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Wu Jiaqiu Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:01:00 - [1] Like the title states, what RP reason would having loads of a-bombs as ammo?
Sabbott Amarr Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:29:00 - [2] I think their a more active version of depleted uranium. different explosive quality's.. don't think they are the same as a "bomb" as you refer too... Join 'Sani Sabik' channel /// Book of Virtues
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.	Posted - 2010.09.20 23:07:00 - [3] Er, we do have them-- as bullets, even. Nuclear S Also, both one of the smallest and one of the largest missile-type munitions are explicitly nuclear. Piranha Light Missile Bane Torp Gotta keep in mind that by our standards the weapons in Eve are insanely destructive. Blasters routinely fire antimatter plasma bolts. Also, a nuke is a bit less effective with no atmosphere to produce a shockwave in. Well, that and Eve is very much "soft" sci-fi.
Myxx Gallente Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing	Posted - 2010.09.21 03:18:00 - [4] this belongs in fiction. -- My opinion is my own and nothing but my own. Before putting words in my mouth, it might help to ask for clarification if you are confused.
Ikarus Gaul Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.09.21 03:50:00 - [5] There are games being held using live munitions, aside from the tournaments? Must be a null security space phenomenon. Certainly that sort of thing is very rare in the Federation... combat is deadly serious business, and no game. á How many humans will CONCORD allow Master Kuvakei and his True Slaves to abduct? How many is too many? Too many have already been lost! 20M citizens on countless planets!

CCP Jericho	Posted - 2010.09.21 07:55:00 - [6] Moved from Intergalactic Summit.

Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.09.21 09:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Also, a nuke is a bit less effective with no atmosphere to produce a shockwave in. That's why we want the possibility to nuke the planetary colonies from orbit. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.21 10:05:00 - [8] On the one hand, it's fairly ineffective unless you score a direct hit, but it still releases a ton of crap that will mess with your own system, and on the other, it's complete overkill for what you want to do. All you need to do is punch a large hole in the other guy's hull ù a high-velocity volkswagon or a kinetic penetrator moving at relativistic speeds will do that just nicely without the hassle of bombarding yourself with hard radiation in the process. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:03:00 - [9] Edited by: Skippermonkey on 21/09/2010 11:04:32 Which is why Kinetic boosted Caldari boats are win? .... rite? doesnt that mean that 'well circulated' hello kitty kestrel is actually a destroyer of worlds? Originally by: CCP Capslock OH GOD THE TESTING
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Skippermonkey Which is why Kinetic boosted Caldari boats are win? I've made a pledge to myself that I will not EVER, under any circumstances, be persuaded to estimate the muzzle velocity of an EVE railgun. It is in theory possible - we know their length and calibre, we know they're made using superconductors (meaning we know the approximate resistivity of the coils), we know how much power they draw when firing, we can estimate the volume of the shells and we can estimate their mass. That's enough information, if you know the right equations, to figure out the approximate muzzle velocity of any of the railgun sizes in the game. Not being a doctor of physics, I don't personally know those equations, but there's this amazing thing called the Internet out there... Anybody who is that genuinely nerdy to actually want to go ahead and do this, however, REALLY needs to get out more. go fishing with your dad, go out drinking with your best mates, take your dog walkies, that kind of thing. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Skippermonkey Which is why Kinetic boosted Caldari boats are win? I've made a pledge to myself that I will not EVER, under any circumstances, be persuaded to estimate the muzzle velocity of an EVE railgun. It is in theory possible - we know their length and calibre, we know they're made using superconductors (meaning we know the approximate resistivity of the coils), we know how much power they draw when firing, we can estimate the volume of the shells and we can estimate their mass. That's enough information, if you know the right equations, to figure out the approximate muzzle velocity of any of the railgun sizes in the game. Not being a doctor of physics, I don't personally know those equations, but there's this amazing thing called the Internet out there... Anybody who is that genuinely nerdy to actually want to go ahead and do this, however, REALLY needs to get out more. go fishing with your dad, go out drinking with your best mates, take your dog walkies, that kind of thing. Sounds like your EXTREMELY tempted to be that nerdy
Wu Jiaqiu Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.09.21 11:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Er, we do have them-- as bullets, even. Nuclear S Also, both one of the smallest and one of the largest missile-type munitions are explicitly nuclear. Piranha Light Missile Bane Torp Gotta keep in mind that by our standards the weapons in Eve are insanely destructive. Blasters routinely fire antimatter plasma bolts. Also, a nuke is a bit less effective with no atmosphere to produce a shockwave in. Well, that and Eve is very much "soft" sci-fi. No I dont mean those.. I mean like the Tzar bomb, big mushroom cloud and stuff. I wanna shoot someone with one of those and make their babies grow with 5 arms and malformed heads. Its just like BAM! PERMANANT DISFIGUREMENT.
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.21 13:31:00 - [13] Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 21/09/2010 13:33:46 Originally by: Wu Jiaqiu Originally by: Aria Jenneth Er, we do have them-- as bullets, even. Nuclear S Also, both one of the smallest and one of the largest missile-type munitions are explicitly nuclear. Piranha Light Missile Bane Torp Gotta keep in mind that by our standards the weapons in Eve are insanely destructive. Blasters routinely fire antimatter plasma bolts. Also, a nuke is a bit less effective with no atmosphere to produce a shockwave in. Well, that and Eve is very much "soft" sci-fi. No I dont mean those.. I mean like the Tzar bomb, big mushroom cloud and stuff. I wanna shoot someone with one of those and make their babies grow with 5 arms and malformed heads. Its just like BAM! PERMANANT DISFIGUREMENT. Somebody hasn't seen a bane torpedo explode. PS - Mushroom cloud requires gravity. ------ 0800-LAG-A-NODE
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.21 13:34:00 - [14] àalso, there wouldn't be a mushroom cloud ù just a very brief flash, and then your sperms would have four tails. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.09.21 13:40:00 - [15] Nukes are so 1940. I'd like to know why we don't have bombs akin to supernovae. Set one off in a system and take out all stations and ships, even planets. It just makes sense we'd have weaponry like that the way military minds work. None of this teamwork nonsense. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.21 14:37:00 - [16] Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 21/09/2010 14:39:38 Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/09/2010 13:51:30 Nukes are so 1940. I'd like to know why we don't have bombs akin to supernovae. Set one off in a system and take out all stations and ships, even planets. It just makes sense we'd have weaponry like that the way military minds work. Isogen-5? If you don't trust me, ask survivors from Seyllin I... if you can find any.
Boltorano Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:40:00 - [17] Edited by: Boltorano on 21/09/2010 15:40:40 Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 21/09/2010 14:39:38 Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/09/2010 13:51:30 Nukes are so 1940. I'd like to know why we don't have bombs akin to supernovae. Set one off in a system and take out all stations and ships, even planets. It just makes sense we'd have weaponry like that the way military minds work. Isogen-5? If you don't trust me, ask survivors from Seyllin I... if you can find any. Technically, that could be considered more of a coronal mass ejection weapon than a supernova weapon.
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:43:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Jericho Moved from Intergalactic Summit. Nice one. From one wrong board to another. It's a question about EVE fiction - don't you think it should perhaps go in the section dedicated to EVE fiction, the section which is indeed named EVE Fiction? I know you're new, but it's not rocket science. Sorry for discussing your moderation.
Jacob Holland Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries	Posted - 2010.09.21 15:56:00 - [19] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/09/2010 13:51:30 Nukes are so 1940. I'd like to know why we don't have bombs akin to supernovae. Set one off in a system and take out all stations and ships, even planets. It just makes sense we'd have weaponry like that the way military minds work. Big Badda Boom Only the Jove have ever (as a matter of record or significant speculation) built a weapon capable of destroying a planet... One reason may be the vast amounts of energy required to do so, another the simple fact that if you destroy a planet then you can less easily exploit it. The super weapons have their place in lore and the reasons they stay there are manifold. You may be able to nuke a site from orbit in the nearish future (it's the only way to be sure) but why bother when you can take the site with infantry? -- Originally by: cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Skippermonkey Which is why Kinetic boosted Caldari boats are win? I've made a pledge to myself that I will not EVER, under any circumstances, be persuaded to estimate the muzzle velocity of an EVE railgun. It is in theory possible - we know their length and calibre, we know they're made using superconductors (meaning we know the approximate resistivity of the coils), we know how much power they draw when firing, we can estimate the volume of the shells and we can estimate their mass. That's enough information, if you know the right equations, to figure out the approximate muzzle velocity of any of the railgun sizes in the game. Not being a doctor of physics, I don't personally know those equations, but there's this amazing thing called the Internet out there... using the internet thingy i did talk to a guy who designed arty pieces for the us military. making some really optimistic assumptions to allow for tech advances etc his best guess is that a 1400 mm arty is only slightly larger than the min battleship which in theory has 8 arties attached to it. nor would a cruise missile moving at 7 km per sec relying on simple kinetic impact going to be anything like as effective as a stream of antimatter. eve science will just make your hair bleed if you think about it too much or even at all.
Dred Control	Posted - 2010.09.21 18:06:00 - [21] Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.09.21 18:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Wu Jiaqiu No I dont mean those.. I mean like the Tzar bomb, big mushroom cloud and stuff. I wanna shoot someone with one of those and make their babies grow with 5 arms and malformed heads. Its just like BAM! PERMANANT DISFIGUREMENT. With the way EVE UI works right now, having five arms would actually be quite useful. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real!
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2010.09.22 07:55:00 - [23] On one hand the planet destroyer is already there: gravity. Stop the movement of a moon and let it fall onto the planet surface - wham - 6000¦C for at least some tenthousand years of the whole surface. Happend to earth I think eight times. SINCE LIFE EXISTS. Means life survives inside salt crystals deep below the earth in fragments of DNA and pre-cellular structures. For you don't need a moon to destroy a planet. You need nothing more than a large asteroid. I think some of the big babies in the belts would be enough to destroy life and the quarterly report of some major insurance companies. Who are therefore those who will try protect earth from things like that most. An other thing is the five arm offspring due to radiation. While fun to view in Futurama mutations do not work like that. It's not that your DNA gets broken and your sperms get five tails. It's about the growing up of the fetus. The conditions during this process must be very clearly defined that something so wierd constructed like the DNA can produce a human being by the end of the process. If something is disturbing this process mutations will happen. For example we (humans) have a fraction of the DNA of a frog. Why that? Because the growing process of a simple frog can deal with a lot of change in it's surrounding environment. Acid factor of the water, temperature change, light, oxygen in water and so on. To compensate this the DNA has included a lot of thinkable possibilities inside the DNA to produce under many of the surrounding cirumstances a frog. We mammals have less DNA because we grow up in a very defined surrounding. Inside our mother. Disturb this just a little bit and you will get something unpredictable. And this does not mean that your DNA is broken. It just means that your process of growing up was happening outside the defined parameters. And radiation is such a thing. A heavy thing. The bad thing about radiation is, that once injected into a human (mother) it will be given over to her offspring and so on. And radiation will hold on for a very long time. Over generations and generations. The radiation like isotope 137 of caesium have a a halve time of about 32 years, caesium 135 2.3 million years. While the one will be halve as strong polluting the next generation, the other will survive in time spans that can easily compared with the time humankind exists. There is of cause a possibility that DNA strains will be broken by hard radiation. But it is not very plausible that of those broken DNA strains anything grows that can live on. The one thing is the radiation "burning" that is so hard that cells die. If you get your sperms neutralized by that they won't work anymore. They are dead. Radiation burning is like burning you know. Just that it is going inside and it's working without heating the flesh up. It's different than let's say a microwave. Those electric fields (electric fields!) are completely different. They swing on the same frequency as water molecules and heat up water. And the water is heating up the stuff around that. Radiation burning is high energy particle burning. And most people who were exposed die of this burning, not because their DNA is broken. So if you get nuked and you don't die in the first flash nor of the burning of your cells in the next few weeks, cells that might be harmed will die. Cancer is the reaction of the body -in most cases- to stuff inside your system that doesn't belong there. That's the case if you got radiactive substances inside. Or other cacerands, which our world is full of due to the great plastic world around us. That and beauty articles. And the reaction to cacerands will take some time. Hard radiation can cause leukomia. For if your bone mark gets destroyed by that - no leucocytes. A bonemark transplantation can cure this. Bonemark is a kind of "organ" by that means. So much about radiation and genetics in short. Sorry for me taking some shortcuts. Only got 3995 chars. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Fafnir Drake Gallente Boob Heads	Posted - 2010.09.22 08:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Wu Jiaqiu Originally by: Aria Jenneth Er, we do have them-- as bullets, even. Nuclear S Also, both one of the smallest and one of the largest missile-type munitions are explicitly nuclear. Piranha Light Missile Bane Torp Gotta keep in mind that by our standards the weapons in Eve are insanely destructive. Blasters routinely fire antimatter plasma bolts. Also, a nuke is a bit less effective with no atmosphere to produce a shockwave in. Well, that and Eve is very much "soft" sci-fi. No I dont mean those.. I mean like the Tzar bomb, big mushroom cloud and stuff. I wanna shoot someone with one of those and make their babies grow with 5 arms and malformed heads. Its just like BAM! PERMANANT DISFIGUREMENT. Tsar Bomba was actually quite clean. But yah, as one guy said. By normal standards, EVE's scale is huge. Our smallest ships are the size of airliners. Our slower ships are faster than most commercial jets. We have modules that use more energy than a city. etc etc ------ "Tell a man there are 300 billion stars in the universe and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint on it and he'll have to touch to be sure."

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