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Hisen Goblin
Goblinworks
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Posted - 2012.07.30 11:53:00 -
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Let me introduce myself, I'm Gevlon, author of http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com, a blog focused on trading and other means of making ISK. Starting as a newbie to EVE less than half year ago, I reached 120B assets. Last month increase: 50B. With proper trading 4-800M/hour is possible.
Now I'm creating a corporation for two purposes. One is to get traders, industrialists and other good PvE players into supercapitals, the other is to finance nullsec sov warfare. Let me explain this part.
People assume that alliances, especially the ones with Tech re dirty rich. The truth is the opposite. Both Goons and TEST keep their booking published, showing that they have 200 and 750B income/month respectively. That looks huge, but half of it goes for upkeeping sov structures. Since they have around 10K pilots, they can spend 200B/2/10000 = 10M and 37M on one pilot. First day newbies have such amount from career agents. The rest of the alliances are even more impoverished due to no tech and can provide practically no support for fleet PvP.
Getting several billions a month isn't hard if someone is skilled in PvE, trading and industry. For such people however upkeeping proper fleet attendance is hard, both because of time issues and simply lack of interest. I would rather mine veld in a Bantham than spend my time in a small gang roam. So the alliances and the industrialist those who could finance them to keep PvP-ers in ships don't meet. Also, industrialist burn out soon since "what can one with 100B do"? Keep gathering wealth, watching the wallet number grow?
Goblinworks is a solution to this problem: this corp is created for those who are good in PvE/industry and ready to provide 1B/month to the ship reimbursement fund of a serious nullsec alliance, vastly increasing their power as they can field serious ships like Maelstroms, Rokhs, Abaddons with carrier support, free for the pilots. In turn, the members are not required to spend their time with PvP (they can if they want to) and have access to structures needed to build themselves supercapital ships.
If you are interested, either as a billionaire or as an alliance leader, please read up the details at http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2012/07/pve-ers-and-traders-must-contribute.html |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
600
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Posted - 2012.07.30 14:49:00 -
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You're either going to be endlessly mocked (I'm sure you'll deride every one of them as "M&S" or "l33ts" who in either case don't "get" it, though not in so few words) or ignored to fade into obscurity. Either has potential to be entertaining, so let me just go ahead and grab my popcorn and a seat with a view...
This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
fofofo |
IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp
Black Thorne Alliance
325
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Posted - 2012.07.30 14:50:00 -
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Lets just see where this goes shall we.
*bump*
'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.
~I fly spaceships~ |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
287
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:03:00 -
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We don't come close to paying half of 750b for sov. 1/10th is probably an overestimate. |
Beogh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:06:00 -
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Hisen Goblin wrote:...as they can field serious ships like Maelstroms, Rokhs, Abaddons with carrier support...
You, ah, seem to have forgotten the Hyperion. Also your plan is dumb, but I prefer small gangs to mining, so what do I know. |
Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
131
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:16:00 -
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I'll most certainly be keeping a close eye on this ambitious endeavour. |
Haquer
Vorkuta Inc
Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:19:00 -
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A++++ would read again |
Roderick Grey
House Of Serenity.
Unprovoked Aggression
22
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:24:00 -
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+1 for interest. |
Trading Unknown
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:25:00 -
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In other news, Gevlon is leaving his post as head of F-22 development. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1092
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:11:00 -
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Have we been destroyed yet?
Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Bakufu Akechi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:12:00 -
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Beogh wrote:Hisen Goblin wrote:...as they can field serious ships like Maelstroms, Rokhs, Abaddons with carrier support... You, ah, seem to have forgotten the Hyperion.
He's Caldari and obviously prejudiced against Gallente. Doesn't consider the Hyperion "serious". Should he?
Anyway, worth a shot. Greedy capitalists for a better tomorrow.
Count me in (this alt, at least). Application sent. |
Bakufu Akechi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:16:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:We don't come close to paying half of 750b for sov. 1/10th is probably an overestimate.
He must be talking about TEST. They are much bigger than you now, you know. |
Khanh'rhh
1645
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:23:00 -
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Sadly it's not even worth the effort-post to tell him why he's so endlessly wrong ... as when you do he just redacts things and acts like they were never there.
See: his supercap only fleet where the titans were fit with multiple warp disruptors (for tackling!)
No, not joking.
He's basically spent every hour available trading (buy low, sell high) and as a result of acting like a bot has decided he is a genius, and will soon take over nullsec.
Get in at the ground level for 1bil a month!
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Khanh'rhh
1645
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:25:00 -
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Also, it will make it 5x more satisfying to AWOX someone in his corp when you know they're paying to be in it.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
271
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:52:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Sadly it's not even worth the effort-post to tell him why he's so endlessly wrong ... as when you do he just redacts things and acts like they were never there.
See: his supercap only fleet where the titans were fit with multiple warp disruptors (for tackling!)
No, not joking.
can't hide from history |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:20:00 -
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hi i would like to join your illustrious space organization
however i have a few questions regarding your venture
1) who the hell is gonna trust you enough to pay you even a token amount of 1b a month
B) a system you wish to conquer has a cynosural jammer deployed -- how does your supercap force deal with this? are subcap pilots also paying you 1b/mo for the privilege of being in your ranks
iii) what are your investment plans once you abscond with the first month's fees |
Jon Lucien
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:30:00 -
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I am interested in helping you accomplish your bold new vision. As you gather new wealthy pilots with supercapitals, I would be glad to provide you with free cynos to our home in VFK. Please do not hesitate to contact me on this fantastic offer. |
Bakufu Akechi
Goblinworks
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:32:00 -
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Members of Goonswarm Federation:
Special limited time offer. Join Goblinworks now!
Just a half-billion security deposit. Half of the One-billion!
Send me the ISK and application and I'll pass it along to our illustrious leader. |
Kirsch Pafftorte
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:52:00 -
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Jon Lucien wrote:I am interested in helping you accomplish your bold new vision. As you gather new wealthy pilots with supercapitals, I would be glad to provide you with free cynos to our home in VFK. Please do not hesitate to contact me on this fantastic offer.
How is this different from the usual pets/renters?
Gevlon is just offering more ISK/member to make call to arms optional. If your renter is paying that much each month, then said renters might have some value. |
Ibrahim Khashanti
Metropolis Risk Management
2
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Posted - 2012.07.30 19:36:00 -
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I too am very interested in contributing to the dream of the Great Goblin. Count me in!! |
Dunan Sanis
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
18
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Posted - 2012.07.30 21:02:00 -
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Posting in an epic thread.
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Carrot Zig
obicham
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Posted - 2012.07.31 00:55:00 -
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Social engineering |
Hisen Goblin
Goblinworks
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:17:00 -
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14 already. That's 60 battleships or 200 Drakes. Join to create and industrial core able to support a standing, reimbursed battleship fleet. |
Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
89
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:36:00 -
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In on page two.
I'll join for a 25b security deposit, to be returned at a later date. |
Khanh'rhh
1647
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Posted - 2012.07.31 09:25:00 -
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Hisen Goblin wrote:14 already
It's quite easy to recruit AWOX alts, to be fair. You just need to make a blog where you insult everyone for being stupid (whilst simultaneously making massive, massive errors) and then post that you have a corp with an open recruitment policy.
Bingo.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Bakufu Akechi
Goblinworks
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:24:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Hisen Goblin wrote:14 already It's quite easy to recruit AWOX alts, to be fair. You just need to make a blog where you insult everyone for being stupid (whilst simultaneously making massive, massive errors) and then post that you have a corp with an open recruitment policy. Bingo.
Actually, I am impressed by how well Gevlin is protecting himself from AWOXers. You can join and spy if you like, but you won't likely be making off with any money from the corp wallet. And for now no fleets to hot drop.
Pretty much judgement-proof. It's just a shell corp for alts at the moment, but with the best seat in the house for the show and free popcorn. |
janiti
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:58:00 -
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beyond parody |
Khanh'rhh
1648
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:28:00 -
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Bakufu Akechi wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Hisen Goblin wrote:14 already It's quite easy to recruit AWOX alts, to be fair. You just need to make a blog where you insult everyone for being stupid (whilst simultaneously making massive, massive errors) and then post that you have a corp with an open recruitment policy. Bingo. Actually, I am impressed by how well Gevlin is protecting himself from AWOXers. You can join and spy if you like, but you won't likely be making off with any money from the corp wallet.
He's not, but keep thinking that.
He has a very limited game knowledge and likes to vastly overplay himself, two things that in EvE set you up for a big fall.
bump, I guess.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
116
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:57:00 -
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"I created an unusual fit for my Buzzard (anyone surprised?), both rigs provide +20% MWD cycle time, so that one cycle of MWD catapult me much closer to the bubble edge." |
Khanh'rhh
1650
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:34:00 -
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Djakku wrote:"I created an unusual fit for my Buzzard (anyone surprised?), both rigs provide +20% MWD cycle time, so that one cycle of MWD catapult me much closer to the bubble edge."
It's not a terrible idea in theory, make them longer so you travel further at MWD speeds under cloak, but like all his ideas, he will theory-craft the answer having never tested any related mechanic and then claim it absolutely will work.
In practice, one cycle of non-lengthened MWD will put you far enough away from your origin to avoid an aimed decloak, so the major risk point is someone being more agile than you; fit for agility not straight line speed / burn time.
On the other hand, my schadenfreude wants to see him at least get established enough to fall hard, and not just cull the venture and have him blog about it being the fault of "morons and slackers."
I'm slightly conflicted.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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