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Nhalour
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Posted - 2010.09.20 21:32:00 -
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Hey all, I'm Nhalour. Hey I'd like to ask all the Eve people for some help. I'm writing a 10,000 word essay on "The Importance of Following Orders" and It's quite impossible for me to think of 10,000 words to say without repeating myself a million times, so here I come for a friendly neighborhood call for help.
To any person that can write me 500 words on The Importance of Following Orders, thats 500 words not counting words with three letters or less. To each person that can get me at least 500 4letter+ words and help me, I will give 1,000,000.00 ISK, that's One million ISK. For 1,000 words 4-letters + you will get 2,000,000.00 ISK, Two Million. Please, I'm begging people to help me. It's due by Wednesday, and I'm busting my ass to get to 4,000 right now. Any help is appreciated =] You will be rewarded. Thank you.
-Nhalour
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.20 21:45:00 -
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You really need to add a couple more zero's to those 'rewards' if you want anyone to take you seriously. 
Also brokering the exchange should be rather interesting in itself. 
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Nhalour
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Posted - 2010.09.20 22:00:00 -
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Not hard, post here, I log in and send isk to the person who posted. Easy, all I gotta do is add contact in game right click and give.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.20 22:18:00 -
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The importance of following orders?
Look up Nuremberg Trials.
Those boys believed in the importance of following orders.
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Nhalour
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Posted - 2010.09.20 22:23:00 -
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That's funny cause I'm actually writing the wikipedia to "Supreme Orders." The entire freaking thing. But my hand is starting to hurt. Gotta have it hand written which is lame, Lol. But thanks for the hint, just one step ahead of you =]
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.20 22:55:00 -
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1. Read The Art of War
2. Filler.
3. ???
4. Profit!
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Fyrewyre
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Posted - 2010.09.20 23:26:00 -
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1. 10,000 word essay.
2. How on earth can you repeat yourself a million times?
3. Do your own home work.
4. Listen to the tutor (and given due date)
5. Follow the orders (see step 4)
6. ?????
7. profit?
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.20 23:29:00 -
[8]
 Originally by: Atticus Fynch
The importance of following orders?
Look up Nuremberg Trials.
Those boys believed in the importance of following orders.
As do the boys at Gitmo, the winning side decide what was right.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.21 00:17:00 -
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You were told to write a 10,000 word essay on following orders? well you damn well better write 10000 words on the subject, even if you have to repeat yourself a thousand times 
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.21 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
You were told to write a 10,000 word essay on following orders? well you damn well better write 10000 words on the subject, even if you have to repeat yourself a thousand times
Or you write a shorter piece on why it's important for man to disobey orders at times, this time to prove a point, others for ethical reasons or whatnot.
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Rising Expectations
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Posted - 2010.09.21 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Rising Expectations on 21/09/2010 02:32:11
Originally by: Nhalour
That's funny cause I'm actually writing the wikipedia to "Supreme Orders." The entire freaking thing. But my hand is starting to hurt. Gotta have it hand written which is lame, Lol.
You mean copying the wikipedia article word for word in your essay? Won't it be a tiny bit obvious to the reader that there is a slight discrepancy with your usual writting style? Hope they have nothing against plagarisism at your institution...
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.21 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Lance Fighter
You were told to write a 10,000 word essay on following orders? well you damn well better write 10000 words on the subject, even if you have to repeat yourself a thousand times
Or you write a shorter piece on why it's important for man to disobey orders at times, this time to prove a point, others for ethical reasons or whatnot.
eh sure, if you feel like getting kicked out of the corps...
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.09.21 04:06:00 -
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Why not be honest and hold your hand up to not being able to finish the job... rather than palm off other folks' work as your own?
Just a thought.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.09.21 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nhalour
Hey all, I'm Nhalour. Hey I'd like to ask all the Eve people for some help. I'm writing a 10,000 word essay on "The Importance of Following Orders" and It's quite impossible for me to think of 10,000 words to say without repeating myself a million times, so here I come for a friendly neighborhood call for help.
To any person that can write me 500 words on The Importance of Following Orders, thats 500 words not counting words with three letters or less. To each person that can get me at least 500 4letter+ words and help me, I will give 1,000,000.00 ISK, that's One million ISK. For 1,000 words 4-letters + you will get 2,000,000.00 ISK, Two Million. Please, I'm begging people to help me. It's due by Wednesday, and I'm busting my ass to get to 4,000 right now. Any help is appreciated =] You will be rewarded. Thank you.
-Nhalour
For a reference on the subject matter I would strongly suggest you look at the transcripts of the Nuremberg Trials.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.21 06:40:00 -
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If we don't follow an order, GH sticks us in burlap sacks and hits us with bamboo
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William Walker
Amarr
House Celtae
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Posted - 2010.09.21 07:47:00 -
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Write me in EVE, 250 million ISK and I will do this for you bro. Yes, by tomorrow. No scam lol I love writing. You can (and should use) a third party.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Amicus Morte
Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.09.21 12:30:00 -
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"Befehl ist Befehl"
Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this!
Clear Skies - The Movie
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.21 12:32:00 -
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you cannot sell RL items for isk
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Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nhalour
Hey all, I'm Nhalour. Hey I'd like to ask all the Eve people for some help. I'm writing a 10,000 word essay on "The Importance of Following Orders" and It's quite impossible for me to think of 10,000 words to say without repeating myself a million times, so here I come for a friendly neighborhood call for help.
To any person that can write me 500 words on The Importance of Following Orders, thats 500 words not counting words with three letters or less. To each person that can get me at least 500 4letter+ words and help me, I will give 1,000,000.00 ISK, that's One million ISK. For 1,000 words 4-letters + you will get 2,000,000.00 ISK, Two Million. Please, I'm begging people to help me. It's due by Wednesday, and I'm busting my ass to get to 4,000 right now. Any help is appreciated =] You will be rewarded. Thank you.
-Nhalour
I am gonna be non helpful and say: its not important to follow orders. Not really. If you find yourself in any kind of military institution you are doing it wrong, get out, and enjoy life; stop killing, you ****er. :)
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Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Nhalour
-Nhalour
I am gonna be non helpful [...] stop killing, you ****er. :)
Haha yes everyone who joins the military is a cold-blooded murderer. Such a silly troll. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 21/09/2010 13:49:18
Originally by: Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Nhalour
-Nhalour
I am gonna be non helpful [...] stop killing, you ****er. :)
Haha yes everyone who joins the military is a cold-blooded murderer. Such a silly troll.
Well, yes.
They are hired guns. at least now a days, in the western world.
Why is it ok to kill under the flag of the military, but you serve a life sentance ouside it? Have we not matured enough to understand killing never really solves anything?
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Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Well, yes.
They are hired guns. at least now a days, in the western world.
Why is it ok to kill under the flag of the military, but you serve a life sentence ouside it? Have we not matured enough to understand killing never really solves anything?
Not everyone in the military kills people. Look at the German, French, Spanish armies. They are helping out in the nations that the US are invading and the US soldiers are just protecting themselves from people shooting at them. If someone shot at you with a gun, what would you do?
Not everyone on this planet is peaceful, it hasn't been peaceful at all in the entire history of man and so there are standing armies that are here to protect the innocent and weak from those who attempt to hurt them.
I applaud your pacifist approach, but a realistic approach would be better and insulting people for their occupation is counter-productive. |
Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:07:00 -
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Try writing a section on the importance of not following orders/consequences of not thinking/when not to follow orders + ethics section etc
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Well, yes.
They are hired guns. at least now a days, in the western world.
Why is it ok to kill under the flag of the military, but you serve a life sentence ouside it? Have we not matured enough to understand killing never really solves anything?
Not everyone in the military kills people. Look at the German, French, Spanish armies. They are helping out in the nations that the US are invading and the US soldiers are just protecting themselves from people shooting at them.
Of course they are protecting themself, I would too. But I am not invading other people countries ;)
Originally by: Zarflax Zeeblebrox
If someone shot at you with a gun, what would you do?
Not everyone on this planet is peaceful, it hasn't been peaceful at all in the entire history of man and so there are standing armies that are here to protect the innocent and weak from those who attempt to hurt them.
I applaud your pacifist approach, but a realistic approach would be better and insulting people for their occupation is counter-productive.
Having defences is one thing, and helping is good. But sending amries to other nations in the name of defence is not right, there is not need for it. Its a waste of resources and life. Only by going above such action, and promoting peace and leading by example can we really hope to achive any long term results :)
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Zenkai
Gallente
TOASTED Corp
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:41:00 -
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It's not important to follow orders it's important to follow LAWFUL ORDERS.
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Zenkai
Gallente
TOASTED Corp
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 21/09/2010 13:49:18
Originally by: Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Nhalour
-Nhalour
I am gonna be non helpful [...] stop killing, you ****er. :)
Haha yes everyone who joins the military is a cold-blooded murderer. Such a silly troll.
Well, yes.
They are hired guns. at least now a days, in the western world.
Why is it ok to kill under the flag of the military, but you serve a life sentance ouside it? Have we not matured enough to understand killing never really solves anything?
I think killing solves things quite nicely:
"Hey stop doing that!"
"F*** YOU..." *BAM*
"Problem solved" 
The use of force to move others to your will can always be justifed provided your cause is great enough.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.21 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Originally by: Nhalour
Hey all, I'm Nhalour. Hey I'd like to ask all the Eve people for some help. I'm writing a 10,000 word essay on "The Importance of Following Orders" and It's quite impossible for me to think of 10,000 words to say without repeating myself a million times, so here I come for a friendly neighborhood call for help.
To any person that can write me 500 words on The Importance of Following Orders, thats 500 words not counting words with three letters or less. To each person that can get me at least 500 4letter+ words and help me, I will give 1,000,000.00 ISK, that's One million ISK. For 1,000 words 4-letters + you will get 2,000,000.00 ISK, Two Million. Please, I'm begging people to help me. It's due by Wednesday, and I'm busting my ass to get to 4,000 right now. Any help is appreciated =] You will be rewarded. Thank you.
-Nhalour
For a reference on the subject matter I would strongly suggest you look at the transcripts of the Nuremberg Trials.
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Indimiel
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Posted - 2010.09.21 16:07:00 -
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Yeah, following orders isn't just a military thing.
I have worked as a bouncer for 7 years. When I have a team of 8 to manage 900 irish drunks night after night without getting anyone injured it's pretty important for me to know that the orders will be executed precisely and efficiently.
The corporate structure is equally filled with orders and commands, making sure that companies with thousand of employees manage to act in accordance with the decisions of the board.
For it to be correct to act against orders one has to know all the reasons for them, and be able to logically reject them, and in a lot of situations it is inefficient to have everyone involved know everything.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.21 16:21:00 -
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The soldier at the bottom of the barrel should know they are expendable and will be sold out as much in military tribunals as they're casually sent to their deaths in the field.
A little Tennyson for you; 'Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do and die'
A pawn is a pawn.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.21 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Well, yes.
They are hired guns. at least now a days, in the western world.
Why is it ok to kill under the flag of the military, but you serve a life sentence ouside it? Have we not matured enough to understand killing never really solves anything?
Not everyone in the military kills people. Look at the German, French, Spanish armies. They are helping out in the nations that the US are invading and the US soldiers are just protecting themselves from people shooting at them. If someone shot at you with a gun, what would you do?
Not everyone on this planet is peaceful, it hasn't been peaceful at all in the entire history of man and so there are standing armies that are here to protect the innocent and weak from those who attempt to hurt them.
I applaud your pacifist approach, but a realistic approach would be better and insulting people for their occupation is counter-productive.
lolwut. France still has an army?
Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it?
Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Cikulisuy
Amarr
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 16:30:00 -
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there is no importance to following orders.
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Barakkus
Ishukone Institute of Technology
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:49:00 -
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Write about what got you the punishment to write an essay on following orders. I'm sure whatever you did that got you this essay will fill up 10,000 words.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:36:00 -
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So that you don't find yourself nipping down the shop just before the courier arrives. Always try and order from reputable companies that use a reliable courier company with an efficient tracking system. This can take a lot of the hard work out of following orders. The very best companies may even text you 5 or 10 minutes before your order arrives. This can save any number of unfortunate situations. If you haven't been diligently following your orders, and you are dealing with one of the less professional companies, an unexpected ring of the door bell could cause anything from mild anxiety to abject terror. It is a well known fact in the hard core order following community that the most famous how-to internet movie of recent years, "One Man One Jar" only ended up taking it's final form because of a less than diligently followed order. If you listen carefully at 0.21 minutes in the movie, you can hear 3 faint rapid knocks of an unexpected order at the door, causing the presenter to momentarily tense up. Of course, the world would be a less beautiful place if that order hadn't happened to arrive at that particular time (shamefully unfollowed), but that is not really the point. Who knows what disaster could have happened because one man did not follow that order.
Holy Orders could be a whole different essay on their own, but as a footnote it should be added that Holy orders should be followed diligently and unceasingly, especially around schools and playgrounds.
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.23 00:19:00 -
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I'm a 22 year USAF veteran, and History Major with a Master's degree.
I suggest the knuckle dragging morons that so enjoy bashing the U.S. and/or the west in general look up "The Milgram Experiment"
If you can find the original film, we all want to be the guy that says "Yes I do have a choice!" when told he has no choice. But a lot people aint him. Having said that, having seem the world, and especially comparing Universities to the military, the guy who insists he DOES have a choice is more common in the military.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.09.23 01:20:00 -
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The current military history magazine has an article on a German General who was executed for following the orders of the leader of the NSDAP to execute all commandos.
The thing is - it was the General who was executed while the people who actually carried out his order were witnesses against him.
The fact that their officers had pleaded with the General not to carry out this order may have had something to do with that.
In any case - they didn't shoot everyone who followed orders - just the guy who gave them.
As to who can obey orders and who can disobey orders - a lot of that depends on where you are in the chain of command. If you're down at the bottom - you pretty much do as you're told - but - if you're an officer - then you're allowed more discretion. Most military's want their enlisted men to simply do as they're told but - they want their officers to think about things and if there is something wrong with an order - to at least bring it to the attention of the person who gave it. If you can't get in touch with that person in a timely manner - then - as an officer - you are often allowed to use your own judgment as to whether to carry out an order or not. You just need to be right about it and do so knowing that you could get in trouble - but - that is actually part of your job - to know which orders to obey and which not to obey.
There's an instance where one of Frederick the Great's Generals refused to obey him saying something like "Tomorrow, your Majesty, my head will be at your disposal - but today - I intend to use it in your service."
Even as an enlisted man - you can get away with questioning an order or outright disobeying it - but you'd really better be right ... here ... being right means ... the person who gave you the order agrees with you when they find out that you didn't do what they told you to do. In some instances - where they have really made a mistake - and you have saved their ass by NOT doing what they told you to do - they will be very grateful - realizing the chance you took on their behalf. Other times - they'll put your ass in jail ...
Most of these instances of disobeying an order and getting away with it - occur where the person who gave the order is out of contact and can't be informed that there are reasons for the order to be disobeyed. If that person is standing right there - and you refuse their order ... you are probably in very big trouble.
Ha! Ha! Just thought of this ...
Little Bees
Ha! Ha!
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.09.23 02:19:00 -
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Allow me to channel 'Thank You For Smoking' if I may:
Joey: Dad, why is the American government the best government?
Nick Naylor{drowsy}: Because of our endless appeals system.
Joey: Dad, come on. I have to give an oral report on why the American government is the best government.
Nick Naylor: Joey, that is a bull**** report. There is no best government. There is no measure by which we determine which government is the best. The American government may be the most entertaining, but it is not the best.
Bolded the important part.
The assignment is juvenile and the topic is overly simplistic. In short, it is a bull**** report.
The real lesson to learn here is how much of real life assignments (and orders) are absolute bull****.
The reports given as response to these assignments are also bull**** (often the actions that result from orders are bull****).
If you can't write 10,000 words of bull**** slanted towards whatever it is you think your teacher wants to hear, you need to realize school isn't for you. It may be time to cut your losses and start training for a fulfilling career in custodial management.
...seeing as how this was due today, how did you fair?
Did you play the fool and pull your brains out trying to write some epic work?
Or did you do like all the A students do and just write 1,000 words the teacher wants to hear?
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Taedrin
Gallente
White Haven Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.23 02:44:00 -
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Generally, when you are assigned to write an essay, you are given certain materials with which to base your essay off of. I would suggest that the next time you are assigned an essay, you read the materials ahead of time and then use that to write your essay.
If I were given an essay to write about the importance of following orders, I would split it up into three parts (if there were no rubric to follow):
The importance of following orders
The importance of NOT following orders
The importance of determining when to follow orders, and when to disobey them
And cite historical and hypothetical events to support my argument.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.23 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
If you can't write 10,000 words of bull**** slanted towards whatever it is you think your teacher wants to hear, you need to realize school isn't for you. It may be time to cut your losses and start training for a fulfilling career in custodial management.
Although this may be a bit harsh, this may be true if I did not feel it is a troll. The OP did not follow orders himself, then comes here and asks how to get 10,000 words out of a topic that he should have been familiar with from his class, and could actually write a good portion about the importance of following orders just based on their experience with this thread .
Also what is up with having to write it by hand. This screams troll in my book.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.09.23 15:45:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
If you can't write 10,000 words of bull**** slanted towards whatever it is you think your teacher wants to hear, you need to realize school isn't for you. It may be time to cut your losses and start training for a fulfilling career in custodial management.
Although this may be a bit harsh, this may be true if I did not feel it is a troll. The OP did not follow orders himself, then comes here and asks how to get 10,000 words out of a topic that he should have been familiar with from his class, and could actually write a good portion about the importance of following orders just based on their experience with this thread .
Also what is up with having to write it by hand. This screams troll in my book.
Slade
Yeah ... it probably was a troll. The EVE Forums are full of them.
The thing that the trolls really don't get - is that while they are sitting there chuckling at how many peoples time they've wasted ... well ... if we were responding to a troll ... we probably didn't have anything better to do with that time anyway ... and a lot of us like to pontificate on things of minimal importance (so we can remind ourselves how smart we are (though nobody else is fooled)). Thus, the whole exercise is entertaining all around.
*shrug*
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