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Mogg Karaatu
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:01:00 -
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For those who didn't already know, Goonswarm has a scam where they invite new players to join their Corporation/alliance but require a "security deposit" that will be returned to the player within a certain period of time. Upon receipt of the deposit, they offer to move ships and assets from where ever you are now to what will be your new home in their space. Then they seize control of the assets by accepting the contracts and direct you to a website that tells you you have just been scammed -- https://auth.goonfleet.com/newbies/ . I know because as a newer player who was looking to move from lowsec into 0.0 I was a victim of this scam tonight. I'm sure this post will inspire lots of comments calling me an idiot, etc. Thanks for the helpful remarks in advance, but I thought it was important to get this out there and make sure everyone knew about it.
Thankfully I'm new enough that my assets weren't any big deal. All told I probably lost about 600 million, which I can easily replace with a plex. Others might not be so fortunate. I realized I was taking a great risk, but I did so anyway because I was eager to move into a 0.0 alliance. I'm not surprised Goonswarm has failed in the past and is now looked upon as kind of an afterthought amongst the real power players in Eve.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:02:00 -
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goon what?
ITS A WAR! |

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:03:00 -
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Your warning is appreciated. --
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Gistatis Tribunus
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: Gistatis Tribunus on 16/09/2010 06:06:24 How many times do I have to tell you people? Goonwaffe is the most legitimate organization in Eve. Making threads like this where you try to allude to some imaginary 'scam' only serve as trying to inflict a dent to their polished and flawless reputation as recruiters.
edit: spelling fail --------- "The." -Oceano da Cruz |

Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:12:00 -
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He didn't say Goonwaffe he said goonswarm.. I cant seem to find them on the map.. I mean i'm looking real hard but it'll only let me zoom in to system level..
ITS A WAR! |

Mogg Karaatu
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:34:00 -
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Okay, the guy was from Goonwaffe, which is part of the Goonswarm Federation. But thanks for acting like you have no idea who I'm talking about :-)
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mogg Karaatu Okay, the guy was from Goonwaffe, which is part of the Goonswarm Federation. But thanks for acting like you have no idea who I'm talking about :-)
No seriously I have no idea. I went looking for Goonwaffe as well and all I found were some links to a quite disturbing website..
ITS A WAR! |

Meridith Akesia
Men of Questionable Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.09.16 06:47:00 -
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Scandalous!
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Mr Cocojambo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.16 07:42:00 -
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A scam...? in EVE...? by Goons...? 
I for one find this very hard to believe!
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Mataa Harii
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Posted - 2010.09.16 07:46:00 -
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There are a couple other Alliances in the NC doing now as well.
Off the top of my head, the new Geminate pets 'dem0n hunters' are I think one more in Pure Blind.
Pilot beware.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.09.16 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 16/09/2010 07:53:45 Didn't occur to you to read this, huh?
Originally by: The Goon wiki If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.
Has it up there in big red letters and all. You'd almost think it was idiot-proof, but apparently you'd be wrong.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.09.16 07:56:00 -
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Thanks goons for the reminder. It's been a while since we had one of these threads. Good to see you are still relevant  ~_~
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.16 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 16/09/2010 07:53:45 Didn't occur to you to read this, huh?
Originally by: The Goon wiki If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.
Has it up there in big red letters and all. You'd almost think it was idiot-proof, but apparently you'd be wrong.
This is the thing about idiots.. They are so ingenious..
ITS A WAR! |

Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.16 08:05:00 -
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Good Sir,
I must take exception to your characterization of our fine organization. We are nothing but honorable internet spaceship pilots and we won't stand to have our good name smeared thusly.
I demand, Sir, a retraction of your statement and an apology to Goons everywhere.
After you have atoned for your egregious conduct and you still wish to join the Goons let me tell you about our free jump freighter service for new members...
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Deathhawk
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2010.09.16 08:06:00 -
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lol a year break and i come back and see this old scam still going on!! good times
Chuck Norris wears Deathhawk pyjamas
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.16 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw Good Sir,
I must take exception to your characterization of our fine organization. We are nothing but honorable internet spaceship pilots and we won't stand to have our good name smeared thusly.
I demand, Sir, a retraction of your statement and an apology to Goons everywhere.
After you have atoned for your egregious conduct and you still wish to join the Goons let me tell you about our free jump freighter service for new members...
Hi Skunk!
You should get more details off him so you can kick the offending member. I mean if you are going to take him as a new recruit then its only fare.. Try eve-mailing him.
ITS A WAR! |

Watyu
Minmatar Armored Elite Concordokken.
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Posted - 2010.09.16 11:30:00 -
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Never, evrer, ever give anyone your isk unless your buying something of them. Through contracts. Or market.
Think about it, if they are worried about spies so bad they need a security deposit why are they recruiting? It's not like it would stop a hostile alliance getting a spy in anyway even if It was legit.
I believe that goonwaffe has tried this scam twice on me personally (hell, messing with goon recruiters is fun) and it has been around for a looooooong time(which by the way is why the cool kids are descending on this thread)
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ISK1machine
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Posted - 2010.09.16 11:41:00 -
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Op,have you ever considered that they do a favour in scamming people this way? I mean imagine if you were accepted and then you had to be left homeless like what it happened in Delve. Its awesome though that Goons attempt to grief people when it was them some months ago that provided one of the biggest "youcanhasmystufsigobuWOW" threads when they lost Delve. If you want to go in null or low sec i suggest you do it by yourself.Much safer and easier this way than joining in proven worthless render alliances.
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Bai Winlock
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.16 11:58:00 -
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goonswarm st00l mai isk :( how do i get it back?
Originally by: Mogg Karaatu
For those who didn't already know, Goonswarm has a scam where they invite new players to join their Corporation/alliance but require a "security deposit" that will be returned to the player within a certain period of time. Upon receipt of the deposit, they offer to move ships and assets from where ever you are now to what will be your new home in their space. Then they seize control of the assets by accepting the contracts and direct you to a website that tells you you have just been scammed -- https://auth.goonfleet.com/newbies/ . I know because as a newer player who was looking to move from lowsec into 0.0 I was a victim of this scam tonight. I'm sure this post will inspire lots of comments calling me an idiot, etc. Thanks for the helpful remarks in advance, but I thought it was important to get this out there and make sure everyone knew about it.
Thankfully I'm new enough that my assets weren't any big deal. All told I probably lost about 600 million, which I can easily replace with a plex. Others might not be so fortunate. I realized I was taking a great risk, but I did so anyway because I was eager to move into a 0.0 alliance. I'm not surprised Goonswarm has failed in the past and is now looked upon as kind of an afterthought amongst the real power players in Eve.
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Kari Cald
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Posted - 2010.09.16 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mogg Karaatu I'm not surprised Goonswarm has failed in the past and is now looked upon as kind of an afterthought amongst the real power players in Eve.
Ow, that must be painful. Are you still able to still down?
These threads by goon-wannabes are great.
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Shaloran Kalior
Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.09.16 13:52:00 -
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Seriously? People STILL fall for this ****?
Come on. Its even on their wiki that if you do this you are being scammed. |

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:00:00 -
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600m for a plex? |

Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:04:00 -
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/l、 ゙(゚、 。 7 l、゙ ~ヽ じしf_, )ノ |

Paknac Queltel
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:13:00 -
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Wait, I'm pretty sure I didn't set my DeLorean for 2009. This isn't the future! - Paknac Queltel
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Mogg Karaatu
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:17:00 -
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I love how all the more experienced players in this game act like they were born with 65 million SP and an understanding of all the dynamics -- including scams -- out there.
Guess what? I'm a noob. I've been playing for about five months and almost all of that has been in the same corporation. That means there are a host of things I don't know -- such as the fact that alliances have "their own wiki." I have almost never read the forums [OMG!]. If a scam is a year old, I don't know about it, because I wasn't playing a year ago. HOWEVER, I do know what it's like to go out of the house, to have a career, and to have a girlfriend :-)
I knew I was taking a chance in this transaction, I said as much in my original post, but in terms of risk-reward, it was worth it to me. Even 1 billion in assets is less than 2 ETCs [yes, I mistakenly called them plexes. Can you imagine that individuals exist who refer to ETCs as plexes off the top of their head?]. That's $70. If that gets you excited, well, I'm not sure what your future prospects are like as a human being. But thanks to everyone for helping me keep this game in perspective. I'm off to buy my ETCs and move forward. I hope this helps some other newer players.
Mogg
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Tejal Charu
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mogg Karaatu HOWEVER, I do know what it's like to go out of the house, to have a career, and to have a girlfriend :-)
What is this "go out of the house" you speak of? Do careers taste good? And what is a girl? So many questions!  |

Paknac Queltel
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tejal Charu And what is a girl?
I would very much enjoy an answer to this as well.
INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW! - Paknac Queltel
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Paknac Queltel
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Paknac Queltel on 16/09/2010 14:27:02 gah - double poast  - Paknac Queltel
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Paknac Queltel
Originally by: Tejal Charu And what is a girl?
I would very much enjoy an answer to this as well.
INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!
I agree ... "girl", it sounds fresh and exciting and I feel a warm glow in my lower abdomen when I slowly repeat the word. Recruiting. |

Templar Dane
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.09.16 14:40:00 -
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Goons scamming? Say it aint so.
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