:00 - [26] Edited by: Kail Storm on 07/09/2010 21:21:55 Originally by: Zeba Typical sc gank targets tend to be single ships so that difference in dps is usually irrelevant. Hell the last one I went on I wasn't even able to get any dps on the target before it popped as I lagged on the jump in by about 5 seconds.. And no it wasn't a blob just a nice surgical strike with some aeons and a nyx with support. Now on the other hand if you walk into a tarp that extra ehp might mean the difference between killing the last hic and jumping the **** out or dying in your pretty ship. Btw to that other guy its closer to 35/56mil ehp not 20/36 unless you are dumb and fit t1 rigs with t2 mods in the lows. Thats true, Usually 1-2 Carriers in a Low Sec Gank melt in almost the same time. Assuming 10k DPS for Nyx and 8k DPS Aeon with 3 Aeons or 3 Nyx`s the target still mets very very fast, but it is nice to have the Extra EHP if you are trapped. Zeba show me your fit you are talking about, I useed this just for quik referance with all Corp A types which I see on Most Mom`s. [Nyx, Random] Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpus A-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus A-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Damage Control II [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Malleus x20 This one is 21 mil EHP. So where did I go wrong? Not officer? Or slaves? I usually dont count Slaves but it would make sense if others did. Also if I change them to all X-type I still only get 23 mil. -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.07 22:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds Drunk again --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2010.09.07 23:57:00 - [28] Originally by: Kail Storm Edited by: Kail Storm on 07/09/2010 21:21:55 Originally by: Zeba Typical sc gank targets tend to be single ships so that difference in dps is usually irrelevant. Hell the last one I went on I wasn't even able to get any dps on the target before it popped as I lagged on the jump in by about 5 seconds.. And no it wasn't a blob just a nice surgical strike with some aeons and a nyx with support. Now on the other hand if you walk into a tarp that extra ehp might mean the difference between killing the last hic and jumping the ** out or dying in your pretty ship. Btw to that other guy its closer to 35/56mil ehp not 20/36 unless you are dumb and fit t1 rigs with t2 mods in the lows. Thats true, Usually 1-2 Carriers in a Low Sec Gank melt in almost the same time. Assuming 10k DPS for Nyx and 8k DPS Aeon with 3 Aeons or 3 Nyx`s the target still mets very very fast, but it is nice to have the Extra EHP if you are trapped. Zeba show me your fit you are talking about, I useed this just for quik referance with all Corp A types which I see on Most Mom`s. [Nyx, Random] Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpus A-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus A-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Damage Control II [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Malleus x20 This one is 21 mil EHP. So where did I go wrong? Not officer? Or slaves? I usually dont count Slaves but it would make sense if others did. Also if I change them to all X-type I still only get 23 mil. You don't count slaves? You think someone is going to spend 20b on a fit SC and not spend the extra 1b for the HUGE buffer increase? ________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City' Originally by:** CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster.
Terianna Eri Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.09.08 01:11:00 - [29] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kail Storm Lol thats rich the worst troll in history, Cromo`s alt called him a Extraordinaire, Thats pretty bad al that wsa wrong is that e said theat lowsec is ful of l5 carirws kmti idnt it is dull of sipercariwers dropfomg anythgimt that ,voeds liang is my favorite drunkposter ever ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.08 01:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon You don't count slaves? You think someone is going to spend 20b on a fit SC and not spend the extra 1b for the HUGE buffer increase? Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....

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